Billionaire heiress abducted during her Friday morning run in Memphis

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Anonymous wrote:So far, from the lovely people on this thread, we’ve learned that the victim was:

1) A slutty slutterson who doesn’t even wear her full red gown and white wimple while running

2) A wrinkled crone who is aging too quickly

3) An over-exaggerating smiler

4) A teacher but probably a lazy trust fund teacher who is taking a job from someone who really needs it but who is also lazy but also she shouldn’t be working

5) A selfish, slutty, stupid athlete who runs at the wrong time of day but also doesn’t even run fast enough to run away from someone who surprised her, maybe with a weapon, like geez girl why couldn’t you outsprint him

6) On drugs herself. We’re just guessing, but maybe probably

Good thing when bad things happen, angels among us swoop in to help. Y’all are like those helpers that Mr. Rogers always told us to look for in a bad situation.

No one called her a “slut” except you. Weirdo.

I don’t think anyone criticized her attire; perfectly acceptable for running in the summer in the South. There were legitimate other concerns expressed in this thread - time of day, level of crime in Memphis, husband’s checkered past, etc.

One obnoxious old schoolmarm early in the thread bleated about how she iNcReAsEd hEr rIsK by wearing summer appropriate running clothes in the hot as hell South, but somehow PP has generalized it beyond that, because they’re not very bright.

It was hot as hell at 4:30 am? Ok.

Yes. Do you not understand humidity in Tennessee? It is never “cool” this time of year, even in the middle of the night, and certainly not when you’re distance running. Duh.

If only they lived next to a D1 university with a nine-figure Nike deal and world class indoor athletic training facilities…

Thanks for letting us know you know nothing about how distance runners train (pro tip: it’s not indoors on flat tracks in the air conditioning).

Pro-tip: being around to raise your kids is more important than getting your miles in.

I think many runners have addiction and mental health issues. They displace one addiction for an addiction to running and exercise. I’m assuming anyone defending her reckless routine are fellow irrational running addicts.

WOW read the room. Maybe we should all never venture out after dark? It sounds like she was busy raising her kids, working, volunteering with her church... Running was probably the only thing she did just for herself. I was assaulted when I was younger & yes, it was after dark. Afterwards I barely left the house for a year. Finally I decided I wasn't willing to live like that, life is for living and and the victim blaming is appalling.

NP. And never mind after dark; I once got held up at gunpoint at 2 p.m. in broad daylight, near a church, with my husband walking beside me an dozens of other people are around. Please do tell me all the things I did wrong and am blameful for and how I deserved it in that scenario. Things happen, even in broad daylight, even with other people around. So let’s stop with this victim-blaming mentality.

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Anyone can be a victim of crime at any time, however one can lower their risk by being selective about where and when they go places. The risk never goes to zero, but varies a lot.

Consider the following difference between a dark evening and sunny afternoon:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11179947/Jennifer-Lopez-Ben-Affleck-wear-matching-white-ensembles-heading-Malibu-Chili-Cook-Off.html

(Having a security detail and paps in tow of course is an asset, but you get the idea)

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Anonymous wrote:For those asking for example of their social media:

“Yesterday marked 7 years married to this beauty! If you were to ask us at year 3 if we would make it to 7 we probably would of said NO! We apparently weren’t given the memo that a healthy marriage is not going to come easy. Luckily, we put God/Recovery first, we were both willing to believe in each other, and asked for help.”

“We are so thankful for individual counseling, couples counseling, recovery and friends! We can honestly say we wouldn’t have it any other way!”

In March 2022, the preschool teacher also mentioned her marriage with Richard as she noted: “Yesterday marked 8 years married to @fletch_livves. To say it has all been rainbows, prettiness, Hollywood movies, and easy would be a lie. I am grateful for every 2922 day of these 8 years. We have worked hard, showed up, failed, forgiven, and loved. Thank you Richie! Love you! Lets make a beautiful mess of many more years together.

Sounds like they have faced addiction issues, which touch literally every extended family in this country, if you’re willing to be honest. And they’ve faced the good times and the hard times and are honest about that: so what? You’d think it would be healthier if someone in recovery from addiction and their spouse pretended everything was perfect and beautiful 100% of the time? Because we’ve all seen those types on social media, too, haven’t we? I’d rather see people be honest about the difficulties AND joys of marriage and family with addiction recovery as a factor. Because when other people who suffer see that with hard work you can have a marriage and a family, that’s important. Good for them for being so honest.

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Anonymous wrote:I hope I’m never in the news for something like this. DCUM would go wild trying to figure out why my life is the way it is.

Same. I think that what happened to her is terrible, and I truly pray that she is rescued.

I’ve never thought DCUM was uglier than today. Time for a break for sure. Some of you people are honestly horrible. Thank you for the few of you who called the heartless vultures out on their disgusting behavior.

+100. There are many people on this thread who should be very, VERY ashamed of themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:For those asking for example of their social media:

“Yesterday marked 7 years married to this beauty! If you were to ask us at year 3 if we would make it to 7 we probably would of said NO! We apparently weren’t given the memo that a healthy marriage is not going to come easy. Luckily, we put God/Recovery first, we were both willing to believe in each other, and asked for help.”

“We are so thankful for individual counseling, couples counseling, recovery and friends! We can honestly say we wouldn’t have it any other way!”

In March 2022, the preschool teacher also mentioned her marriage with Richard as she noted: “Yesterday marked 8 years married to @fletch_livves. To say it has all been rainbows, prettiness, Hollywood movies, and easy would be a lie. I am grateful for every 2922 day of these 8 years. We have worked hard, showed up, failed, forgiven, and loved. Thank you Richie! Love you! Lets make a beautiful mess of many more years together.

Sounds like they have faced addiction issues, which touch literally every extended family in this country, if you’re willing to be honest. And they’ve faced the good times and the hard times and are honest about that: so what? You’d think it would be healthier if someone in recovery from addiction and their spouse pretended everything was perfect and beautiful 100% of the time? Because we’ve all seen those types on social media, too, haven’t we? I’d rather see people be honest about the difficulties AND joys of marriage and family with addiction recovery as a factor. Because when other people who suffer see that with hard work you can have a marriage and a family, that’s important. Good for them for being so honest.

Amen. I couldn’t agree more. I hope she is found today, the sooner the better.

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Anonymous wrote:For those asking for example of their social media:

“Yesterday marked 7 years married to this beauty! If you were to ask us at year 3 if we would make it to 7 we probably would of said NO! We apparently weren’t given the memo that a healthy marriage is not going to come easy. Luckily, we put God/Recovery first, we were both willing to believe in each other, and asked for help.”

“We are so thankful for individual counseling, couples counseling, recovery and friends! We can honestly say we wouldn’t have it any other way!”

In March 2022, the preschool teacher also mentioned her marriage with Richard as she noted: “Yesterday marked 8 years married to @fletch_livves. To say it has all been rainbows, prettiness, Hollywood movies, and easy would be a lie. I am grateful for every 2922 day of these 8 years. We have worked hard, showed up, failed, forgiven, and loved. Thank you Richie! Love you! Lets make a beautiful mess of many more years together.

Sounds like they have faced addiction issues, which touch literally every extended family in this country, if you’re willing to be honest. And they’ve faced the good times and the hard times and are honest about that: so what? You’d think it would be healthier if someone in recovery from addiction and their spouse pretended everything was perfect and beautiful 100% of the time? Because we’ve all seen those types on social media, too, haven’t we? I’d rather see people be honest about the difficulties AND joys of marriage and family with addiction recovery as a factor. Because when other people who suffer see that with hard work you can have a marriage and a family, that’s important. Good for them for being so honest.

+1 million! I totally agree with what you've said here.

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Judge set bail for (alleged) perp at 500k. That means 50k and he's out.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/eliza-fletcher-abduction-memphis-judge-sets-bond-man-charged-relation-kidnapping

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone can be a victim of crime at any time, however one can lower their risk by being selective about where and when they go places. The risk never goes to zero, but varies a lot.

Consider the following difference between a dark evening and sunny afternoon:

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-11179947/Jennifer-Lopez-Ben-Affleck-wear-matching-white-ensembles-heading-Malibu-Chili-Cook-Off.html

(Having a security detail and paps in tow of course is an asset, but you get the idea)

You're nuts. You know that, right?

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Anonymous wrote:With everything that has been reported, IMO this was a sex crime of opportunity committed by the person in custody. Women have said he is a creep and propositioned them for sex, he stares at some,, he had a juvenile record that included rape. Now someone on here reported that the female college track team reported a black SUV creeping and than ran in that area.

I do not believe the husband was involved and I don’t believe that she survived the attack. I feel sorry for the family. Her mother looks completely depleted. I am sure that her sons will be surrounded with love.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:Judge set bail for (alleged) perp at 500k. That means 50k and he's out.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/eliza-fletcher-abduction-memphis-judge-sets-bond-man-charged-relation-kidnapping

I really don't understand why anyone in our legal system thinks it's okay for him to be released.

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Anonymous wrote:1. k-12 at Hutchison: $300k
2. bachelor's at Baylor: $250k
3. master's at Belmont: $100k

A Southern elite with $650k+ in private education and she's only a pre-K "teacher" at age 34? Anyone in education knows pre-K isn't actually a teacher and you certainly don't need $650k in credentials to do it. Something very odd about all of this, especially how a gal like this even lets a man like him orbit her.

Whether she's a preK or kindergarten teacher (I've heard both), i cannot believe you made such a critical condescending comment. We should be glad to have and encourage well-educated teachers at all grade levels. If she doesn't need a high-paying job, what's it to you? Many people love teaching young children.

She presumably didn’t meet her husband until her late 20s and didn’t have children until around age 30. So she’s been a pre-K teacher for 10 years (since age 23 or 24 after getting her master’s in Nashville), well before marriage and kids came into the picture, and hasn’t advanced? It’s a bit strange.

hardly. princess diana was a preschool teacher aide before marrying. definitely one of the paths of young women w/established family money who are basically waiting to get married.

You proved my point. Diana was a teenage pre-k teacher. Diana married at year 20. This year 34 gal has elite diploma, bachelor’s and master’s degrees, and she’s doing a job she’s overqualified for.

Maybe she likes the job? If she was happy why did she have to chase the paycheck?

Sure. Or maybe there’s some there there. All of the pre-k teachers I know are fresh out of undergrad and do it for a year or two.

And those i know make a career out of it and don’t do it for the money because they are already wealthy. They like the hours and like kids. Imagine that.

I know two preschool teachers old enough to collect Social Security. They continue to teach because they love the kids and helping them learn and prepare for kindergarten. PP is ridiculous.

My son’s preschool teacher was a multi-millionaire (prominent family, $2 mn dollar home in DC.) she taught because she liked little kids and wanted to help them grow

I’m not an heiress but I also teach preschool and have a high income husband and a multi million net worth. I don’t do it for the money. I also graduated from a top university and grad school. I was a SAHM for many years and now teach preschool. No regrets and I wouldn’t change a thing!

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Anonymous wrote:Does this remind anyone else of the movie Fargo? Down to the nitwit husband being an unscrupulous salesman. If the billionaire in-laws thought he was worth a damn he wouldn’t be wasting his working prime at boat dealership. They’d groom him for corporate life, like the Woody Allen movie Match Point.

What are you talking about? The granddaughter was not involved in the business. So why would her husband be given a job? You have to stop watching so much tv. It’s a hardware business that is family owned. The business had 3 billion in revenues. Operating margin at Home Depot are 15%. The grandfather co-ran the business with other people. This means there are other family members, the business is not liquid and the grandfather is not a billionaire. He may be worth a few million. She is not an heiress.

I’m just bumping this smart post about the money angle.

It’s actually pretty inaccurate. If someone has 50% of a business w/ those revs and the small amount of debt it has, they are not worth just a few million unless they have been giving away millions annually and not investing anything.

Something tells me that you don’t know what revenue means.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge set bail for (alleged) perp at 500k. That means 50k and he's out.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/eliza-fletcher-abduction-memphis-judge-sets-bond-man-charged-relation-kidnapping

I really don't understand why anyone in our legal system thinks it's okay for him to be released.

The new DA is pro-bail reform, so everyone gets to walk.

https://tennesseelookout.com/2022/08/25/mulroy-aclu-announce-changes-to-shelby-countys-cash-bail-system/

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Anonymous wrote:Within Tennessee, more than 100% of the communities have a lower crime rate than Memphis. In fact, after researching dangerous places to live, NeighborhoodScout found Memphis to be one of the top 100 most dangerous cities in the U.S.A.

You can’t have “more than 100%” of something. When discussing a portion of something, 100% is all of it. You can’t have more than 100% of something. The only time one uses percentages over 100% is when discussing a growth rate.

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Anonymous wrote:Judge set bail for (alleged) perp at 500k. That means 50k and he's out.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/eliza-fletcher-abduction-memphis-judge-sets-bond-man-charged-relation-kidnapping

I really don't understand why anyone in our legal system thinks it's okay for him to be released.

The new DA is pro-bail reform, so everyone gets to walk.

https://tennesseelookout.com/2022/08/25/mulroy-aclu-announce-changes-to-shelby-countys-cash-bail-system/

Where did common sense go?