Seriously with the book banning ?

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Ironically, I remember being required to read some of those books in high school


Additional books listed not shown in the screenshot are:

Empire of Storms by Sarah Maas
Bag of Bones by Stephen King
11/22/63: A Novel by Stephen King
It by Stephen King
Furyborn by Claire Legrand


DP, if I'm reading correctly, the books are set aside in the library and may only be checked out with parental permission?


No, that was the old rule after one of the School Board members told the librarian to do that. Then he brought his list (borrowed from one created by the Christofascists at Focus on the Family) to the whole school board to have them removed completely from the HS library.

Cheers to the Madison County Public Library for making sure everyone, including high schoolers, has access to these books:

When Wingate first proposed removing the books from the high school library, the Madison County Public Library confirmed it had the entire 26 books first proposed to be banned.

Now, with the revised list of 21 books, the county library – based on the library’s online catalog search option –has all but Furyborn available.

Friday, a library spokersperson said they have ordered Furyborn. It will arrive later this month and will be available for circulation.


https://madrapp.com/madison-county-school-board-bans-books-from-high-school-library-p4501-221.htm


Ah. Awful. I mean there are references to s*x in Shakespeare, should they ban his works next?

There’s a ton of s*x in the Bible, too.


Do public high school libraries usually have copies of the Bible? Genuinely curious.
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Ironically, I remember being required to read some of those books in high school


Additional books listed not shown in the screenshot are:

Empire of Storms by Sarah Maas
Bag of Bones by Stephen King
11/22/63: A Novel by Stephen King
It by Stephen King
Furyborn by Claire Legrand


DP, if I'm reading correctly, the books are set aside in the library and may only be checked out with parental permission?


No, that was the old rule after one of the School Board members told the librarian to do that. Then he brought his list (borrowed from one created by the Christofascists at Focus on the Family) to the whole school board to have them removed completely from the HS library.

Cheers to the Madison County Public Library for making sure everyone, including high schoolers, has access to these books:

When Wingate first proposed removing the books from the high school library, the Madison County Public Library confirmed it had the entire 26 books first proposed to be banned.

Now, with the revised list of 21 books, the county library – based on the library’s online catalog search option –has all but Furyborn available.

Friday, a library spokersperson said they have ordered Furyborn. It will arrive later this month and will be available for circulation.


https://madrapp.com/madison-county-school-board-bans-books-from-high-school-library-p4501-221.htm


Ah. Awful. I mean there are references to s*x in Shakespeare, should they ban his works next?

There’s a ton of s*x in the Bible, too.


Do public high school libraries usually have copies of the Bible? Genuinely curious.


I checked a few local high school catalogs when this thread first appeared and they all did, yeah.
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Ironically, I remember being required to read some of those books in high school


Additional books listed not shown in the screenshot are:

Empire of Storms by Sarah Maas
Bag of Bones by Stephen King
11/22/63: A Novel by Stephen King
It by Stephen King
Furyborn by Claire Legrand


DP, if I'm reading correctly, the books are set aside in the library and may only be checked out with parental permission?


No, that was the old rule after one of the School Board members told the librarian to do that. Then he brought his list (borrowed from one created by the Christofascists at Focus on the Family) to the whole school board to have them removed completely from the HS library.

Cheers to the Madison County Public Library for making sure everyone, including high schoolers, has access to these books:

When Wingate first proposed removing the books from the high school library, the Madison County Public Library confirmed it had the entire 26 books first proposed to be banned.

Now, with the revised list of 21 books, the county library – based on the library’s online catalog search option –has all but Furyborn available.

Friday, a library spokersperson said they have ordered Furyborn. It will arrive later this month and will be available for circulation.


https://madrapp.com/madison-county-school-board-bans-books-from-high-school-library-p4501-221.htm


Ah. Awful. I mean there are references to s*x in Shakespeare, should they ban his works next?

There’s a ton of s*x in the Bible, too.


Do public high school libraries usually have copies of the Bible? Genuinely curious.


I checked a few local high school catalogs when this thread first appeared and they all did, yeah.


Time to ban them!
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What's happening in Florida re: books in schools is crazy.

1. Some Facebook posts of Florida teachers' classrooms where they have been told they have to remove all books unless they've been first vetted or on an approved list.







2. School librarians must take a "retraining" program before they are allowed to order new books. Violate the new state standards and you can be charged with a felony.

https://web02.fldoe.org/rules/doc/6A-7.0715_2918.pdf

The training and the state law that it’s based on both explicitly ban pornography in books and instructional materials. The policy relies on the Merriam-Webster definition of pornography, which is “the depiction of erotic behavior (as in pictures or writing) intended to cause sexual excitement.”

Librarians also have to make sure a book is not deemed “harmful to minors,” which the training defines as a book which:

Predominantly appeals to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest;
Is patently offensive to prevailing standards in the adult community as a whole with respect to what is suitable material or conduct for minors; and
Taken as a whole, is without serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value for minors.
If a book in a school library or one used in curriculum is deemed harmful, librarians and media specialists can be charged with a third-degree felony.

One of the factors librarians must consider while curating books for schools is “avoiding unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination.” The training does not define indoctrination, but the voiceover accompanying the training video offers some examples of what can count. “Critical Race Theory, culturally responsive teaching, social justice, social and emotional learning, and any other unsolicited theories that may lead to student indoctrination are prohibited,” the voiceover says.

Librarians are not allowed to add instructional materials that contain any of these theories to classrooms.


https://www.edweek.org/teaching-learning/how-floridas-new-school-librarian-training-defines-off-limits-materials/2023/01

3. A parent just needs to object to a book, and it will be removed

https://www.thefire.org/news/florida-school-district-removes-library-books-response-public-complaints-defying-first
Anonymous
This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.
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Anonymous wrote:This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.


Folks, lets hear from Florida librarians themselves on this topic. I trust their assessment more than an anonymous DCUM poster.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/education/2023/01/22/students-want-new-books-thanks-restrictions-librarians-cant-buy-them/

And throughout Florida, many school librarians have been unable to order books for nearly a year, thanks to their districts’ interpretation of a state law requiring librarians to undergo an online retraining program on “the selection and maintenance of library … collections” — which was not published until this month. Julie Miller, a librarian for the Clay County School District, has not been permitted to order a book since March 2022. In a typical year, she would have ordered 300 titles by now. Instead, she has had more than a hundred conversations with disappointed students seeking fresh titles, she said, especially the latest books in their favorite fantasy series.

One school librarian in Florida’s Monroe County, who has not been allowed to purchase books since last year, said her district is already seeing decreased student interest in and demand for books. The librarian, who spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of losing her job, said circulation is down “dramatically” this year compared with last year because she cannot give students the just-published titles they desire: Students checked out nearly 3,000 titles between August and December 2021, but just 1,800 between August and December 2022.
“The kids who asked for books back in September are still waiting, and they’re just not reading in the meantime,” she said. “I feel like I’m handcuffed.”
On her desk, the librarian keeps three pages of paper that students have covered with the scrawled titles they’d like to read, if only she could order them.

Meanwhile, in Florida’s Clay County, Miller is mourning the loss of her most avid reader.
The student, a sophomore, checked out 301 books last year, far and away the most of any child at school. He spent every lunch inside the library, bent over a book. When she told the boy he was “top patron,” he blushed and smiled. Enamored of the title, he began swinging by the circulation desk every few weeks to ask whether he was still “number one.”
But this year, the student — a huge manga fan — ran into a problem. He finished all of the school’s manga books, and Miller, constrained by her district’s interpretation of state law, was unable to order more. At first, the 10th-grader tried rereading his favorite titles, but that soon grew stale.
After a few weeks, he stopped coming to the library.
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Sexual identity.

So does that mean that they're going to ban any book where there's a heterosexual couple in it? I'm so tired of reading books where a man and a woman are dating or married. I'm so tired of seeing movies about a wedding between a woman and a man. Those sexual identities are just all over the place. They're trying to groom our gay kids and make them straight.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.


School libraries? Classroom libraries?
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Sexual identity.

So does that mean that they're going to ban any book where there's a heterosexual couple in it? I'm so tired of reading books where a man and a woman are dating or married. I'm so tired of seeing movies about a wedding between a woman and a man. Those sexual identities are just all over the place. They're trying to groom our gay kids and make them straight.


Yeah that's always a big blind spot for conservatives who support book bans.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Ironically, I remember being required to read some of those books in high school


Additional books listed not shown in the screenshot are:

Empire of Storms by Sarah Maas
Bag of Bones by Stephen King
11/22/63: A Novel by Stephen King
It by Stephen King
Furyborn by Claire Legrand


DP, if I'm reading correctly, the books are set aside in the library and may only be checked out with parental permission?


No, that was the old rule after one of the School Board members told the librarian to do that. Then he brought his list (borrowed from one created by the Christofascists at Focus on the Family) to the whole school board to have them removed completely from the HS library.

Cheers to the Madison County Public Library for making sure everyone, including high schoolers, has access to these books:

When Wingate first proposed removing the books from the high school library, the Madison County Public Library confirmed it had the entire 26 books first proposed to be banned.

Now, with the revised list of 21 books, the county library – based on the library’s online catalog search option –has all but Furyborn available.

Friday, a library spokersperson said they have ordered Furyborn. It will arrive later this month and will be available for circulation.


https://madrapp.com/madison-county-school-board-bans-books-from-high-school-library-p4501-221.htm


Ah. Awful. I mean there are references to s*x in Shakespeare, should they ban his works next?

There’s a ton of s*x in the Bible, too.


Do public high school libraries usually have copies of the Bible? Genuinely curious.


I'm a junior high school librarian and I have it. It's checked out a lot. I need another copy, in fact.
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Anonymous wrote:


Ironically, I remember being required to read some of those books in high school


Additional books listed not shown in the screenshot are:

Empire of Storms by Sarah Maas
Bag of Bones by Stephen King
11/22/63: A Novel by Stephen King
It by Stephen King
Furyborn by Claire Legrand


DP, if I'm reading correctly, the books are set aside in the library and may only be checked out with parental permission?


No, that was the old rule after one of the School Board members told the librarian to do that. Then he brought his list (borrowed from one created by the Christofascists at Focus on the Family) to the whole school board to have them removed completely from the HS library.

Cheers to the Madison County Public Library for making sure everyone, including high schoolers, has access to these books:

When Wingate first proposed removing the books from the high school library, the Madison County Public Library confirmed it had the entire 26 books first proposed to be banned.

Now, with the revised list of 21 books, the county library – based on the library’s online catalog search option –has all but Furyborn available.

Friday, a library spokersperson said they have ordered Furyborn. It will arrive later this month and will be available for circulation.


https://madrapp.com/madison-county-school-board-bans-books-from-high-school-library-p4501-221.htm


Ah. Awful. I mean there are references to s*x in Shakespeare, should they ban his works next?

There’s a ton of s*x in the Bible, too.


Do public high school libraries usually have copies of the Bible? Genuinely curious.


I'm a junior high school librarian and I have it. It's checked out a lot. I need another copy, in fact.


Lots of mature, adult material in the bible. Might want to get a censored version.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.


Wrong near Lakewood Ranch that library has been decimated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.


They are removing books from SCHOOL Libraries and SCHOOL classrooms.

Stop defending the authoritarianism of the right in Florida.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread reads like demented anti-FL propaganda.

Folks, FL libraries are full of books. I know because I just visited two.

So much hate, so many lies on dcum.


They are removing books from SCHOOL Libraries and SCHOOL classrooms.

Stop defending the authoritarianism of the right in Florida.


I’d like to know if this is accurate: I read a comment from a teacher who said that students would not be allowed to bring their OWN books into their classrooms — since, apparently, there was no simple way to determine if their books are on the vetted list, so the teachers could be held accountable for having these unvetted books in their classrooms.


https://popular.info/p/florida-teachers-told-to-remove-books







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