Boundary Review Meetings

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Anonymous wrote:Keene Mill ES (THE big AAP center for WSHS) showed a decrease from 825 at the end of last school year to 740 in September? What’s going on with that?


Did one of their feeder schools add level 4 AAP?


I’m not sure, I thought they all had LLIV apart from the two schools that go to Sangster instead of KMES for AAP. It did look like last years 6th grade class/this year’s 7th is pretty large, so maybe they just weren’t weren’t replaced by as many kids. But thats still a big drop off. Does anyone know if they had any de-staffing?


Orange Hunt and Hunt Valley lost teachers this year.

All of those WSHS feeders are decreasing in size.

It is a shame the FCPS won't do residency checks between elementary > middle school and between middle school > high school.

I suspect if FCPS did residency checks at those transitions, as well as enforcing no transfers at schools closed to transfers, that WSHS would have an enrollment very close to capacity instead of several hundred over capacity and would not need to be rezoned.


Cardinal Forest UP 20 students
708 September 2024 vs 728 September 2025

Hunt Valley DOWN 68 students students
724 September 2024 vs 656 September 2025

Keene Mill (AAP center with students from other pyramids) DOWN 72 Students
812 September 2024 vs 740 September 2025

Orange Hunt (German Immersion with kids from other pyramids) DOWN 25 Students
875 September 2024 vs 850 September 2025

Rolling Valley (splits with Key/Lewis, also a special ed center) UP 15 students
519 September 2024 vs 534 September 2025

West Springfield ES DOWN 43 Students
542 September 2024 vs 499 September 2025

** Sangster sends around 100-150 students to WSHS each year. Sangster enrollment is basically flat, with a loss of 1 student.
928 September 2024 vs 927 September 2025


The WSHS pyramid elementary schools are down almost 200 students this year, yet the FCPS CIP projections show WSHS continuing significant growth over the next five years.

Why won't FCPS do a residency check at WSHS to figure out why there is such a discrepancy between their elementary and middle school enrollment, and the high school projections and enrollment?


It makes no sense that WSHS is the only HS around this area (LBSS, Hayfield, Lewis, South County) where enrollment is up every year while the others are either flat or essentially down. I thought the school was closed to transfers. It's not like the population of this area is growing.
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Irving is up from 1211 last September to 1238 this September, and Lake Braddock is up from 1458 to 1466. No reason to keep pretending West Springfield isn't going to remain overcrowded for years to come.


There were multiple MD license plates in the drop off line for Irving last year.
Residency checks now!
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Anonymous wrote:Looks like Irving is up from 1211 last September to 1238 this September, and Lake Braddock is up from 1458 to 1466. No reason to keep pretending West Springfield isn't going to remain overcrowded for years to come.


Lake Braddock still has capacity, is open to transfers, and not getting rezoned based on overcapacity.

If WSHS was under capacity, open to transfers, and not getting rezoned, no one at WSHS would care about this.

We want residency checks, as well as any transfers sent from WSHS to schools that are not closed to transfers, so every family getting disrupted by rezoning knows that the numbers used to justify rezoning are accurate and they aren't getting rezoned to accomkdate families living out of boundary and zoned to other schools.

That is not an unreasonable request.

Sending the 50-60 transfers to other schools that are open, such as Lake Braddock or South County, would eliminate one trailer.

Who knows how much the enrollment would drop if WSHS did a residency check? Even 10-15 students per grade would eliminate the 2nd trailer.
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Private school kids k-8, then they go to WSHS.
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Anonymous wrote:Private school kids k-8, then they go to WSHS.


There are a handful of UMC/wealthy and largely White high schools that have been renovated or expanded that are separating themselves from the rest of FCPS in attracting more kids now: Langley, Madison, Robinson, and West Springfield.

People sense that FCPS has played favorites and they gravitate towards those schools. And then the families there fight like hell against moving anywhere else.
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Anonymous wrote:Private school kids k-8, then they go to WSHS.


There are a handful of UMC/wealthy and largely White high schools that have been renovated or expanded that are separating themselves from the rest of FCPS in attracting more kids now: Langley, Madison, Robinson, and West Springfield.

People sense that FCPS has played favorites and they gravitate towards those schools. And then the families there fight like hell against moving anywhere else.


Oakton also got a phenomenal renovation. I’d say the best renovated high schools in all FCPS are Langley and Oakton. Haven’t been to the new Falls Church yet, which isn’t quite finished, but that should be on par—I hope.
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


They said Evening. I'd bet a whole lot of money that they're waiting until all the admin are home for the weekend so there's no one that has to answer phone calls about it until Monday.

Our school does the same for AAP decisions, they come out after the AAP teacher has gone home for the weekend and the AAP teacher makes it abundantly clear that she will not be looking at her email or phone messages until she is back in the following week.


I bet it comes at 11:59pm.
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


I’m guessing between 5-6. Then they’ll all skip town for the long weekend until Tuesday morning.


I didn’t even put together they are off Monday.

Someone form fairfacts matters said that BRAC hadn’t even received scenario 4 yet
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


They said Evening. I'd bet a whole lot of money that they're waiting until all the admin are home for the weekend so there's no one that has to answer phone calls about it until Monday.

Our school does the same for AAP decisions, they come out after the AAP teacher has gone home for the weekend and the AAP teacher makes it abundantly clear that she will not be looking at her email or phone messages until she is back in the following week.


I bet it comes at 11:59pm.


That would certainly take the Friday night bad news dump to a new level
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


I’m guessing between 5-6. Then they’ll all skip town for the long weekend until Tuesday morning.


I didn’t even put together they are off Monday.

Someone form fairfacts matters said that BRAC hadn’t even received scenario 4 yet


The first community meeting is Monday night. And they still haven't released the maps. This is so unprofessional.
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


I’m guessing between 5-6. Then they’ll all skip town for the long weekend until Tuesday morning.


I didn’t even put together they are off Monday.

Someone form fairfacts matters said that BRAC hadn’t even received scenario 4 yet


The first community meeting is Monday night. And they still haven't released the maps. This is so unprofessional.


Just ask yourself - if they struggle so mightily to release sensible proposals in a timely manner, what makes them think they could actually implement boundary changes without major screw-ups?
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Anonymous wrote:Will they really release this after 5pm?


I’m guessing between 5-6. Then they’ll all skip town for the long weekend until Tuesday morning.


I didn’t even put together they are off Monday.

Someone form fairfacts matters said that BRAC hadn’t even received scenario 4 yet


The first community meeting is Monday night. And they still haven't released the maps. This is so unprofessional.


Just ask yourself - if they struggle so mightily to release sensible proposals in a timely manner, what makes them think they could actually implement boundary changes without major screw-ups?


I don't think they struggle at all. They just don't care. Because they will still win 12-0 at the next school board election.
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I think evening is 7:00.
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The wait is ridiculous. It’s almost 8pm!
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I feel like we’re not going to see anything today and then we’ll get a 7 paragraph long email from Reid on Tuesday at 4:30 saying that there was a delay and we thank you for your patience, and it will have a link to the new maps but the link will be broken and no one will fix it until Wednesday some time.
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