Is $TSLA a buy here?

Anonymous

^BYD already has an FSD like system. It's too late. But people there like the Tesla and are buying it. Tesla can compete.
Anonymous
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And that makes FSD important for many, many people.


Yes, when we get Level 5 it will be a game changer.

FSD is Level 2


Maybe YOU need level 5, but lots of people enjoy level 2. Driving is a very personal experience. Level 2 has already made an impact.


Level 2 is MORE dangerous than nothing. Basically drivers attention drifts and they lose situational awareness since they aren’t driving, then the car jump scares you and says “take the wheel now”
Anonymous
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Here's the thing. If you drive a lot in your area, you know where the complex situations are. I know, for example, that road construction is going on just outside my neighborhood. Although I am pretty sure FSD can handle it, I don't put on the FSD there. I have not lost situational awareness . . . in fact my situational awareness is better! Do I like FSD . . . yes. Why? Because it handles almost all situations faster and better than I do. I am 67 years old and my reflexes are not nearly as good as the car. It can change lanes more safely because it "sees" everything. I have to check mirrors, turn my head and that takes time. The car does this much more quickly. Do I want it to be level 5? Of course. But it is very, very good and I have come to know situations where I need to be watching more carefully. It has taken a whole lot of stress out of driving for me right now. I use it every single time I drive now because it has gotten that good. It's great for expressway driving as it maintains speed, changes lanes, tells you when exits are coming and executes them, merges very well. That's really worth it driving on the beltway. It has never made a mistake there.


I will agree with you that most 70 year olds shouldn’t be driving. FSD could be better than that cohort.

Sure I think on highways FSD is a good choice it’s essentially cruise control. Way simpler problem space.


And that makes FSD important for many, many people.

Not just for elderly people, but for everyone who could be tired, confused in new situation with directions, have bad eye sight in some lighting conditions, or has distractions in the car wrangling kids, pets, etc. A minor distraction with FSD will keep you on the road, but without can result in an accident. During long drives if a person at the wheel nods off for a couple of seconds FSD will keep the car safe on the road while beeping to warn the driver. It makes a big difference. It's like extra layer of attention and an extra driver that can take over.
Anonymous

Anonymous wrote:


And that makes FSD important for many, many people.

Not just for elderly people, but for everyone who could be tired, confused in new situation with directions, have bad eye sight in some lighting conditions, or has distractions in the car wrangling kids, pets, etc. A minor distraction with FSD will keep you on the road, but without can result in an accident. During long drives if a person at the wheel nods off for a couple of seconds FSD will keep the car safe on the road while beeping to warn the driver. It makes a big difference. It's like extra layer of attention and an extra driver that can take over.


Yep. In a regular car if the driver nods off there could very well be an accident. With FSD you are warned and there is an alarm to wake you up. You are not allowed to become situationally unaware because the car is monitoring your eyes all the time. I don't think the previous poster understands this.
Anonymous
No, EV market will fade away, in favor of hydrogen powered cars. All comes down to the infrastructure. Today’s gas stations will become tomorrow’s hydrogen stations.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:No, EV market will fade away, in favor of hydrogen powered cars. All comes down to the infrastructure. Today’s gas stations will become tomorrow’s hydrogen stations.


The highly flammable element that tends to explode? A company like Tesla isn't capable of taking consumer safety serious enough to get anyone to buy a hydrogen powered car.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:


And that makes FSD important for many, many people.

Not just for elderly people, but for everyone who could be tired, confused in new situation with directions, have bad eye sight in some lighting conditions, or has distractions in the car wrangling kids, pets, etc. A minor distraction with FSD will keep you on the road, but without can result in an accident. During long drives if a person at the wheel nods off for a couple of seconds FSD will keep the car safe on the road while beeping to warn the driver. It makes a big difference. It's like extra layer of attention and an extra driver that can take over.


Yep. In a regular car if the driver nods off there could very well be an accident. With FSD you are warned and there is an alarm to wake you up. You are not allowed to become situationally unaware because the car is monitoring your eyes all the time. I don't think the previous poster understands this.


I don’t think you understand situational awareness. Your eyes can be looking but you aren’t seeing. I’m assuming you work in a office job, never worked in operations or a factory?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:No, EV market will fade away, in favor of hydrogen powered cars. All comes down to the infrastructure. Today’s gas stations will become tomorrow’s hydrogen stations.


The highly flammable element that tends to explode? A company like Tesla isn't capable of taking consumer safety serious enough to get anyone to buy a hydrogen powered car.


Correct, hydrogen powered cars will come from Toyota, BMW, VW but not Tesla. Hydrogen will begin to have majority of auto market around 2050. Until then IC engines will continue to rule.
Anonymous
China already has battery tech locked down, I guess Tesla will just be a robotics company?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-21/china-road-trip-exposes-list-of-uninvestable-assets-in-the-west
Anonymous

China already has battery tech locked down, I guess Tesla will just be a robotics company?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-...e-assets-in-the-west


Paywall so can't read this.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, EV market will fade away, in favor of hydrogen powered cars. All comes down to the infrastructure. Today’s gas stations will become tomorrow’s hydrogen stations.


The highly flammable element that tends to explode? A company like Tesla isn't capable of taking consumer safety serious enough to get anyone to buy a hydrogen powered car.
I propose naming the first hydrogen car, The Hindenburg. What could possibly go wrong?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No, EV market will fade away, in favor of hydrogen powered cars. All comes down to the infrastructure. Today’s gas stations will become tomorrow’s hydrogen stations.


The highly flammable element that tends to explode? A company like Tesla isn't capable of taking consumer safety serious enough to get anyone to buy a hydrogen powered car.


Correct, hydrogen powered cars will come from Toyota, BMW, VW but not Tesla. Hydrogen will begin to have majority of auto market around 2050. Until then IC engines will continue to rule.


Just absurd. If you thought it was difficult to permit EV charging stations wait til you try to permit H2 stations. And where is all this H2 coming from, and who is distributing it? The only way it could possibly be affordable is if electricity is cheap which a) seems unlikely and b) just suggests we should use EVs.

The idea that we will go from a single model of hydrogen vehicle in 2025 to a a whole new fuel infrastructure and a majority of the market in 2050 is silly.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:China already has battery tech locked down, I guess Tesla will just be a robotics company?

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-09-21/china-road-trip-exposes-list-of-uninvestable-assets-in-the-west


Again, the idea that you can be worth trillions making robots, which are already a very mature market, is insane.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:


Yep. In a regular car if the driver nods off there could very well be an accident. With FSD you are warned and there is an alarm to wake you up. You are not allowed to become situationally unaware because the car is monitoring your eyes all the time. I don't think the previous poster understands this.


I don’t think you understand situational awareness. Your eyes can be looking but you aren’t seeing. I’m assuming you work in a office job, never worked in operations or a factory?


And you think this never happens in an ICE car? If it happens in "operations or a factory" it can be dangerous as well. I don't know why you think it would be more dangerous in a car with FSD (Supervised).
Anonymous

Andres Sheppard is a 5 star analyst.

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