Fairfax County Double Murder

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Anonymous wrote:She died of blood loss? Doctor said her airway was fine. So the 911 hang up was a deadly delay?

The 911 hang up could have been because she hadn't been attacked yet, or if she had, she wasn't yet close enough to being dead.

This is part of the proof that he was shot before she was stabbed or said another way that she was not already stabbed when they entered the room. They would have called 911 right away for obvious reasons but also because of what we heard today when the Dr and Brendan both acknowledged the injuries were so severe they could not have stopped the blood loss. In what scenario would you not call 911 right away? All that to say, the initial 911 (whether an accident or because Christine said to call 911 per Juliana’s testimony), was because there was an emergency situation that was either not life-threatening or that they wanted to delay the person living. I hope what I’m saying is making sense. Bottom line is that if Brendan had walked in the room seeing his wife so severely injured from stab wounds that she would die of blood loss, they would have called for help right away, not had three separate calls to 911 over a period of 10+ minutes.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm a couple hours behind but watching the audio of Brendan going to hospital. Doctor says "your wife has died."

I assume bluntness by the doctor is the right approach so people can process and understand the news. In a general situation however is it normal for the doctor/officer to stick to their roles and be fairly silent while someone processes the loss of their spouse or do you think they were treading carefully here because it was a crime scene?

I was about to ask that!!! Can someone answer this ?

Training for doctors and similarly for first responders/LEOs is to keep words to a minimum and very clear ‘X has died’ because of the unpredictability of response, cultural differences and difficulty grasping death if euphemisms are used (passed away, no longer with us, in a better place) and for legal precision.

Additionally some doctors and LEOs aren’t really comfortable with death or grief, but they must perform the professional duty of information sharing with next of kin. If you watch much true crime or crime dramas, you’ll see cops speak to one another about the worst part of the job being death notifications. Most doctors feel the same. Some folks being notified lose their shit, some get violent, some blame the messenger etc. It’s not an easy task.

When it comes to LEOs, their training is to being suspicion to the task because they could be notifying the perpetrator so they are always looking for evidence in the way the response unfolds.

For folks who don’t have experience of ER medicine or law enforcement it might be hard to understand what this is like for those of us who do. Imagine if you had to do that kind of thing routinely; there is a lot of vicarious trauma.

Thanks for your response and sharing the protocols with us. Yes, I was really wondering how the doctor was doing listening to that testimony or when she found out. To later find out it was the husband who was charged, etc.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She died of blood loss? Doctor said her airway was fine. So the 911 hang up was a deadly delay?

The 911 hang up could have been because she hadn't been attacked yet, or if she had, she wasn't yet close enough to being dead.

The defense presented evidence today – body cam video/audio – of the doctor telling Brendan her wounds were so severe she could not have survived, and Brenda acknowledging that saying there were so many wounds. If she had already been attacked, why didn’t they call 911 immediately?

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Anonymous wrote:Defense is objecting to things like the photograph with markings to preserve the issue for appeal. Generally on appeal the issue or error has to have been raised contemporaneously to be considered so defense is just doing their job.

I am a little surprised the CW didn’t bring the doctor in or a medical expert to review records. I can understand wanting to stay focused on a cohesive narrative and I think the CW has done a pretty good job of that so far but it seems like it would have been worth it to at least briefly go over those. I guess they got there overall. The dad did say there was a “treatment” that she got, instead of an ongoing medication and it was given by doctors, not the parents. I would assume this was an injection. Overall it seems like it might have been worth it to establish this but I guess I would say I found the dad’s testimony credible.

It doesn't feel like enough to me. I'm not sure they established as a fact in the case that CB had a blood clotting disorder that would have led her to bleed out if she engaged in knife play. Listening solely to the testimony, it sounded like she had to be careful as a kid doe to some unknown condition, but it was managed well enough in adulthood and she participated in many sports and they did not establish that she wore any protective gear or took precautions as an adult. I don't think it's absolutely essential to the CW's case, but it's like, why bring it up if they weren't going to establish it very clearly.

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Is it possible that the clotting disorder isn't even very serious, so they can't really get into it much more than that? Do we even know what disorder it is?

It’s serious enough that they had to take precautions during the child’s birth. Brendan knew that. Probably why he chose this manner of her death. At least that’s what will be presented.

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This witness this afternoon sure loves to hear himself talk. We don’t care about all of your cases at the DOJ. CW is doing a good job of stopping the flow by objecting.

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When was fast and the Furious ?

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Does this poor judge just attract bad actors? BB “crying” in the courtroom is so reminiscent of Amber Heard’s fake tears in her trial.

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Anonymous wrote:Does this poor judge just attract bad actors? BB “crying” in the courtroom is so reminiscent of Amber Heard’s fake tears in her trial.

It reminds me of BIG BOY KYLE crying,

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People keep saying stabbed but based on the ME - it seems she was cut not stabbed. The wounds weren’t deep enough to be considered stab wounds. So if Brendan sliced her jugular, wouldn’t he be covered in spray? What was that digital forensics guy for?

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Anonymous wrote:People keep saying stabbed but based on the ME - it seems she was cut not stabbed. The wounds weren’t deep enough to be considered stab wounds. So if Brendan sliced her jugular, wouldn’t he be covered in spray? What was that digital forensics guy for?

The ME testified that there were shallow and deep cuts. As if someone has made cuts and also pressed the knife in.
That makes sense since Juliana testified that BB was disappointed about the type of knife JR was bringing. According to her, he mentioned a sharper knife would make it easier.

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Among the many, many things I don’t get about these psycho’s plans: why would the dude have killed her? Cut her and raped her, maybe, based on the catfishing. Not saying that would be okay, imo! But it makes no sense that he would stab her to death?

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Starting early tomorrow at 9:30 and asked the jury if they’re available on Friday due to the impending snowstorm so they can stay on schedule.

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Anonymous wrote:Among the many, many things I don’t get about these psycho’s plans: why would the dude have killed her? Cut her and raped her, maybe, based on the catfishing. Not saying that would be okay, imo! But it makes no sense that he would stab her to death?

The defense probably goes something like, "And then he lost control. You know how those sex fiends are."

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Does this poor judge just attract bad actors? BB “crying” in the courtroom is so reminiscent of Amber Heard’s fake tears in her trial.

It reminds me of BIG BOY KYLE crying,

He won. Get over it.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Among the many, many things I don’t get about these psycho’s plans: why would the dude have killed her? Cut her and raped her, maybe, based on the catfishing. Not saying that would be okay, imo! But it makes no sense that he would stab her to death?

The defense probably goes something like, "And then he lost control. You know how those sex fiends are."

So will defense call someone to testify to Joe's temperament, etc? Don't they need to paint him as a killer?