APS budget is unacceptable

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Looks like TJ really might be on the chopping block soon
"• 2.2.13 Thomas Jefferson Science & Technology – The budget includes a transfer of $2.5M to Fairfax
to cover the cost of Arlington students enrolled at TJ.
BAC Recommendations:
- APS should consider eliminating this option pending a more detailed cost evaluation. While
the calculated cost per student of this program is less than the avg Arlington Cost-per-pupil,
shifting the students back into schools would not result in additional cost given they would
be spread across the country and absorbed into current cohorts. (Note: This would need to
change over time since we would likely want to grandfather APS students already attending "

Anyone else remember the poster(s) from a month or two ago who were so very sure this could never be cut? Wonder what their thoughts are now.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Looks like TJ really might be on the chopping block soon
"• 2.2.13 Thomas Jefferson Science & Technology – The budget includes a transfer of $2.5M to Fairfax
to cover the cost of Arlington students enrolled at TJ.
BAC Recommendations:
- APS should consider eliminating this option pending a more detailed cost evaluation. While
the calculated cost per student of this program is less than the avg Arlington Cost-per-pupil,
shifting the students back into schools would not result in additional cost given they would
be spread across the country and absorbed into current cohorts. (Note: This would need to
change over time since we would likely want to grandfather APS students already attending "

Anyone else remember the poster(s) from a month or two ago who were so very sure this could never be cut? Wonder what their thoughts are now.

Just cause the citizen Budget AdvisorynCommittee made a recommendation doesn’t mean anything. APS has proposed cutting TJ before in their budget, but it has never made the SB final. Maybe it will eventually. Short sighted but whatever. Part of APS’s overall tumble towards mediocrity. So long as they grandfather the kids already at TJ who gave up other APS options (HB, IB).

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like TJ really might be on the chopping block soon
"• 2.2.13 Thomas Jefferson Science & Technology – The budget includes a transfer of $2.5M to Fairfax
to cover the cost of Arlington students enrolled at TJ.
BAC Recommendations:
- APS should consider eliminating this option pending a more detailed cost evaluation. While
the calculated cost per student of this program is less than the avg Arlington Cost-per-pupil,
shifting the students back into schools would not result in additional cost given they would
be spread across the country and absorbed into current cohorts. (Note: This would need to
change over time since we would likely want to grandfather APS students already attending "

Anyone else remember the poster(s) from a month or two ago who were so very sure this could never be cut? Wonder what their thoughts are now.

Just cause the citizen Budget AdvisorynCommittee made a recommendation doesn’t mean anything. APS has proposed cutting TJ before in their budget, but it has never made the SB final. Maybe it will eventually. Short sighted but whatever. Part of APS’s overall tumble towards mediocrity. So long as they grandfather the kids already at TJ who gave up other APS options (HB, IB).

I'm not saying it's going to go through, just that it's a possibility. Someone maybe you insisted before this could never happen. Maybe you should rethink that.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like TJ really might be on the chopping block soon
"• 2.2.13 Thomas Jefferson Science & Technology – The budget includes a transfer of $2.5M to Fairfax
to cover the cost of Arlington students enrolled at TJ.
BAC Recommendations:
- APS should consider eliminating this option pending a more detailed cost evaluation. While
the calculated cost per student of this program is less than the avg Arlington Cost-per-pupil,
shifting the students back into schools would not result in additional cost given they would
be spread across the country and absorbed into current cohorts. (Note: This would need to
change over time since we would likely want to grandfather APS students already attending "

Anyone else remember the poster(s) from a month or two ago who were so very sure this could never be cut? Wonder what their thoughts are now.

Just cause the citizen Budget AdvisorynCommittee made a recommendation doesn’t mean anything. APS has proposed cutting TJ before in their budget, but it has never made the SB final. Maybe it will eventually. Short sighted but whatever. Part of APS’s overall tumble towards mediocrity. So long as they grandfather the kids already at TJ who gave up other APS options (HB, IB).

I'm not saying it's going to go through, just that it's a possibility. Someone maybe you insisted before this could never happen. Maybe you should rethink that.

It’s proposed every few years. Don’t think anyone is saying it might not be proposed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Looks like TJ really might be on the chopping block soon
"• 2.2.13 Thomas Jefferson Science & Technology – The budget includes a transfer of $2.5M to Fairfax
to cover the cost of Arlington students enrolled at TJ.
BAC Recommendations:
- APS should consider eliminating this option pending a more detailed cost evaluation. While
the calculated cost per student of this program is less than the avg Arlington Cost-per-pupil,
shifting the students back into schools would not result in additional cost given they would
be spread across the country and absorbed into current cohorts. (Note: This would need to
change over time since we would likely want to grandfather APS students already attending "

Anyone else remember the poster(s) from a month or two ago who were so very sure this could never be cut? Wonder what their thoughts are now.

Just cause the citizen Budget AdvisorynCommittee made a recommendation doesn’t mean anything. APS has proposed cutting TJ before in their budget, but it has never made the SB final. Maybe it will eventually. Short sighted but whatever. Part of APS’s overall tumble towards mediocrity. So long as they grandfather the kids already at TJ who gave up other APS options (HB, IB).

I'm not saying it's going to go through, just that it's a possibility. Someone maybe you insisted before this could never happen. Maybe you should rethink that.

It’s proposed every few years. Don’t think anyone is saying it might not be proposed.

yeah there were people saying this when it came up a few months ago.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

[Anonymous]

How many slots does that $2.5 mill pay for at TH?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

So y'all are all just speculating then. Got it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'd love a rundown of the cost of Syphax employees before and after Duran. It seems crazy how many positions he added but maybe it's actually not that much money.

First, one of the earlier post has a list of positions. Secondly, don’t forget they will cashing out tons of vacation days paid so that’s an additional cost.

Those paid days should be first thing on the chopping block.

how much money would that save?

That’s easily in the millions.

how about real numbers please?

APS won’t put out numbers on it.

I don’t work at APS, so this is just based on general budgeting/finance knowledge. If they are salaried employees there’s no direct incremental cost to extra holidays until the employee leaves and APS pays out unused vacation days that would have otherwise been burned. However, if the employees are less productive because they are working less, that cost can come through in the form of additional employees being needed or things just not getting done.

Thanks for explaining this. Can we just please stop talking about Syphax employees vacation time please? There are soooo many actual important issues that impact kids, and this is not one of them.