APS budget is unacceptable

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

I'm a teacher. I did not get a backdoor raise. APS can't afford to give us more than 1% this year. My summers are shorter now because all of these days were added that I support FOR students! I want APS to be transparent about the cost of paying people not to work for 3+ additional weeks and instead give a benefit to ALL staff.

Teachers, why aren't you going to the AEA about this?

Of course we have. They oppose it too.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

Not true. Duran made the paid holiday decision and he can undo it.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

As a teacher, I’ll get a measly 1% COLA this year. And lost my health insurance. Still angry about this.

Private sector employees don't typically get COLAs and have to change (not "lose") insurance companies all the time. No one cares about these particular complaints.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

As a teacher, I’ll get a measly 1% COLA this year. And lost my health insurance. Still angry about this.

Private sector employees don't typically get COLAs and have to change (not "lose") insurance companies all the time. No one cares about these particular complaints.

Yes, some private sector employees might not get the same benefits as teachers, but I think teachers deserve these resources and it is a valid complaint. Just because someone else has it worse doesn't mean you shouldn't try to better your own position.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

As a teacher, I’ll get a measly 1% COLA this year. And lost my health insurance. Still angry about this.

Private sector employees don't typically get COLAs and have to change (not "lose") insurance companies all the time. No one cares about these particular complaints.

Private sector employees can work from home, use the bathroom when they’d like, and go in and ask for a raise. Look- teaching is, quite frankly, a lot harder than it used to be. No one knows how to say no to their kids anymore, class sizes are huge- and they’re going to be empty if the salaries can’t keep up with the cost of living.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

Not true. Duran made the paid holiday decision and he can undo it.

Why does someone need to explain to you how three extra weeks’ of vacation for thousands of staff affect the budget, and operations? You can’t see that?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

It’s VDOE, and they did not create this unprecedented benefit. Duran did. Twelve month staff in other districts can’t believe all the time off APS is giving. So.. those positions will be very competitive, and may draw good teachers out of classrooms. What incentive is APS providing to classroom teachers to come work at APS? APS will lose many good ones this year. The system is only as good as its teachers.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

It’s VDOE, and they did not create this unprecedented benefit. Duran did. Twelve month staff in other districts can’t believe all the time off APS is giving. So.. those positions will be very competitive, and may draw good teachers out of classrooms. What incentive is APS providing to classroom teachers to come work at APS? APS will lose many good ones this year. The system is only as good as its teachers.

It doesn’t seem to be helping much with recruitment/retention at Syphax, there have been lots of openings/reposts this year

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

It’s VDOE, and they did not create this unprecedented benefit. Duran did. Twelve month staff in other districts can’t believe all the time off APS is giving. So.. those positions will be very competitive, and may draw good teachers out of classrooms. What incentive is APS providing to classroom teachers to come work at APS? APS will lose many good ones this year. The system is only as good as its teachers.

It doesn’t seem to be helping much with recruitment/retention at Syphax, there have been lots of openings/reposts this year

Syphax is toxic AF. It’s not surprising they need to give everyone weeks of paid leave and let them routinely telework.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

If you don’t realize that the messed-up priorities over at Syphax are affecting your kid’s (or kids’) education, I just don’t know that to tell you.

There is a lot I don't agree with at Syphax, that's what we should focus on and not the vacation time of a some employees.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

Not true. Duran made the paid holiday decision and he can undo it.

Why does someone need to explain to you how three extra weeks’ of vacation for thousands of staff affect the budget, and operations? You can’t see that?

Because no one can put a number on it. It's just a few bitter people with an agenda.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

I'm a teacher. I did not get a backdoor raise. APS can't afford to give us more than 1% this year. My summers are shorter now because all of these days were added that I support FOR students! I want APS to be transparent about the cost of paying people not to work for 3+ additional weeks and instead give a benefit to ALL staff.

Teachers, why aren't you going to the AEA about this?

Of course we have. They oppose it too.

So go bargain for more vaca for yourselves.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

+1 it was a back door pay raise. Same salary for fewer days worked .

As a teacher, I’ll get a measly 1% COLA this year. And lost my health insurance. Still angry about this.

Private sector employees don't typically get COLAs and have to change (not "lose") insurance companies all the time. No one cares about these particular complaints.

Private sector employees can work from home, use the bathroom when they’d like, and go in and ask for a raise. Look- teaching is, quite frankly, a lot harder than it used to be. No one knows how to say no to their kids anymore, class sizes are huge- and they’re going to be empty if the salaries can’t keep up with the cost of living.

I've never worked in a private sector company where that was the case. There are salary bands for each position and you are stuck in them and evaluated once a year. There is a pool that is distributed among everyone in your labor category and your evaluation drives the amount of your raise and--if your performance is average, or if you have a supervisor who isn't good an advocating for you, you will get a smaller raise than other people. They don't just give everyone an automatic step increase for everyone or a COLA. The entire raise pool might only be 1 percent of salaries, or 3 percent of salaries.

Also, private sector companies often hire people from the outside at "market competitive" salaries without making "market adjustments" for current staff, so long term staff tend to fall behind market and can be paid less than other staff with less experience until the company decided to do a costly overall salary adjustment which they only do when retention starts to be an issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

Not true. Duran made the paid holiday decision and he can undo it.

Why does someone need to explain to you how three extra weeks’ of vacation for thousands of staff affect the budget, and operations? You can’t see that?

Because no one can put a number on it. It's just a few bitter people with an agenda.

Not hard to do. Why won’t syphax do it?

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.

X1000. Thank you!!

Strongly disagree. It's a nightmare to deal with the central office as a school-based staff member, almost impossible to get a helpful response from anyone. So it affects morale and $ both.

No one has shown this affects the budget. At all.

So paying people for not working does not affect the budget?? It certainly affects the fiscal health of the school district.

Y'all just need talking points to keep the chaos going. It does not have to be Syphax versus teachers. You have the same employer. Yes, the 10 vs 12 month contracts are unfair but there's nothing that central staff can do to change that. You have to go to the VADOE for that.

Nobody has still said with any certainty how the holidays affect the budget aside from their own speculations and finger pointing.

Not true. Duran made the paid holiday decision and he can undo it.

Why does someone need to explain to you how three extra weeks’ of vacation for thousands of staff affect the budget, and operations? You can’t see that?

Because no one can put a number on it. It's just a few bitter people with an agenda.

Not hard to do. Why won’t syphax do it?

People are literally asking Duran to cut his own vacation days and those of all of those who work directly with him. I think there would need to be significant pressure from the school board or journalists to get any momentum. He's not going to change the policy unless forced and even then he'd likely adopt some compromise position to try to make everyone happy.