Is $TSLA a buy here?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
Tesla up today on incentives for current owners.

https://electrek.co/2025/04/25/tesla-tsla-brings-back-fsd-transfer-offers-2000-loyalty-discount-amid-demand-crisis/

This makes some sense since current owners like the car. Our in-laws just bought a new Lexus EV and it's not nearly as clean in terms of the software and design. They actually have a "power" button and lots of other buttons. You actually have to lock and unlock the car manually (which Tesla does through the app on your phone when you approach or leave the car which is super convenient). Very confusing set up on the Lexus, but of course the interior is nice. The Lexus still has a knob on the console to turn up volume. Tesla has everything on the steering wheel . . . so much better. It also has better range. So, no other EVs are not "better".

So if you forget you phone the car stays unlocked? My phone is often out in the car and usually charging. Keys stay in my purse the whole time and won’t be forgot. My 10 year old car locks when I walk away and unlocks when I approach.

Knob control for volume is the gold standard. Touchscreen or WHEEL BUTTONS are sad compromise to save money. You’ll notice many companies are putting back volume knobs. Tactile controls that you can use with out looking, and aren’t moving around while you are trying to steer the car.

A power button or other tactile command to engage the engine is a smart choice; it’s the arming command ready for the fire command sequence of driving.

Read up on how Chekov actor died when his novel transmission shifter left his car in neutral. Somethings have been honed down to good design, rather than whiz bang change for changes sake. Or to save money, like the manual back door release on Teslas, what a death trap.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here just taking a victory lap. The stock is up 34% in the last three weeks.

I’m not taking a victory lap because I think I’m so smart. Actually, it’s the opposite: it was so *obvious* that the only reason the stock dropped 50% was that people were using the stock as a way to voice their displeasure with Elon Musk’s political accomplishments.

All the other explanations that people tried to make this thread—that it’s just a meme stock, that the P/E ratio is too high, and so on—were nonsensical because all of those things were true before DOGE began its work. For those explanations to make sense, one would have to believe that the market suddenly realized that $TSLA was an unjustifiable bubble at the exact same time the Democrats began foaming at the mouth over USAID cuts. Of course, this is utter nonsense.

To be clear, while I am still continuing to hold $TSLA, it very well still *could* be a bubble. The point I was making was that there was no rational reason, based on the business or the industry or the broader market, that the stock price should’ve dropped 50% in a matter of weeks. Indeed, it was just one of those unusual moments that harkened back to the types of situations that caused Charlie Munger to say, “If others had not been so stupid, we would not be so rich.”

So the lesson of this thread is the following: YOU. DON’T. MAKE. INVESTMENT. DECISIONS. BASED. ON. POLITICS.

It is an unjustified bubble and a meme stock, DOGE & Musk Co was the just the prick needed to pop hit.

It only went up because of politics back during the pandemic, as a company it’s way way overpriced

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Tesla profit is from carbon trading, not selling cars.


Isn't that a woke climate thing that is basically forbidden under the current administration?

Tesla’s carbon credits are helping automakers meet strict EU emission targets. Companies like Stellantis, Toyota, Ford, Mazda, and Subaru buy Tesla’s credits to offset their emissions and avoid hefty fines. European fines are high.

So when you buy one of those cars you are also giving money to Elon. So don't buy a car.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:
OP here just taking a victory lap. The stock is up 34% in the last three weeks.

I’m not taking a victory lap because I think I’m so smart. Actually, it’s the opposite: it was so *obvious* that the only reason the stock dropped 50% was that people were using the stock as a way to voice their displeasure with Elon Musk’s political accomplishments.

All the other explanations that people tried to make this thread—that it’s just a meme stock, that the P/E ratio is too high, and so on—were nonsensical because all of those things were true before DOGE began its work. For those explanations to make sense, one would have to believe that the market suddenly realized that $TSLA was an unjustifiable bubble at the exact same time the Democrats began foaming at the mouth over USAID cuts. Of course, this is utter nonsense.

To be clear, while I am still continuing to hold $TSLA, it very well still *could* be a bubble. The point I was making was that there was no rational reason, based on the business or the industry or the broader market, that the stock price should’ve dropped 50% in a matter of weeks. Indeed, it was just one of those unusual moments that harkened back to the types of situations that caused Charlie Munger to say, “If others had not been so stupid, we would not be so rich.”

So the lesson of this thread is the following: YOU. DON’T. MAKE. INVESTMENT. DECISIONS. BASED. ON. POLITICS.


It is an unjustified bubble and a meme stock, DOGE & Musk Co was the just the prick needed to pop hit.

It only went up because of politics back during the pandemic, as a company it’s way way overpriced

Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.

[Anonymous]

So if you forget you phone the car stays unlocked? My phone is often out in the car and usually charging. Keys stay in my purse the whole time and won’t be forgot. My 10 year old car locks when I walk away and unlocks when I approach.

Knob control for volume is the gold standard. Touchscreen or WHEEL BUTTONS are sad compromise to save money. You’ll notice many companies are putting back volume knobs. Tactile controls that you can use with out looking, and aren’t moving around while you are trying to steer the car.

A power button or other tactile command to engage the engine is a smart choice; it’s the arming command ready for the fire command sequence of driving.

Read up on how Chekov actor died when his novel transmission shifter left his car in neutral. Somethings have been honed down to good design, rather than whiz bang change for changes sake. Or to save money, like the manual back door release on Teslas, what a death trap.

The insurance industry has deemed it a safe car. Look at the stats on Teslas versus other cars. Teslas are doing well on safety.

[Anonymous]

So if you forget you phone the car stays unlocked? My phone is often out in the car and usually charging. Keys stay in my purse the whole time and won’t be forgot. My 10 year old car locks when I walk away and unlocks when I approach.

Knob control for volume is the gold standard. Touchscreen or WHEEL BUTTONS are sad compromise to save money. You’ll notice many companies are putting back volume knobs. Tactile controls that you can use with out looking, and aren’t moving around while you are trying to steer the car.

A power button or other tactile command to engage the engine is a smart choice; it’s the arming command ready for the fire command sequence of driving.

I agree that you should not buy a Tesla if this is your habit and change is hard for you.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
OP here just taking a victory lap. The stock is up 34% in the last three weeks.

I’m not taking a victory lap because I think I’m so smart. Actually, it’s the opposite: it was so *obvious* that the only reason the stock dropped 50% was that people were using the stock as a way to voice their displeasure with Elon Musk’s political accomplishments.

All the other explanations that people tried to make this thread—that it’s just a meme stock, that the P/E ratio is too high, and so on—were nonsensical because all of those things were true before DOGE began its work. For those explanations to make sense, one would have to believe that the market suddenly realized that $TSLA was an unjustifiable bubble at the exact same time the Democrats began foaming at the mouth over USAID cuts. Of course, this is utter nonsense.

To be clear, while I am still continuing to hold $TSLA, it very well still *could* be a bubble. The point I was making was that there was no rational reason, based on the business or the industry or the broader market, that the stock price should’ve dropped 50% in a matter of weeks. Indeed, it was just one of those unusual moments that harkened back to the types of situations that caused Charlie Munger to say, “If others had not been so stupid, we would not be so rich.”

So the lesson of this thread is the following: YOU. DON’T. MAKE. INVESTMENT. DECISIONS. BASED. ON. POLITICS.


It is an unjustified bubble and a meme stock, DOGE & Musk Co was the just the prick needed to pop hit.

It only went up because of politics back during the pandemic, as a company it’s way way overpriced

Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.

I would say Tesla better be careful due to liability but it's you who will be getting a $5mil judgement against you when your "self-driving" car inevitably runs over someone.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.


I would say Tesla better be careful due to liability but it's you who will be getting a $5mil judgement against you when your "self-driving" car inevitably runs over someone.

If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.


I would say Tesla better be careful due to liability but it's you who will be getting a $5mil judgement against you when your "self-driving" car inevitably runs over someone.

If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.

New poster. How does it make driving easier?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.


I would say Tesla better be careful due to liability but it's you who will be getting a $5mil judgement against you when your "self-driving" car inevitably runs over someone.


If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.

^ And just to add . . . if you are a person who takes their eyes off the road and does not heed the warnings, Tesla will take away your FSD (at least for a period of time). It's like a kid who needs a "time out" in order to behave better. I am 100% sure that I drive better and safer with FSD.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:


If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.


New poster. How does it make driving easier?

You don't have to steer or use the pedals so if you have arthritis in your shoulders or problems that make your foot ache with a lot of braking, it's great. I am elderly and really like that. It also has the cameras so it can see when to change lanes more easily than I can. It makes those kinds of moves better and faster than I would. It also just takes a lot of stress out of driving because it knows exactly where the turns are. Sometimes when you use Google maps on your phone or something like that it will say "turn in x number of feet" and there may be a couple of turning possibilities. Tesla knows exactly which turn to make and you don't have to guess on that since it is executing the turns. That is very helpful. I don't know of another car that can do that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here just taking a victory lap. The stock is up 34% in the last three weeks.

I’m not taking a victory lap because I think I’m so smart. Actually, it’s the opposite: it was so *obvious* that the only reason the stock dropped 50% was that people were using the stock as a way to voice their displeasure with Elon Musk’s political accomplishments.

All the other explanations that people tried to make this thread—that it’s just a meme stock, that the P/E ratio is too high, and so on—were nonsensical because all of those things were true before DOGE began its work. For those explanations to make sense, one would have to believe that the market suddenly realized that $TSLA was an unjustifiable bubble at the exact same time the Democrats began foaming at the mouth over USAID cuts. Of course, this is utter nonsense.

To be clear, while I am still continuing to hold $TSLA, it very well still *could* be a bubble. The point I was making was that there was no rational reason, based on the business or the industry or the broader market, that the stock price should’ve dropped 50% in a matter of weeks. Indeed, it was just one of those unusual moments that harkened back to the types of situations that caused Charlie Munger to say, “If others had not been so stupid, we would not be so rich.”

So the lesson of this thread is the following: YOU. DON’T. MAKE. INVESTMENT. DECISIONS. BASED. ON. POLITICS.

I don’t intentionally align good outcomes for me with good outcomes for fascists. There are thousands of other stocks to choose from. Wouldn’t have invested in a Nazi German company in the 30s for the same reason. Interesting attempt at dodging the issue on your part, tho!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.


New poster. How does it make driving easier?

You don't have to steer or use the pedals so if you have arthritis in your shoulders or problems that make your foot ache with a lot of braking, it's great. I am elderly and really like that. It also has the cameras so it can see when to change lanes more easily than I can. It makes those kinds of moves better and faster than I would. It also just takes a lot of stress out of driving because it knows exactly where the turns are. Sometimes when you use Google maps on your phone or something like that it will say "turn in x number of feet" and there may be a couple of turning possibilities. Tesla knows exactly which turn to make and you don't have to guess on that since it is executing the turns. That is very helpful. I don't know of another car that can do that.

Thank you!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


Disagree. We bought our Tesla a year ago. The strides made in self driving are impressive. We just got back from Philly. The car drove us all the way there and back on FSD. It couldn't do that a year ago when we bought it. It also learns from our commands (just commanded it to go a different way to our house yesterday and today it took that route without the command. It is impressive. Sorry to tell you this.


I would say Tesla better be careful due to liability but it's you who will be getting a $5mil judgement against you when your "self-driving" car inevitably runs over someone.

If it runs over someone, it will be my fault. I accept that. When you drive with FSD, it is "supervised driving" and you are liable. You click a button every time that tells you that so it's no surprise that you are responsible. If you take your eyes off the road the car will give you a warning to put your eyes back on the road. But it makes driving a whole lot easier.

Is this true? If so, doesn’t this undermine two of the main purported benefits of FSD, namely (1) that it allows the creation of a robotaxi fleet, where the cars become driverless Ubers instead of sitting in a garage while the owners are at work, and (2) that it unlocks huge productivity increases because one can now work during a commute instead of focusing on the road?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here just taking a victory lap. The stock is up 34% in the last three weeks.

I’m not taking a victory lap because I think I’m so smart. Actually, it’s the opposite: it was so *obvious* that the only reason the stock dropped 50% was that people were using the stock as a way to voice their displeasure with Elon Musk’s political accomplishments.

All the other explanations that people tried to make this thread—that it’s just a meme stock, that the P/E ratio is too high, and so on—were nonsensical because all of those things were true before DOGE began its work. For those explanations to make sense, one would have to believe that the market suddenly realized that $TSLA was an unjustifiable bubble at the exact same time the Democrats began foaming at the mouth over USAID cuts. Of course, this is utter nonsense.

To be clear, while I am still continuing to hold $TSLA, it very well still *could* be a bubble. The point I was making was that there was no rational reason, based on the business or the industry or the broader market, that the stock price should’ve dropped 50% in a matter of weeks. Indeed, it was just one of those unusual moments that harkened back to the types of situations that caused Charlie Munger to say, “If others had not been so stupid, we would not be so rich.”

So the lesson of this thread is the following: YOU. DON’T. MAKE. INVESTMENT. DECISIONS. BASED. ON. POLITICS.

I don’t intentionally align good outcomes for me with good outcomes for fascists. There are thousands of other stocks to choose from. Wouldn’t have invested in a Nazi German company in the 30s for the same reason. Interesting attempt at dodging the issue on your part, tho!

Yes, please keep this up! This rhetoric worked so well for you that you lost the popular vote to Hitler 2.0, including massive losses among the minorities who ostensibly have the most to lose under Nazi rule.

I can’t wait for eight years of JD Vance after Trump has finished taking a wrecking ball to your worthless institutions!