Discrimination against Asians

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What's next after lottery? Change grades to pass/fail because the lottery kids can't keep up?

Do what Stanford does, provide remedial math classes to help those students who may have come from middle schools with inadequate academic support.

Because it is a lottery, many will have had adequate academic support, or they might not have, but instead have had pursued other endeavors instead of academics. Your remedial class will be filled with the privileged with a minority who truly deserve it.

Why do these people come here and then get upset when Americans don’t want them imposing their antiquated caste systems on our schools?

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How are these Asian students discriminated against? They get into top tier high schools both public and private. Their parents seem to be able to pay for top tier private? How is that discrimination? They also get into top tier colleges. The kids that are discriminated against are the AA in which the Mom is working 2 jobs to earn $30,000 per year.

Right, Asian Americans. On top of that, they have to overcome language barrier and discrimination in college admissions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those idiots advocating for the change is just like Trump - If I don't get in it must be rigged. Go follow Trump.

You don’t seem very bright. You may want to educate yourself on the different parties’ stances on school choice and public education. I will not be voting for Trump and I support using our public resources for the better good for a larger segment of the public, rather than a select few who know how to game the system by prepping.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those idiots advocating for the change is just like Trump - If I don't get in it must be rigged. Go follow Trump.

You don’t seem very bright. You may want to educate yourself on the different parties’ stances on school choice and public education. I will not be voting for Trump and I support using our public resources for the better good for a larger segment of the public, rather than a select few who know how to game the system by prepping.

If my kid didn’t get in, it must be rigged. Revised it for you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Make your point without name calling.

What is your point?

Jewish compose about 2 percent of U.S. population, but more than double that in Congress, including Chuck Schumer. Before RBG passed away, Jews represented 37.5% of Supreme Court.

That said, Jews have gone through a lot too, not just in this country obviously

Jews are 20% of the Ivy League...a 10x overrepresentation to national population levels.

Yet if Asians are overrepresented by magnitudes much narrower (3-4x), non Asians start place caps.

The Jewish quota was wrong, the Asian quota is wrong.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Jews have white privilege now. It may not have been the case decades ago when there weren't many non-whites around, but it is the case today because of all of the non-whites to whom racism is directed.

I wouldn’t say Jews have 100% white privilege but Ashkenazi Jews pass a lot easier than Asians which makes a huge difference.

I’m sure if most Jews in the us were not ashkenazi, Jewish success would be much lower (kind of like how it is in Israel itself between various Jewish groups)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Make your point without name calling.

What is your point?

Jewish compose about 2 percent of U.S. population, but more than double that in Congress, including Chuck Schumer. Before RBG passed away, Jews represented 37.5% of Supreme Court.

That said, Jews have gone through a lot too, not just in this country obviously

Jews are 20% of the Ivy League...a 10x overrepresentation to national population levels.

Yet if Asians are overrepresented by magnitudes much narrower (3-4x), non Asians start place caps.

The Jewish quota was wrong, the Asian quota is wrong.

We need quotas for all public high school programs such as sports, band, orchestra, cheerleading, drama, choir, SGA etc. Equity demands it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Jews have white privilege now. It may not have been the case decades ago when there weren't many non-whites around, but it is the case today because of all of the non-whites to whom racism is directed.

You mean Ashkenazi Jews? I'm part Sephardic with Black Jewish family members. We don't easily pass as white.

There's a large non white Jewish population. Ethiopian Jews for example are blacker than most American blacks. Google falash mura.


Anyway, I sympathize with Asians and with anyone who is discriminated against for any reason

There is not a large non-white Jewish population in the US. the vast majority of jews in the us as ashkenzi.

“ Today the Jewish community in the United States consists primarily of Ashkenazi Jews, who descend from diaspora Jewish populations of Central and Eastern Europe and comprise about 90–95% of the American Jewish population.”

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What's next after lottery? Change grades to pass/fail because the lottery kids can't keep up?

Do what Stanford does, provide remedial math classes to help those students who may have come from middle schools with inadequate academic support.

Because it is a lottery, many will have had adequate academic support, or they might not have, but instead have had pursued other endeavors instead of academics. Your remedial class will be filled with the privileged with a minority who truly deserve it.

Why do these people come here and then get upset when Americans don’t want them imposing their antiquated caste systems on our schools?

?

How are these Asian students discriminated against? They get into top tier high schools both public and private. Their parents seem to be able to pay for top tier private? How is that discrimination? They also get into top tier colleges. The kids that are discriminated against are the AA in which the Mom is working 2 jobs to earn $30,000 per year.

Racist of you to assume that mom working 2 jobs without any other support can only be African American. Or do you not know that there are plenty of Asian Americans in the same situation, in TJ?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Crybabies. Figure it out.

- A Jew (we’re also not good at sports, but have figured out how to be represented across the board in industries that don’t require physical prowess)

Make your point without name calling.

What is your point?

Jewish compose about 2 percent of U.S. population, but more than double that in Congress, including Chuck Schumer. Before RBG passed away, Jews represented 37.5% of Supreme Court.

That said, Jews have gone through a lot too, not just in this country obviously

Jews are 20% of the Ivy League...a 10x overrepresentation to national population levels.

Yet if Asians are overrepresented by magnitudes much narrower (3-4x), non Asians start place caps.

The Jewish quota was wrong, the Asian quota is wrong.

We need quotas for all public high school programs such as sports, band, orchestra, cheerleading, drama, choir, SGA etc. Equity demands it.

This.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Those idiots advocating for the change is just like Trump - If I don't get in it must be rigged. Go follow Trump.

+1

Their proposal attracted quite a few racists on DCUM who denigrate TJ as not "American", not assimilating, the typical Trump's dog whistle against minorities. They never blame their kids not working hard but those 'foreigner' students, who are US citizens. Most of these advocates are 'Karens' whose kids can't compete.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The lottery won't be equally applied:

"the plan does not contain a lottery among all qualified applicants. First, it divides the applicant base into five regions within Fairfax County. The plan did not explain how that was to be done. Based on historical patterns, one would expect there would be substantially more qualified students in the more affluent parts of the county.

Using made-up numbers, let’s say 3500 8th graders make the cut and are distributed as follows. The 3500 kids from FCPS in my example are not evenly spread throughout each of the five districts, nor would they be in real life. There aren’t 700 qualified kids in each of the five districts. Let’s say it’s 100 kids in A. 200 kids in B. 300 kids in C. 1000 kids in D and 2000 kids in E. Under the first FCPS plan, each district gets 50 seats at TJ. (Now 100 seats are awarded by “merit.”) Within each district, the lottery is fair. But if you compare the odds of selection district-by-district, there is a huge discrepancy in each student’s chance of being elected. In district A, 50/100 get in (50%). In B, 50/200 get in (25%). In C, 50/300 get in (16.7%). In D, 50 of 1000 (5%). And finally, in E, 50 of 2000 (2.5%). While I created those numbers, I strongly suspect that there will be major differences in the total number of qualified students in each region by purpose and each district will have considerably different racial and ethnic makeups. And since this is clearly being done for racial purposes, FCPS is clearly treating kids differently based on race.

And it also treats members of the “same” ethnic group differently based on where they live. For example, one of the feeder elementary schools for McLean high school has a very high number of Hispanics, many of whom are low-income. In my example, we’d expect to see larger numbers of Hispanic applicants in districts A-C than in E, which contains the McLean HS pyramid. Hispanic applicants in district E have a much lower chance of getting into TJ simply based on where their parents live. That’s fairness alright.

Supposedly, Brabrand has modified the regions, but has not explained how they will be populated. Unless they are virtually equal in number, students, allegedly equally qualified, will be treated differently. And since this is based on race/ethnicity, suspect factors under the Constitution, the program may well not pass muster in the courts."

I don't care about TJ, but I think this is brilliant actually. It seems tons of people do care - and maybe they care enough that they would MOVE to an area with fewer high performing kids. That would bring diversity and probably improve neighborhood E.S and MS. Let's say you really want your kid to get into TJ - would you live in Great Falls or in Herndon?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those idiots advocating for the change is just like Trump - If I don't get in it must be rigged. Go follow Trump.

You don’t seem very bright. You may want to educate yourself on the different parties’ stances on school choice and public education. I will not be voting for Trump and I support using our public resources for the better good for a larger segment of the public, rather than a select few who know how to game the system by prepping.

If my kid didn’t get in, it must be rigged. Revised it for you.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Those idiots advocating for the change is just like Trump - If I don't get in it must be rigged. Go follow Trump.

You don’t seem very bright. You may want to educate yourself on the different parties’ stances on school choice and public education. I will not be voting for Trump and I support using our public resources for the better good for a larger segment of the public, rather than a select few who know how to game the system by prepping.

If my kid didn’t get in, it must be rigged. Revised it for you.

+1

PP is funny. This is so true!

[Anonymous]

Since when is prepping "gaming the system"?

Don't people prep for interviews, for the SATs, LSATs, speeches, Olympics...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Since when is prepping "gaming the system"?

Don't people prep for interviews, for the SATs, LSATs, speeches, Olympics...

It's only gaming if Asians do it.