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Anonymous
| Pp here. My only point was that many on this board seem focused on the bmw and the parents giving this kid a bmw. I wonder if the tone would be different if the kid had a used Honda or ford. Same kid could have been speeding and same accident. |
Anonymous
This crash reminds me of the death of the high schooler racing his friend on Vale Road in 2004. He was driving a Mazda (I had to just look up the articles from the time but I remember it wasn’t that special of a car, I don’t think.) it was a new car and they were recklessly street racing and he hit a tree. I think the tone today would be pretty similar. He was a very well known kid around town; I was in jr high school at the time and my teacher knew of it and was telling our class about it. I’ll never forget either, she said, “his mother said he was doing what he loved” and I remember thinking at age 13 that was a really ignorant thing for our teacher to repeat to 7th-8th graders. I know that’s a sidetrack from the point, but this story/death always stuck with me. My point is, yes I think the tone would be similar no matter what type of car because the BMW driver made a series of poor choices. The fact that it was a brand new BMW is a factor, but the car itself is not at fault. Based off what we can tell of his character and intelligence, maturity etc, he likely would’ve done the same thing in a Honda or Ford. |
Anonymous
Shouldn't they wait until the investigation is completed? |
Anonymous
Of course. But they’re saying he should watch the funerals from jail. 1 has already occured, if not both. |
Anonymous
It's just the irony, "teen driving a BMW kills 2 pedestrians" |
Anonymous
What is ironic about it being a bmw? It should just be teen driver kills 2 Oakton high students. |
Anonymous
Perhaps the type of car encouraged the behavior. Can you not see a difference in driving styles may exist behind the wheel of a BMW vs. a 15 year old Civic? |
Anonymous
A bunch of popular guys a class above me died in a car crash when I was in high school. Maybe it was because they only killed themselves and not others but the car they were driving was not the focus. They were rich kids and I’m sure the car was probably nice. I just remember how tragic it was. This was before the internet and before forums like this where people could trash talk them. |
Anonymous
The kid but not the Toyota driver? Both were at fault. |
Anonymous
OK, Boris. |
Anonymous
No, I don’t see the difference. We live in an affluent neighborhood full of nice cars. I don’t think it is fair to demonize a kid just because his parents have a little more money. I grew up poor and the boys used to race in their not fancy cars. They also did drugs and drank and drove their not fancy cars. |
Anonymous
Np here. What is Boris?? |
Anonymous
It's not about the cost of the car... If you don't see the difference between giving your teen a BWM vs. a Corolla or a Civic then you're also part of the problem. Just like his naïve parents. |
Anonymous
I posted above that we will probably give our kid one of our used cars. I also said I got my parent’s old Nissan back in the 90s. I also used to drive around their Ford sedan. I think it was a ford. It wasn’t my car. It was theirs and it definitely wasn’t fancy. I truly don’t see the difference. I will remind my kid(s) to be careful drivers. I grew up in an area with a lot of jeeps back in the 90s. Most of the kids didn’t have their own car. They would drive their parent’s jeep, pathfinder, highlander, etc. Would it have mattered if the kid was driving his parent’s Mercedes and it wasn’t a recent gift? I don’t see why the car matters. Dh loves cars. We have multiple nice cars in our garage. Dh was a poor kid and worked hard for his cars. |
Anonymous
yes, the accident would have happened if the 18 yr old was driving any old car the way he drove the BMW. But, the BMW suggests "entitlement" --- that the driver was well-off and apparently felt entitled to go FAR above the speed limit. We see BMW and we see some level of "entitlement" -- that he saw his desires (to speed) as more important that other people's desires to walk or drive in the same area. It's that "entitlement mindset" that really grates on us. Now, it could come out in the facts that the 18 yr old is the sweetest, most humble person who happened to be driving a BMW that had a mechanical defect such that the gas pedal got stuck and it couldn't be stopped.... well, if that happened, then those of us who see "entitlement" when we hear about an 18 yr old driving a BMW would drop our disgust. But, until there is some other explanation for the extreme speed on the part of the BMW, we see the BMW as a symbol of an entitled attitude -- and that entitled attitude killed those girls. |