NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

You're obsessed with this GenX thing. GenX doesn't give a shit, trust me. Are you confusing them with Millennials?

I'm Gen X and until the Dems get their shit together and come up with an actual alternative and the polling to support it I'm still 100% with Biden.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

I wonder who they will blame when their little switcheroo doesn't work either.

Please don’t speak for GenX. As a young X, I support Biden and the Democratic ticket, always. None of my X cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. None of my independent cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. None of my Republican cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. My GenZ and all above GenZ kids support Biden and the Democratic ticket. None are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. We all will support Harris if it comes to that.

+1 it;s not Gen X. Schumer and Pelosi aren't Gen X

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

No no no you dont get to drop “ageism”. This is BEYOND his age. We all knew how numerically old he is.

What we didnt know (because its been hidden) is the extent of his decline in the last 2 years. That deception is what we are all livid about.

How do you explain the recent appearances when he was sharp and articulate? Still livid? Are you livid about the fact that Regan barely knew his own name for half of his presidency?
You're all just desperate for drama, Biden had a bad debate and you're running with it. The day after the debate, he was "out of it". Two weeks later, people are calling him a "vegetable".

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

I do believe it. Biden always trusted Obama and he was the one who told Biden to take more time to mourn his son. I believe Biden would have won. I voted for Obama. Recently, I think he’s arrogant and he’s allegedly one of the first to advise Biden to step down. Their so called friendship was one sided. Always felt like he looked down on Biden.

I believe it too and wholly agree with your thoughts on Obama.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

Exactly. And when anyone tries to bring up Trump's delusions, his demented and incoherent ranting and rambling, the fact that he's currently even older than Biden was when Biden ran for his current term and so on we get this deranged and dishonest pushback for it. Again, compare Trump today to his interview with Oprah when he first talked about running for President. You can SEE the decline and it's actually worse than Biden's. And, there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL Trump would have been able to give coherent, informed responses like Trump did during the NATO presser.

Any criticism people want to level at Biden over his age, his health, his decline, his fitness deserves and demands the exact same questions and scrutiny leveled at Trump. That's not "whataboutism" - you all need to stop being hypocrites peddling dishonest double standards.

And as for replacing Biden, polling shows it's not Harris, unless you want to GUARANTEE a Trump win. Maybe you need Mark Kelly or someone else but right now the idiots calling for replacing Biden don't even have any data at all to guide them, it's all 100% pure unadulterated knee-jerk idiocy. Frankly I don't appreciate having a bunch of knee-jerk idiots without any data and without a plan calling the shots for what Biden should do.

+1000. It also bothers me that these same concerns where there 3 years ago. They could have come up with a plan and a replacement and addressed their concerns internally and then presented a united and respectful front BEFORE the primary!

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

You're obsessed with this GenX thing. GenX doesn't give a shit, trust me. Are you confusing them with Millennials?

I'm Gen X and until the Dems get their shit together and come up with an actual alternative and the polling to support it I'm still 100% with Biden.

+1 another GenX and fully support Biden.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

This.

“We have to save democracy from Trump…..but first let us throw out 14,000,000 votes and drive an elected POTUS out of office with a vicious rumor campaign.”

I’ve been a Democrat since 2000 but this is height of hypocrisy.

Oh well. George Clooney's vote matters more than yours .

We know you're not actually a Democrat. Go ahead and keep pretending. Harris will win.

Harris isn't going to be on the ticket. Get that through your head ! CLooney and his pals don't want Harris at the top of the ticket. Thus the contested convention and mini primary so they can get them both of the ticket and they can replace them with a Newsom, Brashear. It;s also about positioning for 2028. I

[Anonymous]

Any of you who listened to Trump at the convention and claims Biden is demented, but Trump isn’t, is a biased pice of sh—.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

No no no you dont get to drop “ageism”. This is BEYOND his age. We all knew how numerically old he is.

What we didnt know (because its been hidden) is the extent of his decline in the last 2 years. That deception is what we are all livid about.

How do you explain the recent appearances when he was sharp and articulate? Still livid? Are you livid about the fact that Regan barely knew his own name for half of his presidency?
You're all just desperate for drama, Biden had a bad debate and you're running with it. The day after the debate, he was "out of it". Two weeks later, people are calling him a "vegetable".

The decline has been going on for years. I knew it. You didn’t know about it because your news sources covered for him.

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I still can’t imagine who this perfect candidate is that the donors are just going to pull out of a hat and it’ll all be better. And even if that perfect candidate exists, why wouldn’t they hold their fire and plan for a 2028 run instead of going against Trump? For all his faults he did just survive a horrific attempt on his life and surely gets some sympathy votes. He’ll be gone soon enough and 2028 offers a clean slate rather than this mess.

[Anonymous]

Biden’s friendship with Obama is a ridiculous concept; presidents aren’t president to make friends. If you want a friend, get a dog- not a dog that mauls staff, though.

All I see are people plotting and planning how to win. How about putting the needs of the American people first? If a party fuggs everything up, through their own bad choices, maybe they shouldn’t win? Maybe they should focus on getting their party back on track before they frantically attempt to maintain power? If you can’t even field a cogent candidate- that’s a huge mistake and something is very very wrong. How can you ask the American people to trust you and your judgement?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

No no no you dont get to drop “ageism”. This is BEYOND his age. We all knew how numerically old he is.

What we didnt know (because its been hidden) is the extent of his decline in the last 2 years. That deception is what we are all livid about.

How do you explain the recent appearances when he was sharp and articulate? Still livid? Are you livid about the fact that Regan barely knew his own name for half of his presidency?
You're all just desperate for drama, Biden had a bad debate and you're running with it. The day after the debate, he was "out of it". Two weeks later, people are calling him a "vegetable".

The decline has been going on for years. I knew it. You didn’t know about it because your news sources covered for him.

+100

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I still can’t imagine who this perfect candidate is that the donors are just going to pull out of a hat and it’ll all be better. And even if that perfect candidate exists, why wouldn’t they hold their fire and plan for a 2028 run instead of going against Trump? For all his faults he did just survive a horrific attempt on his life and surely gets some sympathy votes. He’ll be gone soon enough and 2028 offers a clean slate rather than this mess.

I like Harris

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

No no no you dont get to drop “ageism”. This is BEYOND his age. We all knew how numerically old he is.

What we didnt know (because its been hidden) is the extent of his decline in the last 2 years. That deception is what we are all livid about.

How do you explain the recent appearances when he was sharp and articulate? Still livid? Are you livid about the fact that Regan barely knew his own name for half of his presidency?
You're all just desperate for drama, Biden had a bad debate and you're running with it. The day after the debate, he was "out of it". Two weeks later, people are calling him a "vegetable".

The decline has been going on for years. I knew it. You didn’t know about it because your news sources covered for him.

Here's the decline that has been going on for years, and YOU and the media and everyone on the right is covering for him pretending nothing's happening.
Trump's brain is fried, half the time he talks complete gibberish, can't even follow a coherent thought from one minute to the next. His mental decline is far worse than Biden's and anyone who bothers to actually try and sit and listen to him speak can see it plain as day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any of you who listened to Trump at the convention and claims Biden is demented, but Trump isn’t, is a biased pice of sh—.

There’s that classy, mature, democrat pov that blames voters for the bad choices that power brokers and donors make. How on earth are voters pieces of shit for participating in elections and forming opinions? Oh, that’s right- it’s destroying democracy when voters don’t vote for a democrat, even if that democrat can barely walk and talk.