HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Europeans drive drunk much less than here because the laws are super strict. If you get caught driving while intoxicated, there are major repercussions. I wish it was the same here. I think over there you might lose your license or get thrown in jail even the first time. I don’t remember exactly what happens though. I remember when we were in Spain a couple of years ago, several locals warned us not to even think of driving if you have more than one drink in an evening. They said if the police stop you, there will be hell to pay and it will ruin your vacation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respect the dead kids please.

Which dead kids?

This crash in Silver Spring in 2011?
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/197734/435/Desaleen-James-Shares-Her-Story-and-Video-from-the-Drunk-Driving-Crash-That-killed-Her-Two-Friends

Or these kids from 2012?
http://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/vigil-held-for-young-man-woman-killed-on-jones-bridge-road

Or this kid from 2014?
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/08/30/3-people-injured-in-md-accident/14862269/

Or these kids from 1995?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/magazine/drinking060798.htm

Let's talk about alcohol prevention and teen driving.

I was in high school when the kids died in 1995 and I remember it like it was yesterday. It affected me all throughout college and I think I am a safer driver today because of that news coverage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thank you, 18:28, for posting the actual law.

It's now 9pm on a Saturday night.

Do you know where your teen is?
Whom they're with?
What they're drinking?
Who's driving?

You can just say no, and save their life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respect the dead kids please.

Which dead kids?

This crash in Silver Spring in 2011?
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/197734/435/Desaleen-James-Shares-Her-Story-and-Video-from-the-Drunk-Driving-Crash-That-killed-Her-Two-Friends

Or these kids from 2012?
http://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/vigil-held-for-young-man-woman-killed-on-jones-bridge-road

Or this kid from 2014?
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/08/30/3-people-injured-in-md-accident/14862269/

Or these kids from 1995?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/magazine/drinking060798.htm

Let's talk about alcohol prevention and teen driving.

Why doesn't this happen in Germany where kids can legally have a beer at 16 without their parent and 13 with their parent?

We've hosted numerous German APs and NONE of them have been interested in getting drunk and are shocked to learn that Americans drive with even a drop of alcohol in their bodies.

The problem IS alcohol prevention and the solution is drinking responsibly because drinking WI'LL happen and kids are given no guidance and parents are allowing these children with no guidiance to drink in their homes. It is all one big circle jerk.

Drunk driving happens in Europe among young people. Most young people though don't have access to cars, etc.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35079-2004Dec29.html

You don't know much about Germany and driving. They are not rule breakers. Drunk driving is extremely uncommon. As a matter of fact, I hire Germans because of their meticulous rule following and the fact that every one I have hired has had her own car, thus lots of driving experience.

The difference is this: Most European families expect the children to obey the parents, where as most Americans consider the word “obedience” to be a dirty word. So American children are mostly allowed to do what they want, because they don’t “listen”.

Teaching your kids to obey you takes tremendous patience and SELF-discipline. Most American parents are simply too tired for that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Europeans drive drunk much less than here because the laws are super strict. If you get caught driving while intoxicated, there are major repercussions. I wish it was the same here. I think over there you might lose your license or get thrown in jail even the first time. I don’t remember exactly what happens though. I remember when we were in Spain a couple of years ago, several locals warned us not to even think of driving if you have more than one drink in an evening. They said if the police stop you, there will be hell to pay and it will ruin your vacation.

The laws aren’t more strict because our states are partial to the liquor Lobby. Politicians getting money from liquor groups means you die in drunk driver induced wrecks. Enjoy corrupt capitalism!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respect the dead kids please.

Which dead kids?

This crash in Silver Spring in 2011?
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/197734/435/Desaleen-James-Shares-Her-Story-and-Video-from-the-Drunk-Driving-Crash-That-killed-Her-Two-Friends

Or these kids from 2012?
http://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/vigil-held-for-young-man-woman-killed-on-jones-bridge-road

Or this kid from 2014?
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/08/30/3-people-injured-in-md-accident/14862269/

Or these kids from 1995?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/magazine/drinking060798.htm

Let's talk about alcohol prevention and teen driving.

Why doesn't this happen in Germany where kids can legally have a beer at 16 without their parent and 13 with their parent?

We've hosted numerous German APs and NONE of them have been interested in getting drunk and are shocked to learn that Americans drive with even a drop of alcohol in their bodies.

The problem IS alcohol prevention and the solution is drinking responsibly because drinking WI'LL happen and kids are given no guidance and parents are allowing these children with no guidiance to drink in their homes. It is all one big circle jerk.

Drunk driving happens in Europe among young people. Most young people though don't have access to cars, etc.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35079-2004Dec29.html

You don't know much about Germany and driving. They are not rule breakers. Drunk driving is extremely uncommon. As a matter of fact, I hire Germans because of their meticulous rule following and the fact that every one I have hired has had her own car, thus lots of driving experience.

The difference is this: Most European families expect the children to obey the parents, where as most Americans consider the word “obedience” to be a dirty word. So American children are mostly allowed to do what they want, because they don’t “listen”.

Teaching your kids to obey you takes tremendous patience and SELF-discipline. Most American parents are simply too tired for that.

Total BS. European parents and culture is way more permissive. There’s no drinking age though so consuming alcohol in moderation starts very early.

[Anonymous]

We are also missing the point that Europeans - and especially European teens - don’t drive that much.
They walk home from the pub and people take trains as transportation a lot more often then they drive. Many people don’t even own a car.

[Anonymous]

European parents are extremely strict. I don't know where you biased, no - prejudiced people are getting your information. Stay in your lane.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respect the dead kids please.

Which dead kids?

This crash in Silver Spring in 2011?
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/197734/435/Desaleen-James-Shares-Her-Story-and-Video-from-the-Drunk-Driving-Crash-That-killed-Her-Two-Friends

Or these kids from 2012?
http://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/vigil-held-for-young-man-woman-killed-on-jones-bridge-road

Or this kid from 2014?
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/08/30/3-people-injured-in-md-accident/14862269/

Or these kids from 1995?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/magazine/drinking060798.htm

Let's talk about alcohol prevention and teen driving.

Why doesn't this happen in Germany where kids can legally have a beer at 16 without their parent and 13 with their parent?

We've hosted numerous German APs and NONE of them have been interested in getting drunk and are shocked to learn that Americans drive with even a drop of alcohol in their bodies.

The problem IS alcohol prevention and the solution is drinking responsibly because drinking WI'LL happen and kids are given no guidance and parents are allowing these children with no guidiance to drink in their homes. It is all one big circle jerk.

Drunk driving happens in Europe among young people. Most young people though don't have access to cars, etc.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35079-2004Dec29.html

You don't know much about Germany and driving. They are not rule breakers. Drunk driving is extremely uncommon. As a matter of fact, I hire Germans because of their meticulous rule following and the fact that every one I have hired has had her own car, thus lots of driving experience.

The difference is this: Most European families expect the children to obey the parents, where as most Americans consider the word “obedience” to be a dirty word. So American children are mostly allowed to do what they want, because they don’t “listen”.

Teaching your kids to obey you takes tremendous patience and SELF-discipline. Most American parents are simply too tired for that.

What a load of stereotypical BS this is!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Respect the dead kids please.

Which dead kids?

This crash in Silver Spring in 2011?
http://www.wusa9.com/news/article/197734/435/Desaleen-James-Shares-Her-Story-and-Video-from-the-Drunk-Driving-Crash-That-killed-Her-Two-Friends

Or these kids from 2012?
http://patch.com/maryland/bethesda-chevychase/vigil-held-for-young-man-woman-killed-on-jones-bridge-road

Or this kid from 2014?
http://www.wusa9.com/story/news/local/2014/08/30/3-people-injured-in-md-accident/14862269/

Or these kids from 1995?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/local/longterm/library/magazine/drinking060798.htm

Let's talk about alcohol prevention and teen driving.

Why doesn't this happen in Germany where kids can legally have a beer at 16 without their parent and 13 with their parent?

We've hosted numerous German APs and NONE of them have been interested in getting drunk and are shocked to learn that Americans drive with even a drop of alcohol in their bodies.

The problem IS alcohol prevention and the solution is drinking responsibly because drinking WI'LL happen and kids are given no guidance and parents are allowing these children with no guidiance to drink in their homes. It is all one big circle jerk.

Drunk driving happens in Europe among young people. Most young people though don't have access to cars, etc.:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A35079-2004Dec29.html

You don't know much about Germany and driving. They are not rule breakers. Drunk driving is extremely uncommon. As a matter of fact, I hire Germans because of their meticulous rule following and the fact that every one I have hired has had her own car, thus lots of driving experience.

The difference is this: Most European families expect the children to obey the parents, where as most Americans consider the word “obedience” to be a dirty word. So American children are mostly allowed to do what they want, because they don’t “listen”.

Teaching your kids to obey you takes tremendous patience and SELF-discipline. Most American parents are simply too tired for that.

What a load of stereotypical BS this is!

Can you please be specific?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are also missing the point that Europeans - and especially European teens - don’t drive that much.
They walk home from the pub and people take trains as transportation a lot more often then they drive. Many people don’t even own a car.

Exactly. Most Americans don’t have a clue.

[Anonymous]

Always drive your own kid to a party,
if you allow them to even go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We are also missing the point that Europeans - and especially European teens - don’t drive that much.
They walk home from the pub and people take trains as transportation a lot more often then they drive. Many people don’t even own a car.

+1. I think most get to driving age by time they are in their last year of high school and they do not rely on driving their own cars to get to school or to parties. Can’t imagine Dutch or German teens going to party in a car - that would be an exception, most would be riding bikes or walking.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are also missing the point that Europeans - and especially European teens - don’t drive that much.
They walk home from the pub and people take trains as transportation a lot more often then they drive. Many people don’t even own a car.

+1. I think most get to driving age by time they are in their last year of high school and they do not rely on driving their own cars to get to school or to parties. Can’t imagine Dutch or German teens going to party in a car - that would be an exception, most would be riding bikes or walking.

I agree.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We are also missing the point that Europeans - and especially European teens - don’t drive that much.
They walk home from the pub and people take trains as transportation a lot more often then they drive. Many people don’t even own a car.

+1. I think most get to driving age by time they are in their last year of high school and they do not rely on driving their own cars to get to school or to parties. Can’t imagine Dutch or German teens going to party in a car - that would be an exception, most would be riding bikes or walking.

I agree.

It’s rigorous for Germans to get their drivers license. Takes a lot more than what American kids have to do, more rigorous driving instruction for longer and you can’t get your license until 18. At 17- you need a licensed driver in the car with you to drive.

My friend lived in a rural part of Germany and they drove.