HS Party with Alcohol... Death

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
That is not what my friends in DC tell me. Their kids are drinking and driving all the time. Metro does not go past midnight and they actually have friends that don't live on the metro line. The buses don't run all night and UBER is UBER expensive. Crossing the street drunk is a huge risk and drunk kids don't like to walk to crosswalks.

Also, they have more access to alcohol, the enforcement of underage purchases or is not as strict in parts of DC, besides the old trick is just to get a homeless guy to buy it for you.

Metro runs until 3 am on Fridays and Saturdays.

Also, parts of DC actually are car-dependent suburbs, even though they're in the district -- Palisades, for example.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are places getting caught selling alcohol to kids getting posted anywhere?

They should be posted on the internet, along with the names and addresses of individuals who provide underaged kids with alcohol.

They are: http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DLCLRE/Regulation/violations/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Are places getting caught selling alcohol to kids getting posted anywhere?

They should be posted on the internet, along with the names and addresses of individuals who provide underaged kids with alcohol.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Are places getting caught selling alcohol to kids getting posted anywhere?

They should be posted on the internet, along with the names and addresses of individuals who provide underaged kids with alcohol.

They are: http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/DLCLRE/Regulation/violations/

Thank u!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:
That is not what my friends in DC tell me. Their kids are drinking and driving all the time. Metro does not go past midnight and they actually have friends that don't live on the metro line. The buses don't run all night and UBER is UBER expensive. Crossing the street drunk is a huge risk and drunk kids don't like to walk to crosswalks.

Also, they have more access to alcohol, the enforcement of underage purchases or is not as strict in parts of DC, besides the old trick is just to get a homeless guy to buy it for you.

Metro runs until 3 am on Fridays and Saturdays.

Also, parts of DC actually are car-dependent suburbs, even though they're in the district -- Palisades, for example.

Ha! Good to know... I got "stuck" in Adams Morgan so many times when it closed earlier.

[Anonymous]

What's the #1 way the kids are getting the booze?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

....They'd be getting robbed big time, of a lot more than beer, if people were that ignorant. So please stop with your ridiculous nonsense.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The lynch mob wants everyone else to list the names, report the people, make sure everyone pays, etc. How about just parenting your OWN kids first? Try that. Talk to them and find out what it going on. It's what I do and it works.

What's that you say... you're kids won't tell you or will lie to you? Perhaps you should do less internet finger wagging and more talking to your kids, listening to them, treating them like autonomous human beings, giving them opportunities to make decisions in the first place. How about that?

It's not a lynch mob mentality. We want to keep our kids safe (and other people's kids!). Why do you feel like it's ok to deflect the blame? The whole point is they broke the law. People died.

Because the truth is ... what you are suggesting won't keep your kids safe, they will drink and smoke pot, it will just be at the Canal, or on a lot that has not been built on yet, or at the park down the street.

and the other truth is... that "hypothetically"... the alcohol was not drank at that party, it was drank after they left, after they got home, checked in and pretended to go to sleep and left the house through a window, without their parent permission.

Spoken like a parent who hosts many of his/her kids parties

Great job keeping your kids "safe" because you *know* where they are drinking!

Moron.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Because the truth is ... what you are suggesting won't keep your kids safe, they will drink and smoke pot, it will just be at the Canal, or on a lot that has not been built on yet, or at the park down the street.

and the other truth is... that "hypothetically"... the alcohol was not drank at that party, it was drank after they left, after they got home, checked in and pretended to go to sleep and left the house through a window, without their parent permission.

Spoken like a parent who hosts many of his/her kids parties

Great job keeping your kids "safe" because you *know* where they are drinking!

Moron.

Apparently anybody who thinks that "lock up the parents!" may not be the best strategy for keeping teenagers alive is an alcohol-party hosting parent who thinks it's just fine for teenagers to drive drunk. Who knew?

And actually the whole point of the first PP's post is that the parents do NOT know where the kids are drinking, because it could be anywhere.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lynch mob wants everyone else to list the names, report the people, make sure everyone pays, etc. How about just parenting your OWN kids first? Try that. Talk to them and find out what it going on. It's what I do and it works.

What's that you say... you're kids won't tell you or will lie to you? Perhaps you should do less internet finger wagging and more talking to your kids, listening to them, treating them like autonomous human beings, giving them opportunities to make decisions in the first place. How about that?

It's not a lynch mob mentality. We want to keep our kids safe (and other people's kids!). Why do you feel like it's ok to deflect the blame? The whole point is they broke the law. People died.

Because the truth is ... what you are suggesting won't keep your kids safe, they will drink and smoke pot, it will just be at the Canal, or on a lot that has not been built on yet, or at the park down the street.

and the other truth is... that "hypothetically"... the alcohol was not drank at that party, it was drank after they left, after they got home, checked in and pretended to go to sleep and left the house through a window, without their parent permission.

Spoken like a parent who hosts many of his/her kids parties

Great job keeping your kids "safe" because you *know* where they are drinking!

Moron.

Precisely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Not that poster and I don't know about the beer, but there has been a rash of garage burglaries in the afternoons in this exact neighborhood (Stonebridge, Dufief). Call the first district police station and ask. People actually are that stupid. Cars and garage doors are often left unlocked around here. And the culprits are teens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Of the many many ways and places teens find to drink alcohol, drinking in a house with parents present is the least common. By far. And of those few times, the parents don't "serve" the kids alcohol. The kids sneak alcohol into the house or take it from the parents' garage fridge.

There was actually a news report saying the kids grab the cases of beer the suburbanites leave in and next to their garage fridges. And especially in the summer the garage doors are open a lot. To pp: I don't know of anyone who locks their fridges or cases of beer.

No, you're nuts. People aren't that stupid.

Not that poster and I don't know about the beer, but there has been a rash of garage burglaries in the afternoons in this exact neighborhood (Stonebridge, Dufief). Call the first district police station and ask. People actually are that stupid. Cars and garage doors are often left unlocked around here. And the culprits are teens.

Could you please post a link of some sort indicating that these culprits are teens? Any consequences for them?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It is called Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor (but 18 is not a minor... so there is that)

But as you can see, most likely MoCO is not going to charge this, maybe, but most likely not.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/03/AR2007070302331.html

The idea of putting people in jail for non-violent offenses (like giving alcohol to a minor, or selling drugs) is not the way the tide is turning... see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/07/13/obama-inmates-freed_n_7786126.html

I guess we have to wait until it's the child (or close friend) of someone with political power to curb teen drinking and driving.

Personally, I wish they would just provide more things for teens to do on a Saturday night besides parties. The movies and going out to eat... that is it. There is NOTHING for a teen to do on a Saturday night. A teacher in MoCo tried to start a "safe" party with dancing and MoCo parents posted picture of kids dancing which looked a little provocative, they called and complained and threatened to sue and he shut it down. Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

Too bad, it's a shame.

I know schools go to great length to provide a safe party after proms but 1/2 the kids don't go and the ones that don't go make fun of the kids that do. They go to the dance for 1 hour and then go party, that should should not be allowed.

Why not send them into DC? The Capital Fringe Festival is happening right now and there are a ton of wonderful shows to catch. You can drop them off at a metro station, and then pick them up from the station when they return.