Fire in upper NW?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what would trigger them to act if he or they were fired ten years ago. It all seems so strange.


AIW has worked on a lot of big construction projects since 2005. Welders and other construction workers can be laid off, rehired, laid off, rehired, and so on from project to project. Maybe they have been trying to get back on at AIW for years and were told that it was never going to happen because they were blacklisted.


They probably took it as personal to them and not part of the bigger picture of just life as a welder.


I think it was personal. I suspect they were fired for cause and then reacted threateningly and held a grudge (Wint with machete outside the gate; cousin threatening to burn it down), so AIW not only would have flagged their files to not rehire but would give a bad reference to other companies.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:The question is: why are we learning about the cousin's ties to the company now? Am sure the cops have known about this for weeks, so I'm more intrigued about the timing of this info. Anyone care to speculate?


I read this weeks ago..either in the Washington post or on WUSA9 but it was on a local DC news..cousin and brother were inside the box truck Saw where Wints DNA was found in other parts of the crime scene..but the news did not report were it was found
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what would trigger them to act if he or they were fired ten years ago. It all seems so strange.


AIW has worked on a lot of big construction projects since 2005. Welders and other construction workers can be laid off, rehired, laid off, rehired, and so on from project to project. Maybe they have been trying to get back on at AIW for years and were told that it was never going to happen because they were blacklisted.


They probably took it as personal to them and not part of the bigger picture of just life as a welder.


I think it was personal. I suspect they were fired for cause and then reacted threateningly and held a grudge (Wint with machete outside the gate; cousin threatening to burn it down), so AIW not only would have flagged their files to not rehire but would give a bad reference to other companies.


It was all about Money..insider had to be connected..news reported this a few weeks ago..that someone tipped him/them off..At first the $40,000 was for the center?? And it was a planned withdrawal?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol


Ya never know how many investigators are on the case and what might add more credibility.
if that trip can provide credible evidence/documents that show a pattern of behavior exhibited by suspect that continued in the USA and into this case.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol


Ya never know how many investigators are on the case and what might add more credibility.
if that trip can provide credible evidence/documents that show a pattern of behavior exhibited by suspect that continued in the USA and into this case.



Is mpd Maryland Police Dept? Maryland Public Defenders? Could not be that as crimes occurred in DC and suspect has own lawyer. Not sure what mpd is? Of course not talking about police dept but lawyers for family, special investigators.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I wonder what would trigger them to act if he or they were fired ten years ago. It all seems so strange.


AIW has worked on a lot of big construction projects since 2005. Welders and other construction workers can be laid off, rehired, laid off, rehired, and so on from project to project. Maybe they have been trying to get back on at AIW for years and were told that it was never going to happen because they were blacklisted.


They probably took it as personal to them and not part of the bigger picture of just life as a welder.


I think it was personal. I suspect they were fired for cause and then reacted threateningly and held a grudge (Wint with machete outside the gate; cousin threatening to burn it down), so AIW not only would have flagged their files to not rehire but would give a bad reference to other companies.


It was all about Money..insider had to be connected..news reported this a few weeks ago..that someone tipped him/them off..At first the $40,000 was for the center?? And it was a planned withdrawal?


No the money was not for the center. It wasn't a planned withdrawal or delivery. The cash was arranged Wed. night/Thurs. morning as ransom.
Anonymous
Was Wint worried about being deported before he committed this crime? Was it a motivator for him to start gathering money to fight deportation?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol


Ya never know how many investigators are on the case and what might add more credibility.
if that trip can provide credible evidence/documents that show a pattern of behavior exhibited by suspect that continued in the USA and into this case.



Is mpd Maryland Police Dept? Maryland Public Defenders? Could not be that as crimes occurred in DC and suspect has own lawyer. Not sure what mpd is? Of course not talking about police dept but lawyers for family, special investigators.


Metropolitan Police Department: http://mpdc.dc.gov/

Wint has been here 14 years. Can't imagine anything about his early life in Guyana that would be relevant to this investigation.
Anonymous
NP here. I think PP meant Metropolitan Police Department (MPD)

http://mpdc.dc.gov/
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol


Ya never know how many investigators are on the case and what might add more credibility.
if that trip can provide credible evidence/documents that show a pattern of behavior exhibited by suspect that continued in the USA and into this case
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stop.
Anonymous
MPD has alluded to a recent arrest of Wint prior to the murders. He had committed violent crimes previously against girlfriends and the stabbing of a man involved in a confrontation. I wonder if things were catching up to him and that deportation came up with the prior arrest.
Anonymous
His newly hired lawyer is primarily an immigration lawyer. The lawyer said the family was worried about Wint being deported. I think the family has much more than deportation to worry about-- like the death penalty or life in prison.
Anonymous
Not sure about the dates for all of his arrests but I wonder if the firing at AIW was the trigger for his anger and things spiraling out of control in his life after that point. He's a psychopath so rather than realize his own responsibility he probably blamed AIW for the problems that followed and held a grudge.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:If they found Wint's DNA, why haven't they found other DNA at the scene?

Sounds like the cousin was involved too...


cousin and brother were inside the box truck at the time of arrest..there had to be more then one.



Hmmm…..Wonder if the cousin is from Guyana -- so the lawyer could potentially have 2 clients if this cousin becomes a POI or later suspect and arrested.
There is connection between these 2 with common workplace, anger with AIW, and relatives. It would be very interesting to see if LE has visited their home country to learn more about his behavior prior to coming to the states.


mpd does not go to foreign countries to investigate cases, lol


Ya never know how many investigators are on the case and what might add more credibility.
if that trip can provide credible evidence/documents that show a pattern of behavior exhibited by suspect that continued in the USA and into this case.



Is mpd Maryland Police Dept? Maryland Public Defenders? Could not be that as crimes occurred in DC and suspect has own lawyer. Not sure what mpd is? Of course not talking about police dept but lawyers for family, special investigators.


Metropolitan Police Department: http://mpdc.dc.gov/

Wint has been here 14 years. Can't imagine anything about his early life in Guyana that would be relevant to this investigation.


Ahh….Yes, Metro PD. Thanks. So many initials, acronyms.
Your response is well articulated and succinct.
14 years is quite a few years to demonstrate pattern of behavior.
However, my question is more for the court case so that the family's lawyers can provide such iron clad proof that suspect had a well established pattern of behaviour of harboring grudges many, many years back to suspect's childhood and that it is so unlikely to change. So clearly establishing that could prevent any possibility of early termination of prison term and protect family's daughters from grudge harboring behavior in the future.
It is the long term perspective, wider scope and sentencing that I was looking at.
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