Lebanon / Israel

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Per the AP,

We are sending 3000 troops to the region in expectation that fighting will worsen…


Seems like this is tracking into A full scale war.

Where is Biden/Harris on this? Maybe we should ask Jill for help.

Where are Biden and Harris? Is that serious question? They are the ones sending US troops to the Middle East right now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

Yep, lovely Iran gives Hezbollah $700 million a year.

That’s how Hezbollah became the world’s most well-armed non-state group.

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Anonymous wrote:Israel now has clearly moved beyond “precision targeting”. Civilians - who posed no imminent threat to Israel - are being killed.

While many here don’t seem to care about Palestinian lives….will you care about Lebanese or do you want to make multi generational enemies of that country too?

8,000 Hezbollah rockets launched into Israel.

You want Israel to do nothing.

How many artillery shells, air strikes, and electronic devices did the Israeli use in Lebanon. The Lebanese have a right to defend themselves.

Ok. So here’s what happened:

Hamas attacked on Oct 7.

Hezbollah launched rockets on Oct 8.

Can Israel defend itself?

you are very conveniently leaving out 100 years of history that predates 10/7

The course of action with the least risk of life lost is for Israel to declare a ceasefire in Gaza. Hezbollah has always said they iull stop firing into Israel when there is a ceasefire.

Ah yes. Because before 10/7, Hezbollah was a peace loving bunch of hippies.

No, they are trying through their actions to get Israel to recognize international law and leave occupied territory, too.

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

Wow. An apologist for Hezbollah. Never thought I’d see it.

Hezbollah is an Iran proxy group. They are doing Iran’s bidding and are pursuing Iran’s strategic goal, which is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Hamas is the same thing.

I’m not supportive of any of these groups. I fully condemn them all. But I’m not binary (like you, apparently), so there are degrees of contempt across the board. And unlike you, I don’t give any of them a pass because of the sins of their neighbors, including Israel.

Now that that’s settled, since I dictate what I do and don’t support, not you … let’s get you on the record right now with what you stand for, and we can start with you answering the simple question below (2nd attempt).

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

That's a very weasel answer to anything. And very pathetic. Either/Or. Both sides. Whataboutism.

And you dictate your little whateveresim.

Not the previous poster. But...

Do you have a problem with either the Hezbollah or Hamas charter?

You should read it.

If I were Israeli, I would 100 percent be for the destruction of Hezbollah and Hamas.

Word salad, but I don’t give AF about charters. And apparently you don’t either because you’re unaware that the Hanas charter was revised in the last decade. The only place you’ll find “from the river to the sea” is in the Likud charter, the founding documents forged by the leader of Israel’s current government.

Again, I condemn Israel, Hamas and all terror groups. Zero support.

But you won’t condemn Israel, which makes you part of the problem that the rest of the world will have to address.

You don’t give AF about charters but you take Hamas at its word for its so called “revised” charter that everyone knows is BS propaganda to trick dumb people like you.

Dumb people like me?

What do you consider fact? You take the word of radical, extremist Zionism as fact, and when Hamas explicitly changes their charter to address your accusations, you move the goalposts and call it BS propaganda.

Can your brilliant mind start to see why most people don’t believe, respect, take seriously, or care for the group of people you’re either part of or that you’re willing to blindly, unconditionally support?

I never said I take radical wings of the Israeli government as fact. I’ve said repeatedly on this thread that I hate Bibi.

I have no desire to continue talking to you if you continue to ignore what I say.

I’m not the person to whom you’re responding, but understand this: I’ve been telling Zionists for a very long time that it would be them and their arrogance and myopia which will destroy Israel. They are unprepared to understand that it is not just Netanyahu. It is Israeli society as a whole that is a problem. It’s always laughable to me when people who think they know things, try to make a distinction between Netanyahu and the rest. There isn’t. With more and more people from the former Soviet Union and Mizrahi lunatics like Gvir taking over, it’s going to get worse and it won’t be at the hands of Palestinians. The United States protecting that country from any/all accountability and funding its depravity for administration after administration, inevitably created a monster and you can’t see it. You’d probably rather believe that everyone is just an antisemite, because it’s much easier than actually delving into the lies told on Israel’s behalf. That’s what people like Jake Tapper and Dana Bash do. They chalk everything up to anti-Semitism and when called out, they don’t have the guts to debate their role in spreading israeli propaganda. And of course they have nothing to say about the despicable congressional hearings on hate where it was actually Arabs and Muslims literally targeted with hate by elected officials, not just some random person at a protest or some tweet being the entire argument regarding antisemitism. Social media is not having it. Read Max Blumenthal responding to Jake Tapper claiming that Dana Bash was a victim of antisemitism at her book signing. Jake Tapper doesn’t have the guts to respond. People see through the lies being told on the Israeli side and the US coddling those lies. And they see through the glaring omissions in media. The moment Israel started jonesing to go into Lebanon, I knew the US being its lapdog, would be willing to continue to destroy itself and go along.

I hope at some point, Americans realize what a disaster it has been to lie on behalf of an occupation, not a democracy.

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

They’re more peace loving than Israel. Obviously they’re not doing pre emptive strike after pre emptive strike like Israel is doing. Why are they pre empting fire from Iran when Iran has already said a million times they don’t want a war with Israel’s substitute the US?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Israel now has clearly moved beyond “precision targeting”. Civilians - who posed no imminent threat to Israel - are being killed.

While many here don’t seem to care about Palestinian lives….will you care about Lebanese or do you want to make multi generational enemies of that country too?

8,000 Hezbollah rockets launched into Israel.

You want Israel to do nothing.

How many artillery shells, air strikes, and electronic devices did the Israeli use in Lebanon. The Lebanese have a right to defend themselves.

Ok. So here’s what happened:

Hamas attacked on Oct 7.

Hezbollah launched rockets on Oct 8.

Can Israel defend itself?

you are very conveniently leaving out 100 years of history that predates 10/7

The course of action with the least risk of life lost is for Israel to declare a ceasefire in Gaza. Hezbollah has always said they iull stop firing into Israel when there is a ceasefire.

Ah yes. Because before 10/7, Hezbollah was a peace loving bunch of hippies.

No, they are trying through their actions to get Israel to recognize international law and leave occupied territory, too.

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

Wow. An apologist for Hezbollah. Never thought I’d see it.

Hezbollah is an Iran proxy group. They are doing Iran’s bidding and are pursuing Iran’s strategic goal, which is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Hamas is the same thing.

I’m not supportive of any of these groups. I fully condemn them all. But I’m not binary (like you, apparently), so there are degrees of contempt across the board. And unlike you, I don’t give any of them a pass because of the sins of their neighbors, including Israel.

Now that that’s settled, since I dictate what I do and don’t support, not you … let’s get you on the record right now with what you stand for, and we can start with you answering the simple question below (2nd attempt).

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

That's a very weasel answer to anything. And very pathetic. Either/Or. Both sides. Whataboutism.

And you dictate your little whateveresim.

Not the previous poster. But...

Do you have a problem with either the Hezbollah or Hamas charter?

You should read it.

If I were Israeli, I would 100 percent be for the destruction of Hezbollah and Hamas.

Word salad, but I don’t give AF about charters. And apparently you don’t either because you’re unaware that the Hanas charter was revised in the last decade. The only place you’ll find “from the river to the sea” is in the Likud charter, the founding documents forged by the leader of Israel’s current government.

Again, I condemn Israel, Hamas and all terror groups. Zero support.

But you won’t condemn Israel, which makes you part of the problem that the rest of the world will have to address.

You don’t give AF about charters but you take Hamas at its word for its so called “revised” charter that everyone knows is BS propaganda to trick dumb people like you.

Dumb people like me?

What do you consider fact? You take the word of radical, extremist Zionism as fact, and when Hamas explicitly changes their charter to address your accusations, you move the goalposts and call it BS propaganda.

Can your brilliant mind start to see why most people don’t believe, respect, take seriously, or care for the group of people you’re either part of or that you’re willing to blindly, unconditionally support?

I never said I take radical wings of the Israeli government as fact. I’ve said repeatedly on this thread that I hate Bibi.

I have no desire to continue talking to you if you continue to ignore what I say.

I’m not the person to whom you’re responding, but understand this: I’ve been telling Zionists for a very long time that it would be them and their arrogance and myopia which will destroy Israel. They are unprepared to understand that it is not just Netanyahu. It is Israeli society as a whole that is a problem. It’s always laughable to me when people who think they know things, try to make a distinction between Netanyahu and the rest. There isn’t. With more and more people from the former Soviet Union and Mizrahi lunatics like Gvir taking over, it’s going to get worse and it won’t be at the hands of Palestinians. The United States protecting that country from any/all accountability and funding its depravity for administration after administration, inevitably created a monster and you can’t see it. You’d probably rather believe that everyone is just an antisemite, because it’s much easier than actually delving into the lies told on Israel’s behalf. That’s what people like Jake Tapper and Dana Bash do. They chalk everything up to anti-Semitism and when called out, they don’t have the guts to debate their role in spreading israeli propaganda. And of course they have nothing to say about the despicable congressional hearings on hate where it was actually Arabs and Muslims literally targeted with hate by elected officials, not just some random person at a protest or some tweet being the entire argument regarding antisemitism. Social media is not having it. Read Max Blumenthal responding to Jake Tapper claiming that Dana Bash was a victim of antisemitism at her book signing. Jake Tapper doesn’t have the guts to respond. People see through the lies being told on the Israeli side and the US coddling those lies. And they see through the glaring omissions in media. The moment Israel started jonesing to go into Lebanon, I knew the US being its lapdog, would be willing to continue to destroy itself and go along.

I hope at some point, Americans realize what a disaster it has been to lie on behalf of an occupation, not a democracy.

You’re nasty.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

They’re more peace loving than Israel. Obviously they’re not doing pre emptive strike after pre emptive strike like Israel is doing. Why are they pre empting fire from Iran when Iran has already said a million times they don’t want a war with Israel’s substitute the US?

Oh honey. Your naivety is so deep. If you love Iran so much, why don’t you move there?

[Anonymous]

I would understand if there was proof Iran and Hezbollah did 10/7 but they didn’t. Israel knows who did and where they are (Gaza) but they want Lebanon and have wanted to attack Hezbollah for a long time because theyre “too strong to exist” on their border after Hezbollah and Russia just beat ISIS with ease in Syria much to Israel’s disappointment and despite their constant aide

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

They’re more peace loving than Israel. Obviously they’re not doing pre emptive strike after pre emptive strike like Israel is doing. Why are they pre empting fire from Iran when Iran has already said a million times they don’t want a war with Israel’s substitute the US?

Oh honey. Your naivety is so deep. If you love Iran so much, why don’t you move there?

I would. At least they don’t need an Iron dome to be safe to exist. Israel wants to fear spread but they would no need to fear anything if they acted like decent human beings and good neighbors

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But that seems like too much to ask and a tall order for some

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I would understand if there was proof Iran and Hezbollah did 10/7 but they didn’t. Israel knows who did and where they are (Gaza) but they want Lebanon and have wanted to attack Hezbollah for a long time because theyre “too strong to exist” on their border after Hezbollah and Russia just beat ISIS with ease in Syria much to Israel’s disappointment and despite their constant aide

Iran’s proxy—Hamas—did 10/7. Keep up.

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

They’re more peace loving than Israel. Obviously they’re not doing pre emptive strike after pre emptive strike like Israel is doing. Why are they pre empting fire from Iran when Iran has already said a million times they don’t want a war with Israel’s substitute the US?

Oh honey. Your naivety is so deep. If you love Iran so much, why don’t you move there?

If you hate it so much, why don’t you strike it? Why are you waiting for the US to fight it for you?

Russia and China has already said they will step in and defend Iran so this means it will become WW3 with all nuclear powers.

You don’t think see how this harms Jews everywhere and helps Hamas?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does Lebanon have a standing Army, Airforce, etc.?

Of course they do.

It’s like you all think these groups and countries are a bunch of tent cities.

It’s pretty insulting to the people living there.

Oh ok. So…where are they? There are cities being bombed all over Lebanon. It doesn’t look as though there is a functional organized military force that is capable of any significant offensive or defensive operations.

Problem is, the Lebanese Army doesn’t exactly get along with Hezbollah.

Hezbollah is very strong — about the size of the army for a medium-sized state. It’s bigger than the official Lebanese army.

Is that because Hezbollah has Iran backing it? Peace loving Iran?

They’re more peace loving than Israel. Obviously they’re not doing pre emptive strike after pre emptive strike like Israel is doing. Why are they pre empting fire from Iran when Iran has already said a million times they don’t want a war with Israel’s substitute the US?

Oh honey. Your naivety is so deep. If you love Iran so much, why don’t you move there?

If you hate it so much, why don’t you strike it? Why are you waiting for the US to fight it for you?

Russia and China has already said they will step in and defend Iran so this means it will become WW3 with all nuclear powers.

You don’t think see how this harms Jews everywhere and helps Hamas?

lol what. I can’t strike a country.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I would understand if there was proof Iran and Hezbollah did 10/7 but they didn’t. Israel knows who did and where they are (Gaza) but they want Lebanon and have wanted to attack Hezbollah for a long time because theyre “too strong to exist” on their border after Hezbollah and Russia just beat ISIS with ease in Syria much to Israel’s disappointment and despite their constant aide

Iran’s proxy—Hamas—did 10/7. Keep up.

Hamas’s proxy is Netanyahu. Why hasn’t Netanyahu killed Sinwar yet? Israel does not want the Palestinian Authority to take over Gaza. They hated that Ismail Haniyeh was also saying he wanted a Western brokered ceasefire /two state solution too. They want Sinwar alive because he’s their man right now as he is not a moderate Palestinian voice and hates the word negotiation and is undetectable by Americans. I am sure Mossad knows which tunnel he is in but they need him alive to be a boogeyman for the already divided Israeli public and because Netanyahu knows he’ll likely go to jail once the war ends.

Your king and your kingdom is the emperor with no clothes right now

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Anonymous wrote:Israel now has clearly moved beyond “precision targeting”. Civilians - who posed no imminent threat to Israel - are being killed.

While many here don’t seem to care about Palestinian lives….will you care about Lebanese or do you want to make multi generational enemies of that country too?

8,000 Hezbollah rockets launched into Israel.

You want Israel to do nothing.

How many artillery shells, air strikes, and electronic devices did the Israeli use in Lebanon. The Lebanese have a right to defend themselves.

Ok. So here’s what happened:

Hamas attacked on Oct 7.

Hezbollah launched rockets on Oct 8.

Can Israel defend itself?

you are very conveniently leaving out 100 years of history that predates 10/7

The course of action with the least risk of life lost is for Israel to declare a ceasefire in Gaza. Hezbollah has always said they iull stop firing into Israel when there is a ceasefire.

Ah yes. Because before 10/7, Hezbollah was a peace loving bunch of hippies.

No, they are trying through their actions to get Israel to recognize international law and leave occupied territory, too.

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

Wow. An apologist for Hezbollah. Never thought I’d see it.

Hezbollah is an Iran proxy group. They are doing Iran’s bidding and are pursuing Iran’s strategic goal, which is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth.

Hamas is the same thing.

I’m not supportive of any of these groups. I fully condemn them all. But I’m not binary (like you, apparently), so there are degrees of contempt across the board. And unlike you, I don’t give any of them a pass because of the sins of their neighbors, including Israel.

Now that that’s settled, since I dictate what I do and don’t support, not you … let’s get you on the record right now with what you stand for, and we can start with you answering the simple question below (2nd attempt).

Do you have a problem with Israel being required to follow international law?

No. But that’s not what Hezbollah’s goals are. Hezbollah’s goals are the same as its benefactor, Iran: the wholesale destruction of Israel.

Cool. You expect Israel to follow international law. Appreciate that.

Next question: Since Israel has unequivocally flouted and violated international law daily for at least the past 76+ years, why do you continue to support a nation that defiantly refuses to recognize international law?

I don’t support Bibi. I believe Israel has a right to exist.

Now since you’re asking me questions, I’ll ask you one: why are you miscasting Hezbollah as simply wanting Israel to abide by international law, when they’ve been abundantly clear that they want to wipe Israel off the face of the earth?

I didn’t miscast them as ONLY wanting Israel to follow international law. But Israeli’s failure to do so certainly doesn’t help anyone take Israeli’s preposterous “pre-emptive self-defense” and “existential threat” claims seriously.

I believe these groups use threatening language to project power in the midst of having none. It’s a game of optics, played by power brokers in these tribes who seek to bolster support from populations greatly maligned by the U.S. through our blind, unconditional support of Israel. Non-existent existential impact.

I don’t believe these groups, collectively, have 1% of the capacity to do any harm to Israel. Therefore, my attention rests on Israel’s reaction - the disproportionate reaction that results in massacres like 42,000+ dead in Gaza following 1,200 dead in Israel.

You cannot possibly believe that this current conflict will improve the level of safety and peace in Israel. And yet this frenzied response. It’s madness.

It’s both frightening and amusing how the far left has become sympathetic with long-recognized Islamic terror groups. I’m a democrat who is so alarmed by what I see in the liberal movement.

They are deemed terrorists by the west. In other places, they are seen as freedom fighters.

So are the Taliban, and hey, they hate Israel too! So I guess we are all in for them also, right? Isn't that the new benchmark for good guy vs. bad guy? Hate Israel? Good guy! Doesn't matter what you have done in the past, who pays your bills, how you carry yourself, if you are guilty of a multitude of horrors you've taken full credit for. If you hate Israel, that's all that matters in this world we live in right now.