I dont know where you got the the Sept thing but 1 month between players wont make any difference. Sure you go and try to bend the rules to your kids favor all you want. Snowplow away. But don't be surprised when playing down that correct grade parents get tired of you. Also dont be surprised when you try to play your kid up at u14 for college recruiting and the team is full. You seem to think that everything happens in a vacuum and that your actions wont generate a reputation. Just like with college coaches you're not going to sneak by playing down. There will be repercussions. |
These parents aren't filtered out. They club hop and if they're kid is good enough, they've got them on the top MLSN/GA/ECNL teams. Those clubs cater to these parents, BTW, because they all are ruthless and play to win. By recruiting the best players and winning the most, they keep their college pipelines strong as well as the reputation. |
You are even more opinionated and aggressive because you don't like the results. |
Fine make your own dataset. It will be rejected because it has no credibility. Much like the volleyball paper you cited. |
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He's desperate to push this paper down when it is the first piece of research that looks at both club and school cutoffs. He just doesn't like the results so he bashes it.
Chaos Caused by Different Cutoff Dates: Relative Age Effects and Redshirting in Collegiate Volleyball in the United States... https://www.mdpi.com/2075-4663/13/2/53#sports-13-00053-t001 "No matter the confusion caused by the numerous cutoff dates for school in the United States, RAEs are prevalent in men and women’s volleyball when accounting for the school cutoff and athletic timing." |
HAHAHA 😆 😂 😆 So now not only are you advocating playing down you're also advocating club hopping to get what you want. This is why your kid will never play on a top team. You're always going to be on the oddball losers team with all the other oddballs and losers. |
It was published: Publication History Received: 20 November 2024 Revised: 23 January 2025 Accepted: 2 February 2025 Published: 10 February 2025 |
It's not one month, for Aug and Sept kicks playing up a grade, they would be the youngest by 13 months compared to the oldest. Remember that char you showed where December births had the few est pros. It's facts like this that show the right path to excel. Bend the rules. You funny. |
Heres real data driven analysis and conclusions. https://medium.com/@giacorada/the-fascinating-birth-trend-among-professional-soccer-players-b2a48d015e7d
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No, if you get your kid on certain clubs, your kid first of all earned it (it's survival of the fittest at these places), where parents will drive their kid 2+ hours a day for practice AND they get pretty much ALL their players to college (most D1s) and play in the playoffs most of their age groups every year. It's YOU who don't know what it takes for these places. They are like college before college. |
| Can someone just recap for me what this one posted is so upset about? What's his deal? |
I have seen the club hoppers come all the time. Clubs welcome them with open arms and have no problem pushing all the other kids on the team down a peg. You what the parents say? Nothing, because they know that's how sports works from rec to national teams. |
Ok, be August or January/February, as the oldest and avoid being December/June/July as the youngest depending if SY or BY. Makes sense and fits the data. |
With stats from a video game! If I wanted to attack the data -- but I don't unlike YOU. There's a better explanation -- the US has switched its birth month system so of course it's going to look like this. That's why the volleyball is more interesting. It's of actual college players, not pros and it specifically looks at different cut-offs (not done in the medium piece) -- which make it more of where soccer is headed now that it's back to SY. |
Heres part 2 of the study that show exactly the opposite of your nonsense articles without real data try to show. https://medium.com/@giacorada/what-impacts-the-success-of-a-professional-soccer-player-14a2ab4f852a "Finally, it appears that birth month (at least according to our models) has a minimal influence on the success of a player. However, while the impact was small, it was still found that players born later in the year had a positive impact in each position group’s definition of success. This is fascinating as we had determined that a much greater number of professional players are born earlier in the year, more than likely as a result of the global youth development structure." |