APS budget is unacceptable

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

You ppl are OBSESSED with this. Move on please.

And no I don't work for Syphax. Just sick of this dominating.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

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It will be an even worse nightmare as central staff members get furloughed, leaving no one to serve the public’s needs. Just sayin’

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

As a teacher, I’ll get a measly 1% COLA this year. And lost my health insurance. Still angry about this.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

It’s hard to get get exact numbers on that. But surely you don’t think giving thousands of staff three extra weeks of vacation is free. There are many positions that are not doing well with that extra three weeks off. Very inefficient.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

We can’t wonder where the money is going and then ignore this at the same time.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

If you don’t realize that the messed-up priorities over at Syphax are affecting your kid’s (or kids’) education, I just don’t know that to tell you.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

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Anonymous wrote:It will be an even worse nightmare as central staff members get furloughed, leaving no one to serve the public’s needs. Just sayin’

That depends on who they furlough.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

I'm a teacher. I did not get a backdoor raise. APS can't afford to give us more than 1% this year. My summers are shorter now because all of these days were added that I support FOR students! I want APS to be transparent about the cost of paying people not to work for 3+ additional weeks and instead give a benefit to ALL staff.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

I'm a teacher. I did not get a backdoor raise. APS can't afford to give us more than 1% this year. My summers are shorter now because all of these days were added that I support FOR students! I want APS to be transparent about the cost of paying people not to work for 3+ additional weeks and instead give a benefit to ALL staff.

Teachers, why aren't you going to the AEA about this?