FCPS comprehensive boundary review

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the timeline for the maps to be released?

Anyone know the answer to this and can provide a link? It sounds like this is done deal?

nothing has been decided or even proposed

This is not correct. There are three different versions of possible maps.

Do tell. Obviously you’re not going to post them but what are the key differences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What is the timeline for the maps to be released?

Anyone know the answer to this and can provide a link? It sounds like this is done deal?

nothing has been decided or even proposed

This is not correct. There are three different versions of possible maps.

Where are the maps?

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If the person in the know could leak the maps to a reporter, we’d be eternally grateful. You’d be a hero to many.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What is the timeline for the maps to be released?

Anyone know the answer to this and can provide a link? It sounds like this is done deal?

nothing has been decided or even proposed

This is not correct. There are three different versions of possible maps.

Where are the maps?

+1

If the person in the know could leak the maps to a reporter, we’d be eternally grateful. You’d be a hero to many.

Or, in the alternative, forensically capture them somehow so that there is a record, please.

[Anonymous]

There are no "leaked maps", just trolls who want to stir up as many people as possible before anything has been proposed.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only people who appear to be for new boundaries are the people who hate Langley and want to see families who go there now suffer. I can’t for the life of me understand how so many people whose kids don’t go to Forestville could possibly care where Forestville students go to high school. Some people are super passionate about this particular boundary change possibility.

Don’t expect a bunch of students from Forestville to show up at Herndon High School if boundaries change. A majority of the families will send their kids to private after elementary school or use the transfer process to attend Langley.

**My kids do not attend Forestville, but are in the Langley district. Great Falls is united as a community. We want our kids to stay together. These kids are all friends and have been playing sports together in Great Falls for years. We don’t want to see our community torn apart. ESPECIALLY considering Langley is not at capacity (and the even has availability to admit a ton of transfer kids).

You think the county-wide boundary study is prompted by “hate” for Langley?

I think they just realized they’d built out schools like Herndon to have hundreds of empty seats while other schools are overcrowded, and it was time to look at boundaries holistically with an eye towards consolidating attendance areas rather than continue to make odd, one-off adjustments.

Can’t really see the logic for continuing to bus kids over 10 miles to Langley if there is now space available closer at Herndon. Great Falls is unincorporated Fairfax just like other areas where kids are assigned to multiple schools. And your apparent readiness to send your kids off to different privates suggests you’re more intent on avoiding Herndon than keeping kids together anyway.

It’s your call sign on this board to repeat the same discredited talking point about distance. You put no substance behind it other than crying about ten miles.

A real analysis would include how much time and or money would be saved, and we know why you don’t ever bring either up, because you’ve got nothing to back up your rather vapid complaints.

You seem to be forgetting that years ago when both Herndon and Langley had capacity, western Great Falls went to Herndon. They only started schlepping kids to Langley when Herndon got overcrowded. Now it has extra capacity again.

I think it makes sense for some Great Falls / Herndon neighborhoods to be moved to Herndon High School because of it’s location.

As a Herndon High parent, it really wouldn’t make a difference in my kids’ education. Herndon is a great school with supportive teachers. It’s central location means my kids friends are all a close distance. A big plus is all the extra parking.

If you get moved to Herndon, and you are too afraid to send your kids there, please go to private. I don’t want my DC to have to share a class with a disgruntled former Langley bound student.

Did they enlarge the parking lot? I haven't been over there since before the renovation.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:There are no "leaked maps", just trolls who want to stir up as many people as possible before anything has been proposed.

Are you at gatehouse? If not, not sure how you can definitively state this.

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is in a death spiral, if the board goes through with boundary changes there will be no pulling out of it.

But I suspect they are too prideful and stupid to do the right thing.

While they haven't done a county-wide study in years, there have been multipe boundary changes since 2008. They apparently didn't affect you, so you didn't blather on about a "death spiral" at the time.

Time to put on the big boy pants.

Sorry you can’t see what is coming. Each superintendent is worse than the last. Test scores keep falling. No one wants to sacrifice their kid to make failing schools look better. This will lead to vouchers in VA and the collapse of FCPS.

Oh vouchers are coming but not for those reasons. They’re coming because y’all elected a bunch of far-right oligarchs who want to privatize anything and everything. Get ready for a bunch of hastily-assembled “schools” where a minimum-wage hourly worker supervises students watching Amazon and Meta-built AI content all day long. Suddenly these boundary arguments are going to seem pretty quaint

Surely FCPS isn't so bad that so many parents would spend their vouchers at "hastily assembled 'schools'" rather than continue to send their children to FCPS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCPS is in a death spiral, if the board goes through with boundary changes there will be no pulling out of it.

But I suspect they are too prideful and stupid to do the right thing.

While they haven't done a county-wide study in years, there have been multipe boundary changes since 2008. They apparently didn't affect you, so you didn't blather on about a "death spiral" at the time.

Time to put on the big boy pants.

Sorry you can’t see what is coming. Each superintendent is worse than the last. Test scores keep falling. No one wants to sacrifice their kid to make failing schools look better. This will lead to vouchers in VA and the collapse of FCPS.

Oh vouchers are coming but not for those reasons. They’re coming because y’all elected a bunch of far-right oligarchs who want to privatize anything and everything. Get ready for a bunch of hastily-assembled “schools” where a minimum-wage hourly worker supervises students watching Amazon and Meta-built AI content all day long. Suddenly these boundary arguments are going to seem pretty quaint

Surely FCPS isn't so bad that so many parents would spend their vouchers at "hastily assembled 'schools'" rather than continue to send their children to FCPS?

I’m just glad to see funding cuts as deep as possible because of these boundary changes, even if I don’t send my kids private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:There are no "leaked maps", just trolls who want to stir up as many people as possible before anything has been proposed.

Are you at gatehouse? If not, not sure how you can definitively state this.

Because not one shred of proof has been posted yet. The schedule slide from tonight's meeting showed the "Data Collection" phase happening until March. Then the "Data Analysis and Draft Scenarios" phase runs March - June. That would be the first opportunity for any working maps to "leak" out. Anyone posting theories right now just trying to generate as much adversity to the realignment plan as possible to try to tank it. They are posting controversial changes that make no sense in order to do exactly that.

Everyone is afraid their kids are going to get the bad end of whatever happens. It's easy to stir people up right now.

[Anonymous]

The only changes the BRAC should even be considering are the slam dunks. Fix overcrowding where necessary. Get rid of the islands and split feeders when it's easy. Moving kids around and upsetting whole neighborhoods just to marginally improve a FARMS rate here or there is lunacy.

[Anonymous]

I just saw an article with Melanie Meren defending the upcoming boundary changes.

Hypocrites like her wait until their own schools (Madison) get additions, and then pontificate about how other kids should be redistricted, regardless of what they or their families want.

She is an utterly despicable person.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The only changes the BRAC should even be considering are the slam dunks. Fix overcrowding where necessary. Get rid of the islands and split feeders when it's easy. Moving kids around and upsetting whole neighborhoods just to marginally improve a FARMS rate here or there is lunacy.

It doesn't add up. Imagine you are Reid or SB. 8130 update passed. Dealing with phone calls and emails from concerned parents. Contracting Thru with a sense of urgency and without using traditional compete process. Dealing with resulting scrutiny. Consistently messaging boundary changes Fall 2026 and stirring everyone up. More angry phone calls and emails to deal with. All of this and you are going to risk a BRAC getting in your way?

It's almost certain that Reid and Gatehouse have been working with Thru behind closed doors and they have drawn up scenarios. At this point they are probably using the napkin notes from the BRAC meetings to pitch the boundary changes in a way that makes it difficult for BRAC members to challenge them when proposed.

I think we are putting our heads in the sand if we believe BRAC parent recommendations will be followed. Gatehouse aligned interest groups and Vanessa were specifically appointed to the BRAC so they can drown out our parents representing pyramids and ensure boundary changes happen.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The only changes the BRAC should even be considering are the slam dunks. Fix overcrowding where necessary. Get rid of the islands and split feeders when it's easy. Moving kids around and upsetting whole neighborhoods just to marginally improve a FARMS rate here or there is lunacy.

It doesn't add up. Imagine you are Reid or SB. 8130 update passed. Dealing with phone calls and emails from concerned parents. Contracting Thru with a sense of urgency and without using traditional compete process. Dealing with resulting scrutiny. Consistently messaging boundary changes Fall 2026 and stirring everyone up. More angry phone calls and emails to deal with. All of this and you are going to risk a BRAC getting in your way?

It's almost certain that Reid and Gatehouse have been working with Thru behind closed doors and they have drawn up scenarios. At this point they are probably using the napkin notes from the BRAC meetings to pitch the boundary changes in a way that makes it difficult for BRAC members to challenge them when proposed.

I think we are putting our heads in the sand if we believe BRAC parent recommendations will be followed. Gatehouse aligned interest groups and Vanessa were specifically appointed to the BRAC so they can drown out our parents representing pyramids and ensure boundary changes happen.

GD I’d be livid if I were one of the community representatives on that committee.

What a scandal.

[Anonymous]

People, the real work behind redistricting has already been done. There have got to be are already draft plans in place—this isn’t something that’s being worked out from scratch once these meetings are fine. Balancing enrollment, adjusting boundaries, and ensuring that the numbers mostly work for each school has been calculated already. It’s not a mystery! Move this neighborhood here, that one there, etc etc. It’s a simple formula and uses data that we already have.

When people here act as though there’s still a lot of debate or that the plan is in process, it shows a lack of understanding about how these decisions are made in within FCPS recently. Public opinion might change things at the margins for some school on a limited basis, but the demographics and school capacities have already been analyzed and balenced. Anyone who still believes the process is in the “early stages” is just clueless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People, the real work behind redistricting has already been done. There have got to be are already draft plans in place—this isn’t something that’s being worked out from scratch once these meetings are fine. Balancing enrollment, adjusting boundaries, and ensuring that the numbers mostly work for each school has been calculated already. It’s not a mystery! Move this neighborhood here, that one there, etc etc. It’s a simple formula and uses data that we already have.

When people here act as though there’s still a lot of debate or that the plan is in process, it shows a lack of understanding about how these decisions are made in within FCPS recently. Public opinion might change things at the margins for some school on a limited basis, but the demographics and school capacities have already been analyzed and balenced. Anyone who still believes the process is in the “early stages” is just clueless.

I’m with you 100%. The work’s already done, but some people are just dragging this out to act like they have a say, when really, they’re just wasting time.