Mother of 2 from VERY prominent Richmond family arrested by FBI for child p@rn, exploitation, etc

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

Is this a joke?

I hope not. Comparing feet to the charging documents is disgusting.

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I found a pic of her at a work event in 2020 and she appears to be well dressed and casual chatting with coworkers.

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Its scary as usually we tend to trust other moms. I certainly feel very motherly towards all kids since I had my own and see it as a default setting for all moms.

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Anonymous wrote:I found a pic of her at a work event in 2020 and she appears to be well dressed and casual chatting with coworkers.

Guess appearances can be deceiving and can deflect from the monster within.

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Anonymous wrote:She was also a church volunteer. Seeing her name in the same paragraph as youth ministry is sickening: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/St--Paul-s-Memorial-Church-Weekly-Update-for-August-23--2018.html?soid=1124684668493&aid=zdXIklZcnZA

Unfortunate however there are no rules or screening requirements for either.

As a former children's ministry volunteer, that is not entirely true. Yes, most churches don't screen volunteers like preschools etc do, but most do have safeguards in place, for example, in our church every person who works with children needs to take a securely abuse awareness course and no adult is allowed to be alone with children, there always need to be 2 or more adults with any children's activity. In addition, married or partnered couples are not allowed to be alone with children. Meaning my husband and I never taught a Sunday school class together and if we did, we would have needed an additional person there.

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

Is this a joke?

Believe me - it was very real!!! I had the most unfortunate experience of seeing her wearing open toed sandals at a formal social event. It really took me back and catching my breath, I thought “what the hell is she thinking???”. She must have been oblivious going out in public looking like that - it was a clear sign of the degradation

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

This comforts me in some ways as it indicates that there other parents were well aware she had major issues and probably weren’t letting her host play dates and she wasn’t volunteering at school at that point. It also confirms my past bias that female abusers follow very different patterns than male abusers and your typical mom living a boring mom life is extremely low risk for CSA.

I cannot bring myself to read the complaint, but are her feet pictured? Does Pp have knowledge of her feet? I’m having a hard time even imagine how bad feet could be.

That poster seems to be making a sick and inappropriate joke, esp given the gravity of the topic of this thred. Maybe they migrated over from FetLife, feet are a thing for some. Best to ignore.

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

Is this a joke?

Believe me - it was very real!!! I had the most unfortunate experience of seeing her wearing open toed sandals at a formal social event. It really took me back and catching my breath, I thought “what the hell is she thinking???”. She must have been oblivious going out in public looking like that - it was a clear sign of the degradation

Sick freak making fetish jokes and mocking mental illness on a thread about harm to children.

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

This comforts me in some ways as it indicates that there other parents were well aware she had major issues and probably weren’t letting her host play dates and she wasn’t volunteering at school at that point. It also confirms my past bias that female abusers follow very different patterns than male abusers and your typical mom living a boring mom life is extremely low risk for CSA.

I cannot bring myself to read the complaint, but are her feet pictured? Does Pp have knowledge of her feet? I’m having a hard time even imagine how bad feet could be.

That poster seems to be making a sick and inappropriate joke, esp given the gravity of the topic of this thred. Maybe they migrated over from FetLife, feet are a thing for some. Best to ignore.

Sounds like poster actually saw her and this comment is based on her irl appearance

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Anonymous wrote:It must have been quite alarming for those around her to watch her descent into madness and various addictions. Posts here and elsewhere have described increasingly erratic behavior, issues with hygiene, etc. It is good that the children were gotten out of her care.

That 2019 conviction really was a missed opportunity.

Had she not had a trust this is the kind of person who could end up becoming homeless.

+1 homeless and/or killed by a pickup.

What exactly are issues with hygiene? It's an odd comment.

Her feet - OMG - were like something you would imagine belonging to a creature from another planet. I’m at a loss for words just thinking about how she let them get to that state. Many on this blog have warned against reading the court documents of this case because they are so disturbing; well let me tell you, seeing her feet would scar you! And that is just one example!

This comforts me in some ways as it indicates that there other parents were well aware she had major issues and probably weren’t letting her host play dates and she wasn’t volunteering at school at that point. It also confirms my past bias that female abusers follow very different patterns than male abusers and your typical mom living a boring mom life is extremely low risk for CSA.

I cannot bring myself to read the complaint, but are her feet pictured? Does Pp have knowledge of her feet? I’m having a hard time even imagine how bad feet could be.

That poster seems to be making a sick and inappropriate joke, esp given the gravity of the topic of this thred. Maybe they migrated over from FetLife, feet are a thing for some. Best to ignore.

Sounds like poster actually saw her and this comment is based on her irl appearance

Highly doubt it. Seems mocking and very inappropriate given the seriousness of the topic. Maybe those who claim to fraternize with people like Hoppe should be side eyed too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was also a church volunteer. Seeing her name in the same paragraph as youth ministry is sickening: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/St--Paul-s-Memorial-Church-Weekly-Update-for-August-23--2018.html?soid=1124684668493&aid=zdXIklZcnZA

Unfortunate however there are no rules or screening requirements for either.

As a former children's ministry volunteer, that is not entirely true. Yes, most churches don't screen volunteers like preschools etc do, but most do have safeguards in place, for example, in our church every person who works with children needs to take a securely abuse awareness course and no adult is allowed to be alone with children, there always need to be 2 or more adults with any children's activity. In addition, married or partnered couples are not allowed to be alone with children. Meaning my husband and I never taught a Sunday school class together and if we did, we would have needed an additional person there.

I think it varies, my church required fingerprint background checks for Sunday School teachers.

Nothing would have red flagged her prior to 2019, and since conviction was vacated on appeal (thanks Eppa!!!), likely nothing would after. There is value in checks, but, it is somewhat limited.

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Anonymous wrote:It really took me back

Took you back to what?!!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was also a church volunteer. Seeing her name in the same paragraph as youth ministry is sickening: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/St--Paul-s-Memorial-Church-Weekly-Update-for-August-23--2018.html?soid=1124684668493&aid=zdXIklZcnZA

Unfortunate however there are no rules or screening requirements for either.

As a former children's ministry volunteer, that is not entirely true. Yes, most churches don't screen volunteers like preschools etc do, but most do have safeguards in place, for example, in our church every person who works with children needs to take a securely abuse awareness course and no adult is allowed to be alone with children, there always need to be 2 or more adults with any children's activity. In addition, married or partnered couples are not allowed to be alone with children. Meaning my husband and I never taught a Sunday school class together and if we did, we would have needed an additional person there.

I think it varies, my church required fingerprint background checks for Sunday School teachers.

Nothing would have red flagged her prior to 2019, and since conviction was vacated on appeal (thanks Eppa!!!), likely nothing would after. There is value in checks, but, it is somewhat limited.

Most churches don't aggressively ensure there are always 2 adults around when they are working with children. As much as Boy Scouts is maligned, when my kids joined their troop was rabid about this rule. Even emails had to include more than one adult.

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Anonymous wrote:Its scary as usually we tend to trust other moms. I certainly feel very motherly towards all kids since I had my own and see it as a default setting for all moms.

Maybe you are wrong and shouldn’t judge people based on their gender alone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:She was also a church volunteer. Seeing her name in the same paragraph as youth ministry is sickening: https://myemail.constantcontact.com/St--Paul-s-Memorial-Church-Weekly-Update-for-August-23--2018.html?soid=1124684668493&aid=zdXIklZcnZA

Unfortunate however there are no rules or screening requirements for either.

As a former children's ministry volunteer, that is not entirely true. Yes, most churches don't screen volunteers like preschools etc do, but most do have safeguards in place, for example, in our church every person who works with children needs to take a securely abuse awareness course and no adult is allowed to be alone with children, there always need to be 2 or more adults with any children's activity. In addition, married or partnered couples are not allowed to be alone with children. Meaning my husband and I never taught a Sunday school class together and if we did, we would have needed an additional person there.

I think it varies, my church required fingerprint background checks for Sunday School teachers.

Nothing would have red flagged her prior to 2019, and since conviction was vacated on appeal (thanks Eppa!!!), likely nothing would after. There is value in checks, but, it is somewhat limited.

Most churches don't aggressively ensure there are always 2 adults around when they are working with children. As much as Boy Scouts is maligned, when my kids joined their troop was rabid about this rule. Even emails had to include more than one adult.

For over 20 years, our church has fingerprinted/background checked anyone working with children and definitely have the 2 person rule.