First day drop off -- MD tags

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

I think that what you are missing is that MANY residents, particularly low income residents, would be hard pressed to produce 8 forms of proof of residency. If you are renting an apartment with utilities covered, use a pay as you go mobile phone and debit card (common among low income folks), and don't pay other bills by mail because you've moved too often in recent years, then I have a hard time imagining how you would come up with 8 forms of verification.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Please. You would still be up in arms. Who cares how much proof is presented if a kid is riding in a car with MD tags?

And I'm really interested to learn how residency fraud is denying kids seats at Deal and Wilson. Everyone with a right to go to those schools has a right to go to those schools.

The hate-on for you people is that you're waving your bigotry around like can-can girls. I can believe that there's fraud going on, but it's probably happening in bigger numbers with people you're not even considering because, outwardly, they're people you deem acceptable. I'd wager there are more white DC residents fraudulently attending your school than PG county residents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:My school just asked for supplemental information to prove our residency.

We had it, of course, but I take this as a sign that they do investigate, they are on top of it, and all the crazy stalking moms standing on sidewalks writing down license plates isn't doing anything. (We have DC plates. You know, because we live in DC.)

Maybe they need to make pointed investigations on the low-hanging fruit, i.e. parents dropping off kids in front of the school with out-of-state tags. That would be a better use of resources. DCPS administrators aren't the brightest bulbs....

Well who do you think DCPS can get for the front office with a low paying salary.

Have you checked out the salaries? Administrators, as in people in management positions, get paid very well in DCPS. They probably make well more than you, and have more common sense to boot. The administrators set the policy and instruct the staff on what procedures to follow. Instructing staff to follow up on red flag issues such as Md. tags by requiring additional substantiation of residence, and making a referral to MPD or DMV that out-of-state tags are illegally on a DC-based vehicle (if appropriate), would be what an administrator would do. This all assumes they care about residency fraud. The point of this thread is that it appears they don't care, which is very regrettable.

It's kinda weird how you attest to the fact that DCPS is taking steps to addres residency fraud and then regret that DCPS doesn't care about residency fraud. Even while you read about why there might be MD tags at drop off, and examples of DCPS enforcing proof of residency, you atre compelled to attend this thread which serves no purpose except kvetching about a) perceived overcrowding at your perceived elite public school, or b) perceived high percentage of brown-faced kids at your perceived elite public school.

There's really no other reason to raise such a high and pointless stink. There are no DC kids losing sests. Amidon Bowen, like many DCPS schools is under capacity. http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/Amidon-Bowen%20ES.pdf. While there may be residency cheaters, the number of DC residing kids cheated of a seat is zero.

I'm not the PP who wondered at the douchebaggery of people overly concerned about this, but will confirm said douchebaggery of people who think it's no big deal to take time off work, because said douchebags obviously don't work. I would say get a fucking life, but it seems this brand of lowlife has a critical dearth of aspiration. To me, that's actually more dire to our nation's future than the 3-5 families at my kids elementary school who may not live in DC. I'd much rather ridicule the ridiculous cheat brigade for as long as you have time and energy to post your ridiculous accusations than spend even a second persuing someone's MD license plate.

Get a real job, douchebags. One that pays you to show up and contribute something meaningful. You'll feel better about your sad life and provide a better example to your kids of what community and true citizenry means. Building the workforce is, after all, the reason for public schooling. I want my tax dollars ensuring that even the progeny of douchebags know how to, and know the value of, work.

No matter what douchebag neighborhood they come from.

I don't understand your point about taking time off work. Most white collar workers can take time during the middle of the day to do errands. Obviously fast food workers, auto workers, other blue collar cannot. It's weird you assume someone saying it's NBD to take time from work would be unemployed. I would assume they are in corporate law. Where do you work, where it's an impossibility to take a long lunch to go run an errand? Your post is super angry but not carefully considered.

[Anonymous]

I don't understand your point about taking time off work. Most white collar workers can take time during the middle of the day to do errands. Obviously fast food workers, auto workers, other blue collar cannot. It's weird you assume someone saying it's NBD to take time from work would be unemployed. I would assume they are in corporate law. Where do you work, where it's an impossibility to take a long lunch to go run an errand? Your post is super angry but not carefully considered.

Oh, so it's weird for me to make angry, judgmental assumptions about people based on my observations? I see.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Please. You would still be up in arms. Who cares how much proof is presented if a kid is riding in a car with MD tags?

And I'm really interested to learn how residency fraud is denying kids seats at Deal and Wilson. Everyone with a right to go to those schools has a right to go to those schools.

The hate-on for you people is that you're waving your bigotry around like can-can girls. I can believe that there's fraud going on, but it's probably happening in bigger numbers with people you're not even considering because, outwardly, they're people you deem acceptable. I'd wager there are more white DC residents fraudulently attending your school than PG county residents.

PP, you are waiving your ignorance. The law is the law; fraud is fraud. It doesn't care what you look like. Get over yourself, and act responsibly.

[Anonymous]

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I don't understand your point about taking time off work. Most white collar workers can take time during the middle of the day to do errands. Obviously fast food workers, auto workers, other blue collar cannot. It's weird you assume someone saying it's NBD to take time from work would be unemployed. I would assume they are in corporate law. Where do you work, where it's an impossibility to take a long lunch to go run an errand? Your post is super angry but not carefully considered.

Oh, so it's weird for me to make angry, judgmental assumptions about people based on my observations? I see.

I just didn't understand your logic. I've been in the (white collar) workforce for years and it has never been a problem for me to run errands during the workday provided I get the work done one way or another. Your post jumped around a lot. It sounds like you've made up your mind that people who are against residency cheating are racist, so you are determined to work yourself into an indignant rage in response. But in the process, you've lost the thread I think. Especially if you are the same person asking how cheating takes spots from others at Deal/Wilson. Obviously it takes spots away from OOB at the feeders.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Please. You would still be up in arms. Who cares how much proof is presented if a kid is riding in a car with MD tags?

And I'm really interested to learn how residency fraud is denying kids seats at Deal and Wilson. Everyone with a right to go to those schools has a right to go to those schools.

The hate-on for you people is that you're waving your bigotry around like can-can girls. I can believe that there's fraud going on, but it's probably happening in bigger numbers with people you're not even considering because, outwardly, they're people you deem acceptable. I'd wager there are more white DC residents fraudulently attending your school than PG county residents.

They just redistricted out of Deal whole neighborhoods that had fed to Deal for decades. Try telling those families that they are losing their rights to Deal because a number of MD fraudsters have burrowed in through other feeder schools.

[Anonymous]

The vehemence and vitriol with which some people attack those who bring up residency fraud raises the question of whether they, a family member or a close friend are involved in such fraud themselves.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Please. You would still be up in arms. Who cares how much proof is presented if a kid is riding in a car with MD tags?

And I'm really interested to learn how residency fraud is denying kids seats at Deal and Wilson. Everyone with a right to go to those schools has a right to go to those schools.

The hate-on for you people is that you're waving your bigotry around like can-can girls. I can believe that there's fraud going on, but it's probably happening in bigger numbers with people you're not even considering because, outwardly, they're people you deem acceptable. I'd wager there are more white DC residents fraudulently attending your school than PG county residents.

PP, you are waiving your ignorance. The law is the law; fraud is fraud. It doesn't care what you look like. Get over yourself, and act responsibly.

DP. I would say that you are waiving your bars and stripes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The vehemence and vitriol with which some people attack those who bring up residency fraud raises the question of whether they, a family member or a close friend are involved in such fraud themselves.

There it is. I've been waiting. If you disagree with me well then you must be a cheat. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Are these not for SES and excepted service positions? The district does not require 8 forms of documents (bank stubs, tax stubs, mortgage payments, credit card payments, etc from competitive service and low-wage workers). I read that list and it is a list made for people with high performing, educated, financially competitive applicants.

[Anonymous]

There's an easy, high-tech way for schools to nab fraudsters at drop off. DC should rotate and deploy some of those vehicles with the license plate scanners, which can run the registered owner and address of every vehicle dropping off at the school over several days. Then compare that list to the names of parents on file at the school. If they get hits for parents with vehicles registered to a MD address, then jump on it like a dog on a bone for further, focused investigation.

[Anonymous]

I'm not the PP who wondered at the douchebaggery of people overly concerned about this, but will confirm said douchebaggery of people who think it's no big deal to take time off work, because said douchebags obviously don't work. I would say get a fucking life, but it seems this brand of lowlife has a critical dearth of aspiration. To me, that's actually more dire to our nation's future than the 3-5 families at my kids elementary school who may not live in DC. I'd much rather ridicule the ridiculous cheat brigade for as long as you have time and energy to post your ridiculous accusations than spend even a second persuing someone's MD license plate.

Get a real job, douchebags. One that pays you to show up and contribute something meaningful. You'll feel better about your sad life and provide a better example to your kids of what community and true citizenry means. Building the workforce is, after all, the reason for public schooling. I want my tax dollars ensuring that even the progeny of douchebags know how to, and know the value of, work.

No matter what douchebag neighborhood they come from.

I am the PP and I think I love you.

And then of course, we're back to this:

There it is. I've been waiting. If you disagree with me well then you must be a cheat. LOL.

Or, we are just not massive douchebags who keep talking about PG county and Mayor Berry when we mean black people. Black people. At our schools! In Washington, DC! The humanity?

I don't understand your point about taking time off work. Most white collar workers can take time during the middle of the day to do errands. Obviously fast food workers, auto workers, other blue collar cannot. It's weird you assume someone saying it's NBD to take time from work would be unemployed. I would assume they are in corporate law. Where do you work, where it's an impossibility to take a long lunch to go run an errand? Your post is super angry but not carefully considered.

My HUSBAND is in corporate law, in fact. And yes, he has trouble taking off work during school hours. Could he do it? Yes, if necessary, but it would be a massive inconvenience.

And me? I don't work a white collar job. I work a job that requires me to be there, or else it all goes to hell. I know, being in charge of social media for the Heritage Foundation... they probably let you come in, whatevs, because you don't actually do all that much. But some of us do. If I'm not at my shift, someone else has to be. And that's not easy. I find it kind of offensive that you assume I must have a white collar job--as if that is some value of worth.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I know for a fact two recent hires in District govt who claim residency preference and yes they must show 8 forms of proof. And live in the District for the next 7 years or could be fired at will since they claimed preference. Seems like a good plan for school cheaters.

Are these not for SES and excepted service positions? The district does not require 8 forms of documents (bank stubs, tax stubs, mortgage payments, credit card payments, etc from competitive service and low-wage workers). I read that list and it is a list made for people with high performing, educated, financially competitive applicants.

I've registered cars in DC and my son just got his license. They ask for all sorts of documentation, yet people provide it. Why should it then be such a burden if various information is required for school registration, particularly if there is any doubt about DC residency?

[Anonymous]

The plate readers would be great!