DA soccer terminating boys and girls? “Rumors”

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Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


Why do they need to both come in? Bethesda's boys are not in. VDA's did not until recently. It's a reflection of both the ECNL's arrogance to demand both and the relative weakness of the boys side. Just more nonsense if true. Who needs that crap.


Boys ECNL is not to the level of the girls. If they can force Arlington to bring their boys that would certainly improve it. In the past they did not have the leverage that they have now. Is it for certain that Bethesda boys are not joining ECNL? Does anyone know what their plans are?


All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.
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I think Bethesda plans to join the MLS-led league for the boys, or look at a new league within EDP, similar to the club v club league they use for the Blue teams (but perhaps amped a bit with more ex-DA players in it).
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


Why do they need to both come in? Bethesda's boys are not in. VDA's did not until recently. It's a reflection of both the ECNL's arrogance to demand both and the relative weakness of the boys side. Just more nonsense if true. Who needs that crap.


Boys ECNL is not to the level of the girls. If they can force Arlington to bring their boys that would certainly improve it. In the past they did not have the leverage that they have now. Is it for certain that Bethesda boys are not joining ECNL? Does anyone know what their plans are?


All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


High school age kids cannot have an aligned season between VA and MD because of High School soccer

Understand this.
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


It won’t be either.
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


I'm told ECNL and DA travel are the same. Or I guess "were the same". DA went north for 2 weekends a season and ECNL goes south for 2 weekends a season. Where will you go? What are you hoping happens?
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


I'm told ECNL and DA travel are the same. Or I guess "were the same". DA went north for 2 weekends a season and ECNL goes south for 2 weekends a season. Where will you go? What are you hoping happens?


In the boys future discussion thread someone mentioned the average boys ECNL game is 280 miles away. DA travel isn't that bad in comparison.
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


Same here, with concerns about ECNL competition level. EDP seems a better option.
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


Same here, with concerns about ECNL competition level. EDP seems a better option.

Which is perfectly logical. ECNL gives you more access to a national league, playing in our region, then playoffs against the top teams in other regions with lots of college attention. Girls side already established. Boys side would be pulled up to this quickly and become a top recruiting league (I would think) for semi-pro, pro academies for MLS. EDP is a decent league in an area, but so is CCL, ODSL, etc etc. All local leagues if you don’t want to travel much.
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What about the letter from US Youth Soccer? Any ideas what it means?

https://www.usyouthsoccer.org/assets/1/20/usys_announcement_041520.pdf?28299
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Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


Why do they need to both come in? Bethesda's boys are not in. VDA's did not until recently. It's a reflection of both the ECNL's arrogance to demand both and the relative weakness of the boys side. Just more nonsense if true. Who needs that crap.


Boys ECNL is not to the level of the girls. If they can force Arlington to bring their boys that would certainly improve it. In the past they did not have the leverage that they have now. Is it for certain that Bethesda boys are not joining ECNL? Does anyone know what their plans are?


All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


High school age kids cannot have an aligned season between VA and MD because of High School soccer

Understand this.


I don't think this affects anything we just said. Boys from these clubs are playing all year, whether in MD or VA
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All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


FWIW as an Arlington boys DA parent, we'd leave if either ECNL (due to travel) or CCL (due to competition level).


Same here, with concerns about ECNL competition level. EDP seems a better option.

Which is perfectly logical. ECNL gives you more access to a national league, playing in our region, then playoffs against the top teams in other regions with lots of college attention. Girls side already established. Boys side would be pulled up to this quickly and become a top recruiting league (I would think) for semi-pro, pro academies for MLS. EDP is a decent league in an area, but so is CCL, ODSL, etc etc. All local leagues if you don’t want to travel much.


FWIW I think in 2 years boys ECNL will be much better. Good teams are signing up. If you have an older boy EDP might be better for now but if you have a younger one I think ECNL will end up being better. Currently most EDP teams are Maryland and up north and have a different HS season. You probably never considered HS soccer because you have been brainwashed by the DA that it's a waste but I think you will be surprised at how many boys are going to consider doing it now that it is no longer forbidden.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


This is not true. You all are crazy and spreading rumors.


Sure the boys u12 pre da(the boys top team at Arlington) is in the EDP. They move the boys to EDP make sure they got competitive games. The girls u12 top team plays the CCL with maybe one or two competitive games a season. Guess the girls did not need competitive games.
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Anonymous wrote:Is it true Arlington Girls got rejected by ECNL yesterday?


Yeah, a parent was on earlier and said they had been told they were rejected. My guess is that with 4 NOVA ECNL clubs that one or more of them blocked adding a 5th.


Heard Arlington told they have to bring both boys and girls if they want ECNL. They don’t want to bring boys. Guess they will sacrifice girls so boys can play in yet another league that will fail in 3 years.


Yep Arlington really does not put the same importance on the girls side. Think Arlington is toast. Mclean will be very happy. It will be rough for any girls living close in. Though ECNL is not really concerned about accessibility or urban participation.


Why do they need to both come in? Bethesda's boys are not in. VDA's did not until recently. It's a reflection of both the ECNL's arrogance to demand both and the relative weakness of the boys side. Just more nonsense if true. Who needs that crap.


Boys ECNL is not to the level of the girls. If they can force Arlington to bring their boys that would certainly improve it. In the past they did not have the leverage that they have now. Is it for certain that Bethesda boys are not joining ECNL? Does anyone know what their plans are?


All good questions, but as a general matter, boys in DAs do not have the family time and money to spend to play ECNL with heavy travel, or at least there is less of it than on the girls side. So it is entirely possible they will lose top players if they do this. Of course, if there are more ECNL mid-atlantic teams, this matters less. But then the question is why boys want to sign up for a North Carolina plus Virginia version of the CCL with plenty of uneven competition when there is a ton of potential competition right in Maryland, DC and NOVA.


High school age kids cannot have an aligned season between VA and MD because of High School soccer

Understand this.


I don't think this affects anything we just said. Boys from these clubs are playing all year, whether in MD or VA


DA struggled with enforcing no HS. There will be no HS Age combined seasons between MD and VA.
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