Kobe Bryant killed in helicopter crash (per TMZ)

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

You are being ridiculous. Go to 10 websites that have something about Kobe on them, and tell me how many words are dedicated to the accusation compared to how many words dedicated to how awesome he was and how sad everyone is. It's HARDLY any. Sorry you are triggered by the few people who refuse to remember Kobe exactly the way you want them to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

You are being ridiculous. Go to 10 websites that have something about Kobe on them, and tell me how many words are dedicated to the accusation compared to how many words dedicated to how awesome he was and how sad everyone is. It's HARDLY any. Sorry you are triggered by the few people who refuse to remember Kobe exactly the way you want them to.

Can you read? I literally just said that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

You are being ridiculous. Go to 10 websites that have something about Kobe on them, and tell me how many words are dedicated to the accusation compared to how many words dedicated to how awesome he was and how sad everyone is. It's HARDLY any. Sorry you are triggered by the few people who refuse to remember Kobe exactly the way you want them to.

Can you read? I literally just said that.

You literally said the accusations are "overshadowing everything".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

Sexual assault is more than a 'mistake' a 'mistake' is mailing your rent late or forgetting to carry the one. He hurt another human in a way that cannot be undone or fixed. That's not for nothing.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

Sexual assault is more than a 'mistake' a 'mistake' is mailing your rent late or forgetting to carry the one. He hurt another human in a way that cannot be undone or fixed. That's not for nothing.

She’s schizophrenic so we will never really know.

[Anonymous]

I am of the opinion that this was a miscommunication about consent. That she was legitimately likely scared given how rough he got and couldn't really speak up since his hands were on his neck. That he didn't realize until later that he had crossed a line.

In the first conversation with police at the hotel he clearly doesn't think he did anything wrong (is confused) and keeps using three main points to back this up - 1) they kissed and she asked for autographs afterwards, 2) she bent herself over the chair and put her foot up herself (the sex started consensually), and 3) he stopped when she verbalized the word no. He acknowledges he didn't ask her before getting rough and he says he did put his hands on her neck as that is how he likes to have sex.

I feel for her as I feel the aftermath and the attacks on her were completely wrong and unfair. She had a right to come forward and tell about her experience and he had a right to defend himself. She didn't disservice was the death threats, being shamed and blamed and all the hate she got after the fact. That likely ruined her life far more than the events she had filed the complaint about.

[Anonymous]

I love the stories that are coming out now about how he granted so many "make a wish" visits and how he wanted no PR for these visits. Says so much about him.

[Anonymous]

I thought it was cool to learn that he went to church at 7 am that morning, I can't tell you how many times I have skipped church when my kids had a Sunday sporting event.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I thought it was cool to learn that he went to church at 7 am that morning, I can't tell you how many times I have skipped church when my kids had a Sunday sporting event.

I didn't even realize he was Catholic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

You are being ridiculous. Go to 10 websites that have something about Kobe on them, and tell me how many words are dedicated to the accusation compared to how many words dedicated to how awesome he was and how sad everyone is. It's HARDLY any. Sorry you are triggered by the few people who refuse to remember Kobe exactly the way you want them to.

Can you read? I literally just said that.

You literally said the accusations are "overshadowing everything".

Yes, genuius, have you read this thread? Most of the posts are about the rape...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Also he was 24 and has apologized, and has done nothing else since then until his death. People make mistakes, but to smear the guys reputation like that is just ludicrous. He learned from the event and moved on to raise a great family with a loving wife who forgave him. Scandal free since.

It’s not smearing his reputation. People are complicated, and he was gifted but not perfect.

Nobody ever claimed he was perfect. Nobody dies perfect.

Kobe was a big deal to many and a major celebrity and sports figure and influence to many kids and teens. And the way he died really sucks since he lost not only his life at a young age, but his daughter.

People are focused on that. No one is calling him a saint. But to harp on the accusations and let it overshadow everything is getting quite old.

You are being ridiculous. Go to 10 websites that have something about Kobe on them, and tell me how many words are dedicated to the accusation compared to how many words dedicated to how awesome he was and how sad everyone is. It's HARDLY any. Sorry you are triggered by the few people who refuse to remember Kobe exactly the way you want them to.

Can you read? I literally just said that.

You literally said the accusations are "overshadowing everything".

Yes, genuius, have you read this thread? Most of the posts are about the rape...

Because of the people arguing it shouldn’t be mentioned.

[Anonymous]

Since posters are claiming that Kobe should be exempt from being remembered for the sexual assault because -
- athletes, even married fathers, cheat
- groupies like to have sex with them and often try to extort them
- wives know and accept this deal because of the money
- he committed adultry not rape
Makes me realize that we should continue to talk about Kobe in this context, especially now that he is dead. Infact, his daughters should know what he was accused of and what he admitted to.. Why? Only then male athletes will change their behaviour. Kobe should be made an example of and his legacy should always be remembered along with this incident (adultry with battery or violent rape - you choose). Unless athletes are made aware that this inhumane beastial behaviour will not be pardoned and forgotten, they will never have any motivation to change. Kobe will not be forgiven and neither will any other athlete who dares to rape. Keep it in your pants and use your damn hands.
Let athletes know that

[Anonymous]

I’m a sexual assault survivor and my rapist went to jail. I live in Los Angeles and it makes me want to throw up whenever I see Kobe jerseys. I know people hate the word triggering, but that’s how this feels. I got justice but the defence attorney put me through hell to get it. It’s really hard for me to see all this adoration for Kobe when I view him as a rapist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a sexual assault survivor and my rapist went to jail. I live in Los Angeles and it makes me want to throw up whenever I see Kobe jerseys. I know people hate the word triggering, but that’s how this feels. I got justice but the defence attorney put me through hell to get it. It’s really hard for me to see all this adoration for Kobe when I view him as a rapist.

+1
His legacy would have been that of Mike Tysonof he would have gone to jail.. His time on Earth and his life wAs very lucky and cushy.