Meghan and Prince Harry are moving to the U.S./Canada - OFFICIAL

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

That sounds like a formality. They're not going to be able to shed the association no matter what, it's permanently attached forever. And they haven't even moved yet.

The difference is if they are stripped of titles they can't use them in the future (you know, to profit off of them). The monarchy OWNS the titles and H and M shouldln't benefity financially going forward by using them. If people associate them with it fine. But THEY shouldn't keep the IG handle nad website with Sussex Royal. They don't want that life i thought?

But that’s true of any of the non working royals. And how exactly do you directly monetize a title?

Using the offical title on things like IG, blogs, websites and getting money from advertising. Really? Do you not know how branding and social media work no days?

Their fame is bigger than their titles, at this point. Europe is full of people with titles that no one has ever heard of. Everyone knows Meghan and Harry. They don't need their titles for financial gain at this point.

Don't agree. Without the titles, no one cares. They're famous because of Anglophiles, because of Royal watchers.

Without that, their star will fade very quickly. That might please Harry but won't please Meghan.

+1 And knowing this split was coming it is obvious they trademarked Sussex Royal to use it for branding and merchandising exclusively for their own financial gain. Pretty conniving in both of their parts if they truly wanted to gain financial independence or break from the Crown.

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Anonymous wrote:do you want to see not see a difference between being in formerly known as Prince Harry and cashing in on a royal title that you no longer work for but want to use for a personal profit?

Put down the glass and get some sleep. You’re not making any sense.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

That sounds like a formality. They're not going to be able to shed the association no matter what, it's permanently attached forever. And they haven't even moved yet.

The difference is if they are stripped of titles they can't use them in the future (you know, to profit off of them). The monarchy OWNS the titles and H and M shouldln't benefity financially going forward by using them. If people associate them with it fine. But THEY shouldn't keep the IG handle nad website with Sussex Royal. They don't want that life i thought?

But that’s true of any of the non working royals. And how exactly do you directly monetize a title?

Using the offical title on things like IG, blogs, websites and getting money from advertising. Really? Do you not know how branding and social media work no days?

Their fame is bigger than their titles, at this point. Europe is full of people with titles that no one has ever heard of. Everyone knows Meghan and Harry. They don't need their titles for financial gain at this point.

Don't agree. Without the titles, no one cares. They're famous because of Anglophiles, because of Royal watchers.

Without that, their star will fade very quickly. That might please Harry but won't please Meghan.

I mean people aren’t going to forget that he’s Charles and Dianna’s son.

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I am not sure why they think they can do this 100% on their own terms. They didn't make these decisions jointly with the family so to say we are leaving but we are keeping Frogmore, keeping our allowance, and we still do a few events of our choice.

I am not sure the Queen or Charles will be on board with this pick and choose your own $ and life approach. You don't stay in people's good books by making instagram posts and not consulting the hand that feeds you.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

That sounds like a formality. They're not going to be able to shed the association no matter what, it's permanently attached forever. And they haven't even moved yet.

The difference is if they are stripped of titles they can't use them in the future (you know, to profit off of them). The monarchy OWNS the titles and H and M shouldln't benefity financially going forward by using them. If people associate them with it fine. But THEY shouldn't keep the IG handle nad website with Sussex Royal. They don't want that life i thought?

But that’s true of any of the non working royals. And how exactly do you directly monetize a title?

Using the offical title on things like IG, blogs, websites and getting money from advertising. Really? Do you not know how branding and social media work no days?

Their fame is bigger than their titles, at this point. Europe is full of people with titles that no one has ever heard of. Everyone knows Meghan and Harry. They don't need their titles for financial gain at this point.

Don't agree. Without the titles, no one cares. They're famous because of Anglophiles, because of Royal watchers.

Without that, their star will fade very quickly. That might please Harry but won't please Meghan.

Sure Just keep telling yourself that. Harry will ALWAYS BE A PRINCE. He was born a Prince, by blood he's a PRINCE. There is no way in the world, anyone, anywhere, is EVER going to think of him as anything other than "Prince Harry". Saying something over and over does not make it true.

Prince yes, Duke no. The titles Duke and Duchess of Sussex were a wedding gift from the Queen. She could easily take them back or change them to something else.

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they setting up residence in two separate countries if they are so concerned about climate change...with air travel being a key contributor to that...

Yes, as long as we're judging their decision that was the only part that rankled to me. They just renovated that Frogmore House for $3 million at taxpayer expense and now they're moving, but also keeping that house in the UK so they have somewhere to come back to when they visit? I know they're rich, but what a waste.

They don't own that estate and probably had no say in it except some input on the design. No one probably asked them what they wanted and they were told this is where they are living.

If that’s the case, then give it up and let someone else live there. There’s no need for them to keep it as an expensive taxpayer funded British second home

You should read their website. It covers the renovation costs at Frogmore (paid for by the Queen, not taxpayer funds). ‘They’ (meaning the stipend from Charles, paid for the interior design. Granted, this is their side of the story, so who knows.

That being said, yes, they will only be permitted to call Frogmore home if the queen allows it. The spin on the site is well done. The theme is essentially ‘we would like our cake and eat it too, and ensure our son is duly recognized as a senior royal.

Harry's not even the spare anymore. The minute Charlotte was born he became a nobody in terms of lineage. He is literally Andrew of the family.

And yet even Andrew retains his titles and a property given by the Queen. Oh and his married daughter lives in housing provided by the Queen. Same goes for Anne. This is the system. If you don’t think that random non-working royals should retain titles and use of properties then that should be true of everyone besides the direct line of succession.

1. Anne is a working Royal (her children are not) and do not have titles
2. You think Andrew's children should be punished because he is a creep?
3. I hate Andrew and 100% think he should be stripped of his titles and perks, but don't think his kids should

Regardless of his behavior, Andrew's kids are not working royals.

I think they want to be working royals but Charles wants to nudge them out to the land of freedom. There was some talk about this last year when apparently Andrew wanted to ensure their future as working royals (with the housing and allowances) and the Palace was saying, errr, let's talk.

I know this thread is on the 40th page and no matter what people think about Meghan and Harry individually, surely we must agree the way they made the announcement seems a bit crass? Apparently the palace (Charles and granny) were not notified in advance.... which is very bad form.

If Beatrice and Eugenie wanted to be working royals, they could have thrown themselves into charitable work once they became adults and thus made the case for it themselves. Maybe I just haven't seen news coverage of it, but I can't recall reading anything about them every doing anything particularly noteworthy. They don't have professional careers or big jobs, do they? Seems like they have had plenty of time to devote good works, but they haven't. The public might shown up to Eugenie's wedding procession if she had shown any concern for people in need.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that the Queen controls ALL $$ of the Royal family. She’s the QUEEN. She is also vindictive and controlling— a person from another age.
How this will turn out? She will cut Harry off financially. Let’s face it he’s not interesting in himself. He’s interesting as a royal.
MM has star power and will do something celebrity like in the US. Being a princess is just one notch in her belt.
Harry and Archie will pay the price. If Harry cuts her loose or the other way around Harry will crawl back to the Royal family.
Who knows maybe they were already running from Royal vindictiveness.

Do you hear yourself? Vindictive and controlling? She’ the BLOODY QUEEN. Her job is to preserve the monarchy. Harry and Meghan would have been charged with treason and sent to the tower in another era. They still might be charged with treason if it’s proven they’ve disobeyed a direct order or undermined the Queen.

Meghan thinks she can outwit the Queen? I think not. Get your popcorn.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

That sounds like a formality. They're not going to be able to shed the association no matter what, it's permanently attached forever. And they haven't even moved yet.

The difference is if they are stripped of titles they can't use them in the future (you know, to profit off of them). The monarchy OWNS the titles and H and M shouldln't benefity financially going forward by using them. If people associate them with it fine. But THEY shouldn't keep the IG handle nad website with Sussex Royal. They don't want that life i thought?

But that’s true of any of the non working royals. And how exactly do you directly monetize a title?

Using the offical title on things like IG, blogs, websites and getting money from advertising. Really? Do you not know how branding and social media work no days?

Their fame is bigger than their titles, at this point. Europe is full of people with titles that no one has ever heard of. Everyone knows Meghan and Harry. They don't need their titles for financial gain at this point.

Don't agree. Without the titles, no one cares. They're famous because of Anglophiles, because of Royal watchers.

Without that, their star will fade very quickly. That might please Harry but won't please Meghan.

Sure Just keep telling yourself that. Harry will ALWAYS BE A PRINCE. He was born a Prince, by blood he's a PRINCE. There is no way in the world, anyone, anywhere, is EVER going to think of him as anything other than "Prince Harry". Saying something over and over does not make it true.

Prince yes, Duke no. The titles Duke and Duchess of Sussex were a wedding gift from the Queen. She could easily take them back or change them to something else.

I mean yes she could do that. But why...that doesn’t benefit her in any way and will just raise the whole Andrew issue again when people start to ask why she stripped their titles but not the guy who at the very least (I personally think he is a rapist) was hanging out with a convicted pedophile. Has she every stripped anyone’s titles? Harry being a jerk does not seem like enough of a reason to start now.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that the Queen controls ALL $$ of the Royal family. She’s the QUEEN. She is also vindictive and controlling— a person from another age.
How this will turn out? She will cut Harry off financially. Let’s face it he’s not interesting in himself. He’s interesting as a royal.
MM has star power and will do something celebrity like in the US. Being a princess is just one notch in her belt.
Harry and Archie will pay the price. If Harry cuts her loose or the other way around Harry will crawl back to the Royal family.
Who knows maybe they were already running from Royal vindictiveness.

Do you hear yourself? Vindictive and controlling? She’ the BLOODY QUEEN. Her job is to preserve the monarchy. Harry and Meghan would have been charged with treason and sent to the tower in another era. They still might be charged with treason if it’s proven they’ve disobeyed a direct order or undermined the Queen.

Meghan thinks she can outwit the Queen? I think not. Get your popcorn.

Ouf. I really hope you are a troll.

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MM is much like Harry’s mom Diana. Crazy, beautiful, endlessly attention seeking. Harry found his mom again

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Anonymous wrote:Why are they setting up residence in two separate countries if they are so concerned about climate change...with air travel being a key contributor to that...

Yes, as long as we're judging their decision that was the only part that rankled to me. They just renovated that Frogmore House for $3 million at taxpayer expense and now they're moving, but also keeping that house in the UK so they have somewhere to come back to when they visit? I know they're rich, but what a waste.

They don't own that estate and probably had no say in it except some input on the design. No one probably asked them what they wanted and they were told this is where they are living.

If that’s the case, then give it up and let someone else live there. There’s no need for them to keep it as an expensive taxpayer funded British second home

You should read their website. It covers the renovation costs at Frogmore (paid for by the Queen, not taxpayer funds). ‘They’ (meaning the stipend from Charles, paid for the interior design. Granted, this is their side of the story, so who knows.

That being said, yes, they will only be permitted to call Frogmore home if the queen allows it. The spin on the site is well done. The theme is essentially ‘we would like our cake and eat it too, and ensure our son is duly recognized as a senior royal.

Harry's not even the spare anymore. The minute Charlotte was born he became a nobody in terms of lineage. He is literally Andrew of the family.

And yet even Andrew retains his titles and a property given by the Queen. Oh and his married daughter lives in housing provided by the Queen. Same goes for Anne. This is the system. If you don’t think that random non-working royals should retain titles and use of properties then that should be true of everyone besides the direct line of succession.

1. Anne is a working Royal (her children are not) and do not have titles
2. You think Andrew's children should be punished because he is a creep?
3. I hate Andrew and 100% think he should be stripped of his titles and perks, but don't think his kids should

Regardless of his behavior, Andrew's kids are not working royals.

I think they want to be working royals but Charles wants to nudge them out to the land of freedom. There was some talk about this last year when apparently Andrew wanted to ensure their future as working royals (with the housing and allowances) and the Palace was saying, errr, let's talk.

I know this thread is on the 40th page and no matter what people think about Meghan and Harry individually, surely we must agree the way they made the announcement seems a bit crass? Apparently the palace (Charles and granny) were not notified in advance.... which is very bad form.

If Beatrice and Eugenie wanted to be working royals, they could have thrown themselves into charitable work once they became adults and thus made the case for it themselves. Maybe I just haven't seen news coverage of it, but I can't recall reading anything about them every doing anything particularly noteworthy. They don't have professional careers or big jobs, do they? Seems like they have had plenty of time to devote good works, but they haven't. The public might shown up to Eugenie's wedding procession if she had shown any concern for people in need.

+1

They don’t care about charity. Eugenie has an ok career in the art world. Bea is kind of the wild child and I think has some sort of non serious job that allows her to go on vacations a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:My understanding is that the Queen controls ALL $$ of the Royal family. She’s the QUEEN. She is also vindictive and controlling— a person from another age.
How this will turn out? She will cut Harry off financially. Let’s face it he’s not interesting in himself. He’s interesting as a royal.
MM has star power and will do something celebrity like in the US. Being a princess is just one notch in her belt.
Harry and Archie will pay the price. If Harry cuts her loose or the other way around Harry will crawl back to the Royal family.
Who knows maybe they were already running from Royal vindictiveness.

Do you hear yourself? Vindictive and controlling? She’ the BLOODY QUEEN. Her job is to preserve the monarchy. Harry and Meghan would have been charged with treason and sent to the tower in another era. They still might be charged with treason if it’s proven they’ve disobeyed a direct order or undermined the Queen.

Meghan thinks she can outwit the Queen? I think not. Get your popcorn.

Ouf. I really hope you are a troll.

Nope. Treason is still on the books.

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Anonymous wrote:It's fascinating (and telling) that most people are harping much more on Meghan's family dysfunction, and not Harry's. Even with what we DO know (and no doubt there are still many, many family secrets), Harry's seems far more filled with issues than Meghan's.

Perhaps these two found comfort in each other, and relate to each other. Good for them for wanting to distance themselves from the drama and change things going forward.

yes!! GREAT for them! But then give back the titles, the IG handle, the website, the things paid for by the Duchy (pretty much everything) and go on your way.
No one is saying they shouldn't leave. It is more like, you want leave? Ok. Leave the perks at the door. Thanks!

That sounds like a formality. They're not going to be able to shed the association no matter what, it's permanently attached forever. And they haven't even moved yet.

The difference is if they are stripped of titles they can't use them in the future (you know, to profit off of them). The monarchy OWNS the titles and H and M shouldln't benefity financially going forward by using them. If people associate them with it fine. But THEY shouldn't keep the IG handle nad website with Sussex Royal. They don't want that life i thought?

But that’s true of any of the non working royals. And how exactly do you directly monetize a title?

Using the offical title on things like IG, blogs, websites and getting money from advertising. Really? Do you not know how branding and social media work no days?

Their fame is bigger than their titles, at this point. Europe is full of people with titles that no one has ever heard of. Everyone knows Meghan and Harry. They don't need their titles for financial gain at this point.

Don't agree. Without the titles, no one cares. They're famous because of Anglophiles, because of Royal watchers.

Without that, their star will fade very quickly. That might please Harry but won't please Meghan.

+1 And knowing this split was coming it is obvious they trademarked Sussex Royal to use it for branding and merchandising exclusively for their own financial gain. Pretty conniving in both of their parts if they truly wanted to gain financial independence or break from the Crown.

Or, instead of exclusively for their own financial gain, they're also doing it for the benefit of their philanthropic efforts. But that wouldn't fit your narrative, would it?

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I can’t believe people really think MM and Harry’s “star” will “fade” in the US. Y’all nuts. Americans love royalty, do not really understand the Prince vs Duke thing, do not really care about line of succession, and love MM. Have you guys seen mainstream American media twitter about this? They are overcome with giddiness about MM coming closer to home.

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Remember how Diana used to say she wasn’t smart? Maybe Harry inherited that. The Queen is smart. She will think of a way to punish them. But with the iron hand in the velvet glove.