Is $TSLA a buy here?

[Anonymous]

TSLA's value is almost entirely goodwill for Elon Musk. Look at the P/E, the market share everything?

What's their moat?
They have competition, but people buy because Elon's personality is their marketing.

That worked when he maintained the Tony Stark persona 10 years ago.

[Anonymous]

Yes, time to buy and should have been buying for years. If you don't want Tesla, Palantir and Nvidia are good too.
How much you want to make? It's going to $1000 and then $2000, because it's not a car company, but you have to handle to stock coming back to your cost basis of $260.
I don't care how low it comes. I sold at 80 shares at $350 and can buy them back now @ $260.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd say it's a speculative buy opportunity. Leaving politics out of it, which many here seem incapable of doing, it's clear that Musk is a visionary businessman. His track record is undeniably impressive, his companies are leading edge in areas of potential unlimited growth, and have been successful. That doesn't mean his every business venture will succeed, or that the path to profitability will be linear and consistent, but I'd never bet against him.

The current political climate is affecting his businesses, adding an additional element of likely volatility, so investing now has to be characterized as speculative, at least in the near term.

Even if you are investing in him he has so much going on with Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and DOGE I don't see how he can meaningfully devote himself to all of these ventures. Being a CEO is a 24/7 job and he is spreading himself very thin.

Also, the OP assumes other companies won't catch up to him with, that may or may not be true.

[Anonymous]

I have been making a fortune shorting tsla over the last few weeks, and I believe it has further to fall.

There is only one reason to buy: because you buy into the Musk hype.

Let me give you some reasons not to buy: the PE ratio is insane. Now combine that PE ratio with falling sales and margins as competition from Chinese and European companies intensifies. The battery technology is not at the forefront and the quality control is poor. The build quality is abysmal. They are way behind Waymo on autonomous taxis, and their FSD is behind Mercedes. Robots? They have no technology and no market.

And without getting political, I will just say that no liberal will buy one now. So let’s draw a Venn diagram of the potential market. Draw a circle for environmentally conscious people. Draw another circle for people who like fascists. Now, that tiny part where the two intersect? That is your market. Good luck with that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say it's a speculative buy opportunity. Leaving politics out of it, which many here seem incapable of doing, it's clear that Musk is a visionary businessman. His track record is undeniably impressive, his companies are leading edge in areas of potential unlimited growth, and have been successful. That doesn't mean his every business venture will succeed, or that the path to profitability will be linear and consistent, but I'd never bet against him.

The current political climate is affecting his businesses, adding an additional element of likely volatility, so investing now has to be characterized as speculative, at least in the near term.

Even if you are investing in him he has so much going on with Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and DOGE I don't see how he can meaningfully devote himself to all of these ventures. Being a CEO is a 24/7 job and he is spreading himself very thin.

Also, the OP assumes other companies won't catch up to him with, that may or may not be true.

SpaceX is ALL Shotwell. And he knows it. That’s why he has kept a woman in charge for this long despite his beliefs

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yes, time to buy and should have been buying for years. If you don't want Tesla, Palantir and Nvidia are good too.
How much you want to make? It's going to $1000 and then $2000, because it's not a car company, but you have to handle to stock coming back to your cost basis of $260.
I don't care how low it comes. I sold at 80 shares at $350 and can buy them back now @ $260.

Yes, Trump supporters, put on your red hat and buy lots and lots of these stocks! Especially anything AI. Everyone on Wall Street agrees that the fundamentals are strong and they are undervalued.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have been making a fortune shorting tsla over the last few weeks, and I believe it has further to fall.

There is only one reason to buy: because you buy into the Musk hype.

Let me give you some reasons not to buy: the PE ratio is insane. Now combine that PE ratio with falling sales and margins as competition from Chinese and European companies intensifies. The battery technology is not at the forefront and the quality control is poor. The build quality is abysmal. They are way behind Waymo on autonomous taxis, and their FSD is behind Mercedes. Robots? They have no technology and no market.

And without getting political, I will just say that no liberal will buy one now. So let’s draw a Venn diagram of the potential market. Draw a circle for environmentally conscious people. Draw another circle for people who like fascists. Now, that tiny part where the two intersect? That is your market. Good luck with that.

Robots, forgot about those

https://youtu.be/TsNc4nEX3c4?si=nz96lDOGPUKINC0Q

[Anonymous]

Yeah OP, go for it. Put as much as you can into TSLA.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'd say it's a speculative buy opportunity. Leaving politics out of it, which many here seem incapable of doing, it's clear that Musk is a visionary businessman. His track record is undeniably impressive, his companies are leading edge in areas of potential unlimited growth, and have been successful. That doesn't mean his every business venture will succeed, or that the path to profitability will be linear and consistent, but I'd never bet against him.

The current political climate is affecting his businesses, adding an additional element of likely volatility, so investing now has to be characterized as speculative, at least in the near term.

Even if you are investing in him he has so much going on with Tesla, SpaceX, Twitter and DOGE I don't see how he can meaningfully devote himself to all of these ventures. Being a CEO is a 24/7 job and he is spreading himself very thin.

Also, the OP assumes other companies won't catch up to him with, that may or may not be true.

SpaceX is ALL Shotwell. And he knows it. That’s why he has kept a woman in charge for this long despite his beliefs

It's still a company totally dependent on government contracts, and the CEO is toxic to any government except Trump.

[Anonymous]

I have been holding it since 2018 when it was $15 a share, and have added more along the way and plan on doing the same for the next 10 years.
It is a disruptive company with great products and execution and that's all I care about. It is as simple as that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yes, time to buy and should have been buying for years. If you don't want Tesla, Palantir and Nvidia are good too.
How much you want to make? It's going to $1000 and then $2000, because it's not a car company, but you have to handle to stock coming back to your cost basis of $260.
I don't care how low it comes. I sold at 80 shares at $350 and can buy them back now @ $260.

Yes, Trump supporters, put on your red hat and buy lots and lots of these stocks! Especially anything AI. Everyone on Wall Street agrees that the fundamentals are strong and they are undervalued.

Yes if anything, AI is undervalued. Definitely bid OpenAI up into the trillions. They have a great use for that money.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'd say it's a speculative buy opportunity. Leaving politics out of it, which many here seem incapable of doing, it's clear that Musk is a visionary businessman. His track record is undeniably impressive, his companies are leading edge in areas of potential unlimited growth, and have been successful. That doesn't mean his every business venture will succeed, or that the path to profitability will be linear and consistent, but I'd never bet against him.

The current political climate is affecting his businesses, adding an additional element of likely volatility, so investing now has to be characterized as speculative, at least in the near term.

Dude, his erratic behavior created current political and economic climate of chaos and put the chaos monkey in charge. Good luck with any long term investments! His superpower is reckless, uninhibited risk taking, but it is obvious that it has backfired and his business empire will inevitably fail because it is propped up by people investing in him and his hype not in his business's fundamentals. Oligarchs like him either go nuts (like H. Hughes, Getty, Vanderbilt) or fall out of the windows like in Russia. I bet Elon will go in a way similar to those guys.

[Anonymous]

Gog ask chatbot about Russian oligarchs who got too close to the fire. Interesting read and a lot of untimely and suspicious deaths.

[Anonymous]

There’s nothing irrational about hating musk. And anyone that uses the term TDS is an idiot. I hope you make poor investments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Yeah OP, go for it. Put as much as you can into TSLA.

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