Hayfield Football Coach Fired

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The scheudle for students attending the academy: SAMPLE SCHEDULE

Each student's schedule is customized to ensure the right balance of academics, athletics and personal development.

8:05 AM | Arrival
8:10 AM | Academics
9:15 AM | Video/Warm-Up
10:00 AM | Sport-Specific Training
11:05 AM | High Performance Training
12:00 PM | Lunch/Break
12:50 PM | Academics
2:50 PM | Activity/Break
3:00 PM | Academics
4:00 PM | Departure

Four hours of academics? Yeah, this "school" seems legit.

/s

Not intending to defend this school as know nothing about it, but 4 hours is pretty much spot on for the core required VA state classes. How much school time do you think yours is getting in core classes? ES was about 20-40 minutes a day for math and language and science and social studies were traded off for another 30-40 every other day. The rest was share circles and PE and recess. MS is same at around hour each for math, social studies, science and English. HS same but can add other classes as most home school/virtual schools allow kids to do as well, but minimum is all about the same.

So already, based on your math, we are assuming zero foreign language, zero electives, zero arts etc. Thanks for confirming...it is a sham.

Looks like the academic part will be done through some online school and they will have everything you mentioned available.

Wouldn’t call it a sham, but don’t know if the school will get enough kids to be able to field a competitive high school football team. The school won’t have the traditional high school experience. Probably no prom, no homecoming, etc.

Narrator: It's a sham.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

Everyone else who buys a member to The Saint James will have their rates increased to pay for him, his staff, and the kids on "scholarship."

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

To be fair, he has committed crimes before so who is to say he won't do it again?

[Anonymous]

Thanks to poster who recommended the BS High show on Max. Have. Ow read more about the players for that one for where they are now and bankruptcy used a lot and reinvesting/rebranding…. If have $, there are many standing in line to happily take it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

Everyone else who buys a member to The Saint James will have their rates increased to pay for him, his staff, and the kids on "scholarship."

If they successful at what they are trying to do, this won’t happen. Overton already had a Nike sponsorship. Boosters and sponsors will bring in the extra money they may need.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

Everyone else who buys a member to The Saint James will have their rates increased to pay for him, his staff, and the kids on "scholarship."

If they successful at what they are trying to do, this won’t happen. Overton already had a Nike sponsorship. Boosters and sponsors will bring in the extra money they may need.

Overton never had a monetary Nike sponsorship and no intelligent person thought he did. Hayfield had the same standard "sponsorship" agreement with Nike that they ink all the time unimpressive public school programs - slightly discounted rates for uniforms/warmups etc and not much else. You might want to sit this one out.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

Everyone else who buys a member to The Saint James will have their rates increased to pay for him, his staff, and the kids on "scholarship."

If they successful at what they are trying to do, this won’t happen. Overton already had a Nike sponsorship. Boosters and sponsors will bring in the extra money they may need.

Boosters and sponsors? Nobody is going to give a damn to pay these kids way at this place. There's no "boosters and sponsors " for STJ. It's not like Freedom or Hayfield and other REAL schools.

None of these kids are superstars , or superstars in the making. There won't be a line of people waiting to pay for them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There's a million "academy" or "prep" basketball teams that are just some kids doing distance learning and then playing together. Harder to get off the ground for football.

Exactly. People here act as if this hasnt been happening in basketball for 20+ years. I will say trying this in football is a lot harder. In this area only St Francis has been able to make it work. Several others have failed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:IMG has dedicated facilities.

TSJ can't even get Fairfax County permits for football fields b/c not having a rec league and being For-Profit puts them last on the list and the fields are taken before they ever get down that far on the list.

A couple years back they were holding games for a school whose football field wasn’t accessible. They can hold games there.

The were also the "home" field for Rock Creek Christian. That school folded, most of the kids are now at Riverdale Baptist.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a million "academy" or "prep" basketball teams that are just some kids doing distance learning and then playing together. Harder to get off the ground for football.

Exactly. People here act as if this hasnt been happening in basketball for 20+ years. I will say trying this in football is a lot harder. In this area only St Francis has been able to make it work. Several others have failed.

How is Saint Frances similar? Isn’t it a regular catholic school where boys where ties and go to class all day?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a million "academy" or "prep" basketball teams that are just some kids doing distance learning and then playing together. Harder to get off the ground for football.

Exactly. People here act as if this hasnt been happening in basketball for 20+ years. I will say trying this in football is a lot harder. In this area only St Francis has been able to make it work. Several others have failed.

How is Saint Frances similar? Isn’t it a regular catholic school where boys where ties and go to class all day?

https://sfacademy.org/
This St. Francis in Baltimore? It's been around for almost 200 years!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scheudle for students attending the academy: SAMPLE SCHEDULE

Each student's schedule is customized to ensure the right balance of academics, athletics and personal development.

8:05 AM | Arrival
8:10 AM | Academics
9:15 AM | Video/Warm-Up
10:00 AM | Sport-Specific Training
11:05 AM | High Performance Training
12:00 PM | Lunch/Break
12:50 PM | Academics
2:50 PM | Activity/Break
3:00 PM | Academics
4:00 PM | Departure

Four hours of academics? Yeah, this "school" seems legit.

/s

Not intending to defend this school as know nothing about it, but 4 hours is pretty much spot on for the core required VA state classes. How much school time do you think yours is getting in core classes? ES was about 20-40 minutes a day for math and language and science and social studies were traded off for another 30-40 every other day. The rest was share circles and PE and recess. MS is same at around hour each for math, social studies, science and English. HS same but can add other classes as most home school/virtual schools allow kids to do as well, but minimum is all about the same.

So already, based on your math, we are assuming zero foreign language, zero electives, zero arts etc. Thanks for confirming...it is a sham.

Looks like the academic part will be done through some online school and they will have everything you mentioned available.

Wouldn’t call it a sham, but don’t know if the school will get enough kids to be able to field a competitive high school football team. The school won’t have the traditional high school experience. Probably no prom, no homecoming, etc.

IMG has proms, etc. and proven record. If I were to pay the $, I’d just head to FL and go to IMG. I also would have guessed Overton goes and brings his Freedom and Perform Elite kids to win some friendlies for a couple years and then he’ll bounce and the school will hope more kids come but they won’t, but IMG sold for $1.2 billion in 2023 so clearly there is big $ in all this and parents will pay so who knows- maybe $ windfalls coming to Overton and his crew. His Freedom kids will all get free rides and so maybe works out for them too. Non-Freedom parents will foot the bills for it all…. again, like FCPS did last year and is still doing what with ongoing investigation costs.

Having been to the IMG campus, you can't even put STJ in the same with them at all. Their campus couldn't be replicated in NoVA aside from going way out west to Loudoun or maybe somewhere in PWC but that's a stretch too. One turf field to their name, nothing else currently.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There's a million "academy" or "prep" basketball teams that are just some kids doing distance learning and then playing together. Harder to get off the ground for football.

Exactly. People here act as if this hasnt been happening in basketball for 20+ years. I will say trying this in football is a lot harder. In this area only St Francis has been able to make it work. Several others have failed.

How is Saint Frances similar? Isn’t it a regular catholic school where boys where ties and go to class all day?

Yep, it is. Someone is just trying to take a petty swipe at Biff/SFA. It's a legit school and even the football players are held to high academic standards.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The scheudle for students attending the academy: SAMPLE SCHEDULE

Each student's schedule is customized to ensure the right balance of academics, athletics and personal development.

8:05 AM | Arrival
8:10 AM | Academics
9:15 AM | Video/Warm-Up
10:00 AM | Sport-Specific Training
11:05 AM | High Performance Training
12:00 PM | Lunch/Break
12:50 PM | Academics
2:50 PM | Activity/Break
3:00 PM | Academics
4:00 PM | Departure

Four hours of academics? Yeah, this "school" seems legit.

/s

Not intending to defend this school as know nothing about it, but 4 hours is pretty much spot on for the core required VA state classes. How much school time do you think yours is getting in core classes? ES was about 20-40 minutes a day for math and language and science and social studies were traded off for another 30-40 every other day. The rest was share circles and PE and recess. MS is same at around hour each for math, social studies, science and English. HS same but can add other classes as most home school/virtual schools allow kids to do as well, but minimum is all about the same.

So already, based on your math, we are assuming zero foreign language, zero electives, zero arts etc. Thanks for confirming...it is a sham.

Looks like the academic part will be done through some online school and they will have everything you mentioned available.

Wouldn’t call it a sham, but don’t know if the school will get enough kids to be able to field a competitive high school football team. The school won’t have the traditional high school experience. Probably no prom, no homecoming, etc.

IMG has proms, etc. and proven record. If I were to pay the $, I’d just head to FL and go to IMG. I also would have guessed Overton goes and brings his Freedom and Perform Elite kids to win some friendlies for a couple years and then he’ll bounce and the school will hope more kids come but they won’t, but IMG sold for $1.2 billion in 2023 so clearly there is big $ in all this and parents will pay so who knows- maybe $ windfalls coming to Overton and his crew. His Freedom kids will all get free rides and so maybe works out for them too. Non-Freedom parents will foot the bills for it all…. again, like FCPS did last year and is still doing what with ongoing investigation costs.

Having been to the IMG campus, you can't even put STJ in the same with them at all. Their campus couldn't be replicated in NoVA aside from going way out west to Loudoun or maybe somewhere in PWC but that's a stretch too. One turf field to their name, nothing else currently.

Yup. And IMG has a legit academic curriculum (and actual classrooms). They offer AP and honors courses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm going to go out on a limb here and speculate that hardly ANY of Overton's player entourage can afford 30k/year "tuition" at the St James. That's STEEP. I mean come on, some of them were homeless....

How is he going to build a program that is not affordable to almost all local football players.

Everyone else who buys a member to The Saint James will have their rates increased to pay for him, his staff, and the kids on "scholarship."

If they successful at what they are trying to do, this won’t happen. Overton already had a Nike sponsorship. Boosters and sponsors will bring in the extra money they may need.

Boosters and sponsors? Nobody is going to give a damn to pay these kids way at this place. There's no "boosters and sponsors " for STJ. It's not like Freedom or Hayfield and other REAL schools.

None of these kids are superstars , or superstars in the making. There won't be a line of people waiting to pay for them.

In order to get a team of 50 kids, that's $1,500,000 in tuition costs alone (before uniforms, equipment, travel expenses, league expenses, etc). That's a LOT of booster and sponsor dollars to raise in the next 6 months.