NYT and WaPo report Biden is close to stepping down

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Anonymous wrote:Trump also old and unqualified.

And unreasonable. Biden, however, is not immune from reason. He is being convinced right now. He is coming to the correct conclusion.

He just released a statement that he isn’t dropping out.

He will be dropping out soon.

Agree. DNC and democrat power brokers have had it with Joe. He will drop soon because they will hold release of Hur tapes and/or his big guy shady business deals over his head. He’s unable to understand but Jill and Hunter will be smart enough to take the deal.

No.

EVERYONE has had it with Joe. It's an outrage that his decline was hidden by his closest circle in 2024. He was mumbling and getting confused before that, but the average voter could be excused for not paying attention, and the Dem elected representatives and media were too cowardly to come together to push him aside. Biden's decline became more pronounced this spring, until it couldn't be hidden at all, despite his circle's best efforts. So now everyone is Big Mad, everyone feels betrayed, and most people recognize Harris has the best shot at beating Trump than all the alternatives.

Harris it is. Get on board.

No, EVERYONE has not had it. You have. A lot of people have. But not everyone.
And if and when EVERYONE has had it, they will not get on board for Harris.
Stop the hypberbole. Stop telling everyone what to think and who to support.

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Anonymous wrote:As a republican

Honestly yall just get it together and pick a candidate.

They did. Joe Biden.

But now they realize he can’t win so they’d like the chance to pick someone else. That’s not how this works. Life lesson.

It sounds like the problem is that the people didn’t really pick Biden, because they didn’t really know him. The left wing media was covering for him the entire time and apparently managed to fool the majority of blue voters. Now that they’ve seen for themselves who he is, rather than relying on their unreliable narration, they want to choose someone else.

I hope this is a reckoning for the party, and the media.

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I’ve “had it” with Joe, but he’s still our legal President and I voted for him in the primary.

But I don’t think we should dump him. I think this will eventually toss state election results to the courts and we will have judges deciding who can be on ballots. The time to drive Biden out of office was last summer so we could have a primary.

Further, there will be no unity in a contested convention floor fight. There will be one winner and a lot of losers. A lot of bitter losers and this will fracture the Democratic base. And I absolutely believe the rumors that donors are looking to dump both Biden and Harris which will again blow up unity.

In short, dumping Biden has more risks than keeping him. Stop looking at polls 4 months out. Bush was down by 17 points against Dukakis in the summer of 1988.

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Anonymous wrote:Trump also old and unqualified.

And unreasonable. Biden, however, is not immune from reason. He is being convinced right now. He is coming to the correct conclusion.

He just released a statement that he isn’t dropping out.

He will be dropping out soon.

Agree. DNC and democrat power brokers have had it with Joe. He will drop soon because they will hold release of Hur tapes and/or his big guy shady business deals over his head. He’s unable to understand but Jill and Hunter will be smart enough to take the deal.

No.

EVERYONE has had it with Joe. It's an outrage that his decline was hidden by his closest circle in 2024. He was mumbling and getting confused before that, but the average voter could be excused for not paying attention, and the Dem elected representatives and media were too cowardly to come together to push him aside. Biden's decline became more pronounced this spring, until it couldn't be hidden at all, despite his circle's best efforts. So now everyone is Big Mad, everyone feels betrayed, and most people recognize Harris has the best shot at beating Trump than all the alternatives.

Harris it is. Get on board.

I'm someone and I'm not on board with your "Everyone."

You don't have a plan and you are doing even more damage to the Democrats and any shot at winning than Joe did during the Debate.
COME UP WITH A PLAN. SHOW ME CREDIBLE POLLING SHOWING CANDIDATE X (and sorry polling already shows it's not Kamala) WILL CRUSH TRUMP.

You have less than 3 weeks to figure this out and get it done - and right now, you have NOTHING. Until then, nobody is "on board" with anything because you don't even have a pot to piss in.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

I wonder who they will blame when their little switcheroo doesn't work either.

Please don’t speak for GenX. As a young X, I support Biden and the Democratic ticket, always. None of my X cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. None of my independent cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. None of my Republican cohort are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. My GenZ and all above GenZ kids support Biden and the Democratic ticket. None are voting for Trump or anyone other than the Dem nominee. We all will support Harris if it comes to that.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

You're obsessed with this GenX thing. GenX doesn't give a shit, trust me. Are you confusing them with Millennials?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

No no no you dont get to drop “ageism”. This is BEYOND his age. We all knew how numerically old he is.

What we didnt know (because its been hidden) is the extent of his decline in the last 2 years. That deception is what we are all livid about.

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Called this. If he’s not running for re-election, GOP hacks are moving to he should step down from presidency now. Isn’t it neat how the New York Times, CNN, and Netflix created this right wing con man:

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Anonymous wrote:What did I miss? Why are people blaming this on Gen X?

It's one insane poster who thinks this is a GenX conspiracy.

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Anonymous wrote:The lack of respect of the office of the Presidency by these backstabbing Gen X bedwetters is unreal. You’re poisoning the Democratic Party for a generation if you drive out the duly elected President and dump 14,000,000 votes.

What’s the point of democracy if Dem donors know better than everyone else?

You're obsessed with this GenX thing. GenX doesn't give a shit, trust me. Are you confusing them with Millennials?

As a 45 year old “young” genx-er you’re right. We dont give a shit. Im praying they put biden out to pasture respectfully but the clock is about to run out on that. But i’ll vote for whichever dem is on the ticket.

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Anonymous wrote:As a republican

Honestly yall just get it together and pick a candidate.

They did. Joe Biden.

But now they realize he can’t win so they’d like the chance to pick someone else. That’s not how this works. Life lesson.

It sounds like the problem is that the people didn’t really pick Biden, because they didn’t really know him. The left wing media was covering for him the entire time and apparently managed to fool the majority of blue voters. Now that they’ve seen for themselves who he is, rather than relying on their unreliable narration, they want to choose someone else.

I hope this is a reckoning for the party, and the media.

I mean, MAGA don’t really understand that Trump is Putin patsy, so there’s always a “behind the curtain “ element.

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

I do believe it. Biden always trusted Obama and he was the one who told Biden to take more time to mourn his son. I believe Biden would have won. I voted for Obama. Recently, I think he’s arrogant and he’s allegedly one of the first to advise Biden to step down. Their so called friendship was one sided. Always felt like he looked down on Biden.

Obama ain’t a kingmaker, he is a midwit puppet high on his own supply.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s about time for the donor class to be told that they don’t own our democracy. 14.5 million people voted for Joe in the primary. You don’t get to just throw those out because of some bad polls. Bush senior was down 17 points to Dukakis after the 1988 Dem convention and we know how that turned out. The time to promote Biden alternatives was the primary.

There was no realistic alternative during the primary, because voters were not informed of the extent of Biden's impairment.
This is acknowledged by most people, PP. I know you're posting everywhere trying to persuade others that Biden should be the nominee, but that option disappeared the night of the debate. He was done then, he just didn't know it. It appears you are delusional like he is. This is not a donor class problem. No one except you and a small number of morons want to stick with Biden.

If you didn’t know about Biden’s impairment, you need to scrap all of your news sources. Seriously. They left you completely misinformed.

DP. I watched the debate. I don't watch CNN or CSPAN and hadn't seem any video of Biden in person in month and months.

I was shocked. He is past the time of taking grandpa's keys away. He cannot be the presidential candidate. And I do not think well of AOC to say that he should be.

It leaves such a bad taste in my mouth that people are piling on Biden (and none if it is with any deference or respect toward him as the sitting POTUS, or any kindness whatsoever, but just nasty ageism and meanness about people with declining mental faculties), and when Trump rambles like a fool, they just shrug and say "Well, we KNOW he's crazy and he's always been incompetent and horrible, so it's different". It's wrong when the majority bullies a decent person to protect themselves from the really bad bully. It's wrong in middle school and it's wrong in this case too. I don't know what the solution is, but it's not this. You deserve Trump, and you're going to get him either way.

Exactly. And when anyone tries to bring up Trump's delusions, his demented and incoherent ranting and rambling, the fact that he's currently even older than Biden was when Biden ran for his current term and so on we get this deranged and dishonest pushback for it. Again, compare Trump today to his interview with Oprah when he first talked about running for President. You can SEE the decline and it's actually worse than Biden's. And, there is absolutely NO WAY IN HELL Trump would have been able to give coherent, informed responses like Trump did during the NATO presser.

Any criticism people want to level at Biden over his age, his health, his decline, his fitness deserves and demands the exact same questions and scrutiny leveled at Trump. That's not "whataboutism" - you all need to stop being hypocrites peddling dishonest double standards.

And as for replacing Biden, polling shows it's not Harris, unless you want to GUARANTEE a Trump win. Maybe you need Mark Kelly or someone else but right now the idiots calling for replacing Biden don't even have any data at all to guide them, it's all 100% pure unadulterated knee-jerk idiocy. Frankly I don't appreciate having a bunch of knee-jerk idiots without any data and without a plan calling the shots for what Biden should do.

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Anonymous wrote:Good point about this really ought to be the end of Biden’s second term right now. These same party leaders encouraging him to step down told him not to run in 2016. Who has better instincts?

I don’t believe anyone spewing the crap that Biden was pushed aside for Hillary. He didn’t want to run because Beau had just died.

I do believe it. Biden always trusted Obama and he was the one who told Biden to take more time to mourn his son. I believe Biden would have won. I voted for Obama. Recently, I think he’s arrogant and he’s allegedly one of the first to advise Biden to step down. Their so called friendship was one sided. Always felt like he looked down on Biden.

Obama ain’t a kingmaker, he is a midwit puppet high on his own supply.

Oh look we found the MAGA meth-head Kid Rock fan.