Charlie Kirk shot at Utah Valley University

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I didn't believe in the set up idea, I am still not sure, but those texts are ridiculous. No way a 22 year old writes like that.

Can someone summarize the leading conspiracies?

In a nutshell I think Tyler and Lance were hired by Kirk and/or were also CIA. I think they retrieved domestic/foreign intel requested by Kirk. These individuals found out their account has been accessed and data retrieved, they’re tracked down Tyler and Lance via Kirk possibly or who knows. Someone acting as Kirk’s assistant or asset told Tyler to meet him/her on the rooftop that day for something, perhaps payment for retrieval of the data. Tyler went to the rooftop to meet this person, no one showed up, shot was fired, Kirk bled out, Tyler realized people down below were looking at him and pointing, he’s now a suspect.

This really sounds like a bad movie script. I agree that the texts defy belief but I don't know how you get here except via Tom Clancy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He was framed, seemingly by an impulsive amateur. Let’s compare his normal texts with these incriminating ones.

At the very least the NYT should be able to show us the whole Discord chat and see if the styles match.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I heard that the killer was a gay with a trans boyfriend. Is that true or internet rumor?

It’s true. This guy is beyond despicable.

Can you spell out what you mean by this?

Just so we are all clear on how loving and accepting the ideology of Charlie Kirk followers is.

It's not a secret that Christians usually believe, consistent with biblical teachings, that homosexuality is a sin.

[Anonymous]

I believe the lone gunman theory in this case just as much as I do in the case of JFK, RFK, and MLK's assassination.

[Anonymous]

What was up with the plain clothes security guards around Kirk? They were doing a flurry of hand signals right before the shooting.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DOohYvJCinw

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I didn't believe in the set up idea, I am still not sure, but those texts are ridiculous. No way a 22 year old writes like that.

Can someone summarize the leading conspiracies?

In a nutshell I think Tyler and Lance were hired by Kirk and/or were also CIA. I think they retrieved domestic/foreign intel requested by Kirk. These individuals found out their account has been accessed and data retrieved, they’re tracked down Tyler and Lance via Kirk possibly or who knows. Someone acting as Kirk’s assistant or asset told Tyler to meet him/her on the rooftop that day for something, perhaps payment for retrieval of the data. Tyler went to the rooftop to meet this person, no one showed up, shot was fired, Kirk bled out, Tyler realized people down below were looking at him and pointing, he’s now a suspect.

This really sounds like a bad movie script. I agree that the texts defy belief but I don't know how you get here except via Tom Clancy.

It’s not a bad movie script, it’s a real life actual nightmare.

[Anonymous]

The most plausible theory is not that the FBI came up with this third rate romance level text language, but that TR and the boyfriend did, perhaps weeks ago, to save the boyfriend’s skin.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most plausible theory is not that the FBI came up with this third rate romance level text language, but that TR and the boyfriend did, perhaps weeks ago, to save the boyfriend’s skin.

No, someone forced Tyler to incriminate himself in those texts.

[Anonymous]

Falsely ^^

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Somethings suspicious about her relationship with Charlie and I’m sure it will come out in the wash. Maybe Candace Owens or someone else will look into it. Somethings off with her reaction to this whole tragedy

The farewell to Charlie video that Candace Owens posted seemed much more like what a wife would post than the weird thing Erika posted with her kissing his embalmed hands.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:He was framed, seemingly by an impulsive amateur. Let’s compare his normal texts with these incriminating ones.

At the very least the NYT should be able to show us the whole Discord chat and see if the styles match.

Yes we need to see his normal text speak.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The most plausible theory is not that the FBI came up with this third rate romance level text language, but that TR and the boyfriend did, perhaps weeks ago, to save the boyfriend’s skin.

Or, they could have just had zero text exchanges. That would also save the boyfriend's skin.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I really wish I had not clicked on that video. It was beyond horrible.

It’s just awful. That poor guy was assassinated for being conservative.

Melissa Hortman and Mark Hortman. Only states declared flags at half staff for them. The White House flag remained at full staff.

Yuck

[Anonymous]

I find it hard to believe that a chronically online, meme-poisoned 22 year old would write texts in the style of a Ken Burns civil war campfire letter.

Not a single emoji or cryptic abbreviation that we old folks have to Google?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:He was framed, seemingly by an impulsive amateur. Let’s compare his normal texts with these incriminating ones.

At the very least the NYT should be able to show us the whole Discord chat and see if the styles match.

Yes we need to see his normal text speak.

What the NYT quotes sounds more like normal 20-something speak. But it's hard because they don't quote the whole exchange.
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