HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are you people so full of vitriol?

In contrast, those of us who are actually mourning the loss of life and the destruction of lives are just trying to do what we can to pull ourselves together and take it day by day. You disgust me with your pitchfork sharpening. It won't make your lives better or your children safer. Perhaps there are too many people cackling about other peoples' misfortune. I really, really don't think you understand the pain some of us are feeling.

If you want to try to turn this witch hunt around do this: get the hell off of here and go give your kids a hug. They are alive, haven't made any deadly mistakes, and will most likely see tomorrow. Spend your time with them instead of on here doing this.

Sorry for your loss.

You're right. I think many people turn their fear and sadness over the unnecessary loss of life into vitriol, hoping somehow they can inoculate themselves and those close to them from ever experiencing something similar. It's not very rational or fair to people who are suffering.

[Anonymous]

It is not witch hunting. The name of the family that hosted the party and the person that bought the alcohol should be published just the same as the driver's name was published.
In my opinion, these people are even more guilty.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not witch hunting. The name of the family that hosted the party and the person that bought the alcohol should be published just the same as the driver's name was published.
In my opinion, these people are even more guilty.

Agree 100%.

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Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Not that poster and I don't know about the beer, but there has been a rash of garage burglaries in the afternoons in this exact neighborhood (Stonebridge, Dufief). Call the first district police station and ask. People actually are that stupid. Cars and garage doors are often left unlocked around here. And the culprits are teens.

Could you please post a link of some sort indicating that these culprits are teens? Any consequences for them?

Zero.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It is not witch hunting. The name of the family that hosted the party and the person that bought the alcohol should be published just the same as the driver's name was published.
In my opinion, these people are even more guilty.

For them to be guilty, they first have to be charged with something.

If/when they are charged with something, it will be in the news. Then your desires for punishment can begin to be satisfied.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is called Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor (but 18 is not a minor... so there is that)

But as you can see, most likely MoCO is not going to charge this, maybe, but most likely not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/03/AR2007070302331.html

The idea of putting people in jail for non-violent offenses (like giving alcohol to a minor, or selling drugs) is not the way the tide is turning... see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/13/obama-inmates-freed_n_7786126.html

I guess we have to wait until it's the child (or close friend) of someone with political power to curb teen drinking and driving.

Personally, I wish they would just provide more things for teens to do on a Saturday night besides parties. The movies and going out to eat... that is it. There is NOTHING for a teen to do on a Saturday night. A teacher in MoCo tried to start a "safe" party with dancing and MoCo parents posted picture of kids dancing which looked a little provocative, they called and complained and threatened to sue and he shut it down. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Too bad, it's a shame.

I know schools go to great length to provide a safe party after proms but 1/2 the kids don't go and the ones that don't go make fun of the kids that do. They go to the dance for 1 hour and then go party, that should should not be allowed.

Why not send them into DC? The Capital Fringe Festival is happening right now and there are a ton of wonderful shows to catch. You can drop them off at a metro station, and then pick them up from the station when they return.

My kids go to Caps/Nat games, concerts, festivals, Merriweather ( but there are tons of drugs), July 4th (tons of drugs and drinking), Filmore (there was a rapper that grew up in Gaithersburg there), Nissan Pavilion etc.... it is great... if you have unlimited funds. Sure you can find stuff to do, but kids just want to hang out somewhere and be with their friends. They need a safe place to do that, that does not cost $17 for every 1.5 hours.

I am actually lucky because my kids fish/kayak/rock climb. They can do that for free basically, every single day and be tired enough to not go out. I do pay for indoor climbs though. Also, ski club in the winter $$$$.

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Anonymous wrote:The lynch mob wants everyone else to list the names, report the people, make sure everyone pays, etc. How about just parenting your OWN kids first? Try that. Talk to them and find out what it going on. It's what I do and it works.

What's that you say... you're kids won't tell you or will lie to you? Perhaps you should do less internet finger wagging and more talking to your kids, listening to them, treating them like autonomous human beings, giving them opportunities to make decisions in the first place. How about that?

It's not a lynch mob mentality. We want to keep our kids safe (and other people's kids!). Why do you feel like it's ok to deflect the blame? The whole point is they broke the law. People died.

Because the truth is ... what you are suggesting won't keep your kids safe, they will drink and smoke pot, it will just be at the Canal, or on a lot that has not been built on yet, or at the park down the street.

and the other truth is... that "hypothetically"... the alcohol was not drank at that party, it was drank after they left, after they got home, checked in and pretended to go to sleep and left the house through a window, without their parent permission.

Spoken like a parent who hosts many of his/her kids parties

Great job keeping your kids "safe" because you *know* where they are drinking!

Moron.

Nice try. I am just a parent that does not leave it up to MoCo police or other parents being in jail to know where my kids are hanging out. I also know what happens when you try to track their every movement, or how much kids lie. I also know that no matter how much parents try, unless you lock your windows with a key and have alarms on all your doors, you virtually have little or no control over an 18yo that is leaving for college in 4 weeks.

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Anonymous wrote:The lynch mob wants everyone else to list the names, report the people, make sure everyone pays, etc. How about just parenting your OWN kids first? Try that. Talk to them and find out what it going on. It's what I do and it works.

What's that you say... you're kids won't tell you or will lie to you? Perhaps you should do less internet finger wagging and more talking to your kids, listening to them, treating them like autonomous human beings, giving them opportunities to make decisions in the first place. How about that?

It's not a lynch mob mentality. We want to keep our kids safe (and other people's kids!). Why do you feel like it's ok to deflect the blame? The whole point is they broke the law. People died.

Because the truth is ... what you are suggesting won't keep your kids safe, they will drink and smoke pot, it will just be at the Canal, or on a lot that has not been built on yet, or at the park down the street.

and the other truth is... that "hypothetically"... the alcohol was not drank at that party, it was drank after they left, after they got home, checked in and pretended to go to sleep and left the house through a window, without their parent permission.

Spoken like a parent who hosts many of his/her kids parties

Great job keeping your kids "safe" because you *know* where they are drinking!

Moron.

Nice try. I am just a parent that does not leave it up to MoCo police or other parents being in jail to know where my kids are hanging out. I also know what happens when you try to track their every movement, or how much kids lie. I also know that no matter how much parents try, unless you lock your windows with a key and have alarms on all your doors, you virtually have little or no control over an 18yo that is leaving for college in 4 weeks.

Agree 100%

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Perhaps the parents of pre-schoolers can spinoff and discuss redshirting. And there are lots of you.

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Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Even if not stolen through open garage doors, if you think teens don't get beer from their own garages, you're nuts. And fridge locks aren't very common.

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Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Not that poster and I don't know about the beer, but there has been a rash of garage burglaries in the afternoons in this exact neighborhood (Stonebridge, Dufief). Call the first district police station and ask. People actually are that stupid. Cars and garage doors are often left unlocked around here. And the culprits are teens.

Could you please post a link of some sort indicating that these culprits are teens? Any consequences for them?

I don't have a link. I've spoken directly to police. Please call yourself for more info.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Even if not stolen through open garage doors, if you think teens don't get beer from their own garages, you're nuts. And fridge locks aren't very common.

We did this when I was a kid decades ago. And yes, it does still happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

....They'd be getting robbed big time, of a lot more than beer, if people were that ignorant. So please stop with your ridiculous nonsense.

I live in this area and just drove home. Counted at least ten garage doors open. This is generally a very safe area and lots of people leave their garage doors open during the day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What surprise evidence might still be lurking in the woods, at this point? Yes, let's be wildly imaginative.

I don't know exactly what they are looking for, but the road was blocked off late this morning and police were clearly analyzing the scene.

[Anonymous]

They know how to manage parents who provide alcohol to minors in Virginia: lock them up.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/06/08/AR2007060802795.html