FCPS comprehensive boundary review

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Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?


If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee
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Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.


Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.


It's also the farthest from WSHS.....


It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.


You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.


No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.


The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.


I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.


Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."



Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.


Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.


My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.


Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.


I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.


Many classrooms have been changed to offices, Leadership academy, interagency and other programs. They had to put all the theater costumes and supplies in shipping container outside because of lack of space.

Also the place is falling apart. It hasn’t had a substantial “renovation” since who knows when, cracks on the walls, buckled tiles, plumbing that’s as likely to squirt you as it is to work properly and when I was there last year I felt sick every day I was in the building and miraculously better when not in the building, but any mention of mold in the clearly dirty air vent got shut down immediately.

Tl;dr it’s not the mid-2000s anymore.


Annandale and McLean are older than Lewis and their next renovations should precede Lewis. Lewis shouldn’t leapfrog them in the next queue just because it might make the school more palatable to West Springfield families. All three got cheap “renovations” around 2005 that were far less extensive than the later renovations of schools built in the 1960s.

Honestly, sending some WS families to Lewis so they can experience those conditions first-hand might have a silver lining. Maybe then more people would object when dolts on the School Board like Karl Frisch want to waste $85 million on a new school in Dunn Loring for which there is no need - all while the needs of existing schools go unmet.


You shouldn't assume that West Springfield families support that stupid Dunn Loring school. It's actually a relatively conservative part of the county, partly because we have so many military families and retired military. No need to sacrifice some kids for kicks and giggles.
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Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.


Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.


It's also the farthest from WSHS.....


It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.


You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.


No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.


The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.


I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.


Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."



Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.


Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.


My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.


Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.


I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.


Many classrooms have been changed to offices, Leadership academy, interagency and other programs. They had to put all the theater costumes and supplies in shipping container outside because of lack of space.

Also the place is falling apart. It hasn’t had a substantial “renovation” since who knows when, cracks on the walls, buckled tiles, plumbing that’s as likely to squirt you as it is to work properly and when I was there last year I felt sick every day I was in the building and miraculously better when not in the building, but any mention of mold in the clearly dirty air vent got shut down immediately.

Tl;dr it’s not the mid-2000s anymore.


Annandale and McLean are older than Lewis and their next renovations should precede Lewis. Lewis shouldn’t leapfrog them in the next queue just because it might make the school more palatable to West Springfield families. All three got cheap “renovations” around 2005 that were far less extensive than the later renovations of schools built in the 1960s.

Honestly, sending some WS families to Lewis so they can experience those conditions first-hand might have a silver lining. Maybe then more people would object when dolts on the School Board like Karl Frisch want to waste $85 million on a new school in Dunn Loring for which there is no need - all while the needs of existing schools go unmet.


The people advocating using WSHS kids as pawns are coming up with crazier justifications.

The disdain for kids who just want to be left alone is unbelievable.
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Anonymous wrote:Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.
This leaked map just does not make sense.


But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.

"Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."

Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.

Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.

My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.

WS is currently well over its Design Capacity.

Parents will flip out if FCPS moves them from a high performing neighborhood school less than 10 minutes away, which does not feel crowded because the newly renovated classrooms are spacious and the overcapacity translates to only 1 or 2 additional students per classroom, that families actively selected knowing the size of the high school, to a low performing school across town over 20-25 minutes away, in an unrenivated building that currently feels crowded, where the rezoning ould put the new school far over capacity, more crowded than their neighborhood school due to smaller classrooms and hallways.

Can they support an extra 250+ students without overcrowding?

All of the above. There is no room in a crumbling, low performing HS for HVES students. Busses and student drivers going through the Mixing Bowl during both rush hours, no available student parking at Lewis, no AP or high level courses for students at Lewis. Lewis has been low performing for years, moving high performing students in to prop it up is Reid's solution?

Again, can someone please link to the leaked map(s)?
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Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?


If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


Wait, why are there people on the committee based on their race? This seems like it should be illegal but I could be wrong.
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Anonymous wrote:Again, can someone please link to the leaked map(s)?


Again, there are no leaked maps - just a troll posting what their "friend who works at gatehouse" supposedly told them, which "may or may not be right." They titled their post "leaked maps", but it was a text post full of rumors like many other posts in this thread.
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comprehensive boundary review is a made up rebranding from the 2019 board when Brabrand told the members that if they wanted to get buy in from the residents then they needed to stop using the The Nuclear Option when talking about Boundaries. they all laughed and came up with the phrase Comprehensive Review of Boundaries. They have wanted to do this for years
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Anonymous wrote:I can’t find the post with the “leaked maps” info— can anyone kindly tell me the the date/timestamp for it?


There are no leaked maps, just someone trolling.

There’s no way that map is real. It creates an overly complicated sweeping of schools in the middle of the county to sound legitimate so it can sneak in the two controversial Forestville and Hunt Valley moves.

1. Lewis can not absorb THREE elementary feeders.
2. Woodson and Oakton now have attendance islands.
3. Robinson can’t pick up Willow Springs and all of Oak Creek while only dropping Terra Centre. It will be overcrowded.
4. Annandale can’t pick up Ravensworth and Wakefield Forest while only dropping Weyanoke. It will be overcrowded.
5. Why would they remove a high school feeder from a newly expanded Falls Church HS without backfilling with another school.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?


If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


Wait, why are there people on the committee based on their race? This seems like it should be illegal but I could be wrong.


Because at the October 8, 2024 work session, available to view on Board Docs, Dr. Reid explicitly stated that she wanted the rezoning to be framed by One Fairfax, and for the Chief Equity Officer to have a major role in all facets of the rezoning decisions.

You will need to watch the video to confirm, but I believe FCPS also requested or asked Thru Consulting if they could fine tune their rezoning software to pull out demographic information down to the household level. Don't quote me on this, because I was half listening at this point and could have misunderstood. You will need to watch the video to see if this is accurate.

At the meeting though, Reid was very clear that equity was one of the most important, if not the most important, criteria for rezoning.

The committee selections support that FCPS is prioritizing equity during the rezoning process, above everything else.

If it was about improving school academics or fixing overcrowding, the committee assignments would consist of very different groups than the current mix.
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Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?


If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


Wait, why are there people on the committee based on their race? This seems like it should be illegal but I could be wrong.


You are not wrong. Boundary changes that are based on this committee’s recommendations based on its current make-up, publicly stated goals, and current process will NOT withstand judicial scrutiny.

FCPS is creating a huge headache for itself by inviting this unnecessary, tax-payer funded litigation.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Can we report Fairfax One to the White House DEI email? This will massively impact his federal workers. Can you picture Elon Musk showing up at Gatehouse?


If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


Also Vanessa, who is the epitome of a special interest rep but got added as a third rep from the Woodson pyramid even though every other pyramid except Fairfax (special case since it includes Fairfax City) only has two reps. It just shows how those who constantly suck up to the SB get rewarded while critics are shut out. Why didn’t the FCPA get a single seat?
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Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.


Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.


It's also the farthest from WSHS.....


It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.


You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.


No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.


The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.


I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.


Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."



Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.


Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.


My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.


Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.


I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.


Many classrooms have been changed to offices, Leadership academy, interagency and other programs. They had to put all the theater costumes and supplies in shipping container outside because of lack of space.

Also the place is falling apart. It hasn’t had a substantial “renovation” since who knows when, cracks on the walls, buckled tiles, plumbing that’s as likely to squirt you as it is to work properly and when I was there last year I felt sick every day I was in the building and miraculously better when not in the building, but any mention of mold in the clearly dirty air vent got shut down immediately.

Tl;dr it’s not the mid-2000s anymore.


Annandale and McLean are older than Lewis and their next renovations should precede Lewis. Lewis shouldn’t leapfrog them in the next queue just because it might make the school more palatable to West Springfield families. All three got cheap “renovations” around 2005 that were far less extensive than the later renovations of schools built in the 1960s.

Honestly, sending some WS families to Lewis so they can experience those conditions first-hand might have a silver lining. Maybe then more people would object when dolts on the School Board like Karl Frisch want to waste $85 million on a new school in Dunn Loring for which there is no need - all while the needs of existing schools go unmet.


The people advocating using WSHS kids as pawns are coming up with crazier justifications.

The disdain for kids who just want to be left alone is unbelievable.


The point was slightly facetious but the reality is that a lot of folks at the schools that received top-of-the-line renovations are indifferent to the shitty conditions at schools like Lewis. They got theirs, so if morons like Frisch want to waste tens of millions on an unnecessary vanity project it’s water off their backs.

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Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.


Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.


It's also the farthest from WSHS.....


It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.


You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.


No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.


The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.


I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.


Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."



Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.


Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.


My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.


Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.


I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.


Many classrooms have been changed to offices, Leadership academy, interagency and other programs. They had to put all the theater costumes and supplies in shipping container outside because of lack of space.

Also the place is falling apart. It hasn’t had a substantial “renovation” since who knows when, cracks on the walls, buckled tiles, plumbing that’s as likely to squirt you as it is to work properly and when I was there last year I felt sick every day I was in the building and miraculously better when not in the building, but any mention of mold in the clearly dirty air vent got shut down immediately.

Tl;dr it’s not the mid-2000s anymore.


Annandale and McLean are older than Lewis and their next renovations should precede Lewis. Lewis shouldn’t leapfrog them in the next queue just because it might make the school more palatable to West Springfield families. All three got cheap “renovations” around 2005 that were far less extensive than the later renovations of schools built in the 1960s.

Honestly, sending some WS families to Lewis so they can experience those conditions first-hand might have a silver lining. Maybe then more people would object when dolts on the School Board like Karl Frisch want to waste $85 million on a new school in Dunn Loring for which there is no need - all while the needs of existing schools go unmet.


The people advocating using WSHS kids as pawns are coming up with crazier justifications.

The disdain for kids who just want to be left alone is unbelievable.


The point was slightly facetious but the reality is that a lot of folks at the schools that received top-of-the-line renovations are indifferent to the shitty conditions at schools like Lewis. They got theirs, so if morons like Frisch want to waste tens of millions on an unnecessary vanity project it’s water off their backs.



You've got to be kidding.

The clueless arogance of this post is unbelievable.

No one wants his stupid boondoggle waste of taxpayer dollars.

Throwing hate at other people who have nothing to do with Frisch is not a good look.
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If you look at the BRAC committee, all of the superintendent special interest groups (roughly half the committee) are selected based of DEI requirements/One Fairfax.

Some, like the special ed reps and military family reps make perfect sense as they have some unique education issues that are tied to rezoning.

Others, such as the lbgtq representatives, should not be given special consideration or an elevated voice in the rezoning process, but are there just for "equity"


Here are the special interest groups that were given a voice on the rezoning committee:


Advanced Academic Programs Advisory Committee
Kirsten Maloney

Advisory Committee for Students with Disabilities (ACSD)
Nita Payton

Career and Technical Education Advisory Committee
Whitney Ketchledge

City of Fairfax Planning and Development
Eric Forman

Edu-Futuro
Ed Aponte

Facilities Planning Advisory Council
Cathy Hosek

Fairfax Alliance of Black School Educators (FABSE)
Laura Waterman

Fairfax Asian Educators Association
Young Lee

Fairfax Association of Elementary School Principals (FAESP)
Rebecca Forgy

Fairfax County Council of PTAs
Debbie Kilpatrick

Fairfax County Federation of Citizen Associations
Tim Thompson

Fairfax County Federation of Teachers
David Walrod
Susie Chavez
Yolanda Corado Cendejas

Fairfax County High School Principals’ Association (HSPA)
Ellen Reilly - High School
Lindsey Kearns - Secondary School

Fairfax County Special Education PTA (SEPTA)
Amanda Campbell
Lavanya Ravulapalli

Fairfax County Department of Planning & Development
Kelly Atkinson
(Tracey Strunk)

Fairfax Education Association
Leslie Houston
Kevin Hickerson
Nichole Landsdowne

Fairfax Hispanic Educators’ Association
Manny Gomez Portillo

Fairfax NAACP
Sujatha Hampton
Marquis Small

FCPS Pride: Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, Transgender and Allied Employees of FCPS
Robert Rigby

Geo Information Systems
Eric Posner

Middle School Principals’ Association (MSPA)
Drew Campbell

Minority Student Achievement Oversight Committee (MSAOC)
George Becerra

Neurodivergent Liberation Coalition
Jennifer Litton Tidd

Strategic Plan Advisory Group
Joe Miller

Superintendent's Military-Connected Family Advisory Group
Megan Dross

Title I Parent Advisory Committee[/b]
Courtney White

FCPS
Andy Mueck - Chief Operating Officer
Geovanny Ponce - Chief of Schools
Janice Szymanski - Chief of Facilities Services and Capital Planning
Jessica Gillis - Executive Director, Capital Improvements and Planning
Lisa Youngblood Hall - Chief Experience and Engagement Officer
[b]Nardos King - Chief Equity Officer

Paul D'Andrade - Executive Director, Transportation Services
Sloan Presidio - Chief Academic Officer

https://www.fcps.edu/members-superintendents-boundary-review-advisory-committee


I was curious and looked up a couple of those people. One of them has crude comments almost daily about Trump. "Nazi" type things and some vulgarity on her social media. Unhinged comments. Not run of the mill criticism. I don't understand how she can contribute anything that is level headed.
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Anonymous wrote:The “leaked” map creates even more high school attendance islands. Moving Waples Mill severs Oakton’s boundaries to Crossfield/Navy and Oakview to Robinson cuts off Woodson from Fairfax Villa. Also, why move Fairhill from newly expanded Falls Church HS (which also would be an attendance island to Fairfax HS?)

They’d need to drastically shift elementary school boundaries for any of this to make sense.


Hunt Valley is the farthest WSHS school from Lewis.

This leaked map just does not make sense.


It's also the farthest from WSHS.....


It doesn't make sense to me either, but if they are really looking to move a whole elementary school out of WSHS, Hunt Valley is the only option. I think there are better ways to alleviate the "crowding" (which I'm not fully convinced of) at WSHS, but nonetheless, if a whole elementary is gonna go, it's gonna be HV.


You really aren't making any sense.

If you were arguing to move HV to South County or Keene Mill to Lewis, you might have credibility.

But arguing that Hunt Valley should be moved past 5 other WSHS zoned elementary schools all the way to Lewis completely destroys any argument you have.


Makes perfect sense. The farthest school from WSHS should move to Lewis . How does that not make sense. We need more kids at Lewis, not South County. Stop with this argument.


No it doesn't.

They are the farthest elementary school to Lewis.


The person who is insistent on this has argued it for months and says that the entirety of the HV boundary should be bussed to key and Lewis because they are out of walking zone to WSHS and Irving.

I am a HV parent and plan to move but I’m thinking SC.

But I also don’t trust or believe Reid and I’m sure she already has a plan and will do what she wants.


I actually believe it’s more that there are a few school board members (Sandy Anderson, St John Cunning, McDaniel) who want to stick it to certain schools. I’m thinking that Reid and other school board members are just negligent bystanders. Though Robyn Lady is likely looking to get a boost in her own property value.

I really believe that the SB member’s kids should all be required to move schools as part of this process. Since they don’t see any downside to the changes they should be fine with this.


Sandy Anderson is not looking to stick it to HV. If anything, she reassured the dozens of HV parents who contacted her after that fake news article published last Summer about HVES moving to Lewis. Her office created a statement to the effect of "Lewis is not the closest or second closest HS to HVES, and HVES is not the closest or second closest WSHS pyramid ES to Lewis, so it would not make sense to move it to Lewis."



Honestly don’t know why the HVES rumor started. It physically cannot be all of HVES.

Lewis has ~230 extra seats right now. HVES is the largest ES in the WSHS pyramid and contributes ~500 HS students to WSHS. They are not going to move 500 kids into 230 seats.

It’s that simple.


Lewis current enrollment - 1631
Lewis design capacity (CIP) - 2139

Room for 508 more students. The number you are using is Program Capacity (the one that gives you 230 available seats), but that can grow or shrink.

The design capacity was expanded in the 2005 timeframe at the same time they ended up moving out over three hundred students in the wake of South County opening. In the 2005 timeframe Lee had around 2100 students. So they expanded it and then immediately moved out students so that the expansion was wasted. But they can fix that now.

County did a similar thing with Springfield Estates. It was overcrowded because of the AAP program. They expanded it to hold all of those students, then turned around and opened another AAP center in the Edison pyramid and pulling students away from Springfield Estates, wasting the expansion. This county has been a terrible steward of our tax dollars.


My point is that moving the entirety of HVES is not feasible.

Adding 500 kids to Lewis puts it at 113% program capacity and 100% design capacity. Why set up overcrowding? They’re more likely to nibble at the edges. Or move a smaller, closer school like WSES.


Despite what some CIP report says there’s not room for 500 more students at Lewis. 200-250 maybe but not 500.

But that’s the problem when you have internet experts who’ve never actually set foot in the spaces in question, I guess.


I used to teach at Lewis in the mid-2000s when they were at their peak size of 2100+ kids for a few years, before the first boundary change to remove Daventry. Has something changed about the building? Did some wings get permanently closed off or converted? Lewis currently has 1630 kids, and has definitely held it's building capacity above 2100.


Many classrooms have been changed to offices, Leadership academy, interagency and other programs. They had to put all the theater costumes and supplies in shipping container outside because of lack of space.

Also the place is falling apart. It hasn’t had a substantial “renovation” since who knows when, cracks on the walls, buckled tiles, plumbing that’s as likely to squirt you as it is to work properly and when I was there last year I felt sick every day I was in the building and miraculously better when not in the building, but any mention of mold in the clearly dirty air vent got shut down immediately.

Tl;dr it’s not the mid-2000s anymore.


Annandale and McLean are older than Lewis and their next renovations should precede Lewis. Lewis shouldn’t leapfrog them in the next queue just because it might make the school more palatable to West Springfield families. All three got cheap “renovations” around 2005 that were far less extensive than the later renovations of schools built in the 1960s.

Honestly, sending some WS families to Lewis so they can experience those conditions first-hand might have a silver lining. Maybe then more people would object when dolts on the School Board like Karl Frisch want to waste $85 million on a new school in Dunn Loring for which there is no need - all while the needs of existing schools go unmet.


The people advocating using WSHS kids as pawns are coming up with crazier justifications.

The disdain for kids who just want to be left alone is unbelievable.


The point was slightly facetious but the reality is that a lot of folks at the schools that received top-of-the-line renovations are indifferent to the shitty conditions at schools like Lewis. They got theirs, so if morons like Frisch want to waste tens of millions on an unnecessary vanity project it’s water off their backs.



Unless they are bored enough to visit this forum regularly, most fcps residents don't know who Frisch is and have never even heard of his pet project of Dunn Loring elementary.

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