School residency cheaters investigated

[Anonymous]

Which of you jokers posted this over on POPville with the "huge portion of DC schools students actually live in Maryland” lede?

HUGE?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

which wouldn't be a problem if they paid out of state tuition as legally stipulated. The problem lies in failure to cede lottery position behind DC residents, and of course to actually pay the required tuition which rarely ever gets remitted.

For all the bitching and moaning on this board about spots in "JKLM" or "HRCS", the real losers here are DC families at the bottom of wait lists for schools like DC PREP and KIPP. That's probably impacting more impoverished DC residents who not only get screwed with lousy neighborhood schools but lose out to PG residents taking spots at preferred and more convenient charters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Well, she is a DC taxpayer.

You can have only once legal residence, regardless if one owns property and pays certain taxes in other jurisdictions. Based on all indications, her legal residence is in Maryland.

you pay income taxes in DC you're a DC resident. end of story

But if you're a DC resident, then your MD drivers license is a fraud, right?

yes. you are required to get a DC license and register your car in DC within a set amount of time. Maybe they need to demand to see that.

If you don't park on the street and don't require RPP it's unlikely to ever be an issue.

DC law actually still does require you to do this even if you have off street parking. Its just never enforced.

[Anonymous]

from the DMV website:
If you park or operate a vehicle in public space in the District of Columbia for 30 consecutive days, the vehicle must be registered and display a valid DC DMV inspection sticker and tags.

Please note its not just parking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Which of you jokers posted this over on POPville with the "huge portion of DC schools students actually live in Maryland” lede?

HUGE?

The PoPville commenters are having a collective aneurysm right now. A few people have already accidentally revealed that they are not paying DC taxes or registering their cars to the District. They're already eating their own!

http://www.popville.com/2016/07/dcps-maryland-residents/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This is among the more distressing (and depressing) sections of the series:

"New parents are often warned by old-timers not to bother trying to stop residency fraud because DCPS and OSSE won’t do anything about it.

“Be patient. The DCPS administrators have to work through the list of D.C. government employees who reside in Maryland first,” when it comes to moving up the waiting list, one posted on a listserv for city moms.

“You can have all the documentation you want, sadly, nothing will happen. I have taken photos of one family’s MD license plates at a Deal feeder and at Deal. I have given the names of the students and the address used in the school’s directory. It is well known to kids’ friends that they live in MD but grandparents live in DC. Classic,” another wrote.

One claiming to be a school administrator wrote, “Believe me, not only will the staff not want to act on your information, but we will never forget who ‘helpfully tried to bring it to our attention.’ And if we can make things administratively difficult for your family? We will.”

Those who try to report possible fraud often seemed more fearful than those possibly perpetuating fraud


Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/06/d-c-not-interested-in-stopping-maryland-fraudsters-stealing-its-schools/#ixzz4Dq19tuch

It's a bad system all around. DCPS should obviously ask for more serious residency documents up front, as some of the suburban school districts do. Arlington and MoCo require parents enrolling children in their schools to sign residency verification forms in which they swear to live in a primary residence. Not a bad idea. Setting the verification bar ridiculously low, then leaving it for parents to report possible fraud is definitely not the way to go. Contact your City Council Member's office if you want a new, more rigorous residency verification system in place. Bitching here won't get us anywhere.

HAHA! Do you really think that do-nothing loser Charles Allen will do anything? Please. He's all photo-op and nothing of substance. He is utterly worthless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:from the DMV website:
If you park or operate a vehicle in public space in the District of Columbia for 30 consecutive days, the vehicle must be registered and display a valid DC DMV inspection sticker and tags.

Please note its not just parking.

Not to mention that if a vehicle is really kept in the District but the operator maintains tags and insurance in another jurisdiction to save on insurance costs, that could be considered insurance fraud and at a minimum lead to a denial of coverage in the event of a claim.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

Oooh! I like your research!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from the DMV website:
If you park or operate a vehicle in public space in the District of Columbia for 30 consecutive days, the vehicle must be registered and display a valid DC DMV inspection sticker and tags.

Please note its not just parking.

Not to mention that if a vehicle is really kept in the District but the operator maintains tags and insurance in another jurisdiction to save on insurance costs, that could be considered insurance fraud and at a minimum lead to a denial of coverage in the event of a claim.

For someone like myself who just move to the District from MD, I'm not switching over my tags until the car is paid off. I'm just not going to pay taxes on my car twice.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from the DMV website:
If you park or operate a vehicle in public space in the District of Columbia for 30 consecutive days, the vehicle must be registered and display a valid DC DMV inspection sticker and tags.

Please note its not just parking.

Not to mention that if a vehicle is really kept in the District but the operator maintains tags and insurance in another jurisdiction to save on insurance costs, that could be considered insurance fraud and at a minimum lead to a denial of coverage in the event of a claim.

For someone like myself who just move to the District from MD, I'm not switching over my tags until the car is paid off. I'm just not going to pay taxes on my car twice.

So you're ok breaking the law then? Keep it classy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

which wouldn't be a problem if they paid out of state tuition as legally stipulated. The problem lies in failure to cede lottery position behind DC residents, and of course to actually pay the required tuition which rarely ever gets remitted.

For all the bitching and moaning on this board about spots in "JKLM" or "HRCS", the real losers here are DC families at the bottom of wait lists for schools like DC PREP and KIPP. That's probably impacting more impoverished DC residents who not only get screwed with lousy neighborhood schools but lose out to PG residents taking spots at preferred and more convenient charters.

+1. This is very true.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

Oooh! I like your research!

Nothing to see here. Move along. Mind your own business. Keep your head down. Go along to get along. It the ol' DC way.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

Oooh! I like your research!

Good thinking to look in these numbers! Question: Seems like ages 5-10 is 6 years worth of children, but K-4 is only 5 grades. Is there a mismatch?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The census estimated there were 38,522 children aged 5-10 in DC in 2015. DCPS and charters reported 38,421 children enrolled in grades K-4 in 2015/16. In 2010, the American Community Survey estimated there were 4,784 DC children enrolled in private K-4. Doesn't capture home schooling. Even with margins of error and declines in private school enrollment since 2010, seems like DC has a couple thousand more kids enrolled in school than are in the census for DC.

Oooh! I like your research!

Good thinking to look in these numbers! Question: Seems like ages 5-10 is 6 years worth of children, but K-4 is only 5 grades. Is there a mismatch?

p/p -- no a typo in the second stat -- the census is age 5-10; DCPS + Charter is K-5; ACS is K-4. Sorry!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:from the DMV website:
If you park or operate a vehicle in public space in the District of Columbia for 30 consecutive days, the vehicle must be registered and display a valid DC DMV inspection sticker and tags.

Please note its not just parking.

Not to mention that if a vehicle is really kept in the District but the operator maintains tags and insurance in another jurisdiction to save on insurance costs, that could be considered insurance fraud and at a minimum lead to a denial of coverage in the event of a claim.

For someone like myself who just move to the District from MD, I'm not switching over my tags until the car is paid off. I'm just not going to pay taxes on my car twice.

I'm no expert on this, but if you are referring to the excise tax, a quick google search shows a long list of exemptions, including this:

"Vehicles moving to DC But only if:
Vehicle was registered or titled in another state by the owner, before the owner established residency in the District."