ROI for attending 70K+ colleges & Universities

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Anonymous wrote:$70K?? Jesus Christ, why? That seems just nuts.

many schools are are nearing $85k now...

For what, though? If my kid wanted to go somewhere that cost $85K I would think I did a terrible job raising them with any understanding of the value of a dollar.

If my kid got into Columbia or Chicago or Harvey Mudd or Northwestern (currently the most expensive cost of attendance), I'd probably be proud of them, but to each their own

I know someone at Columbia whose 2021 summer internship earning was enough to pay off her college student loan 2 times over. It’s well worth it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

THere are boot camp grads who make $115k/yr - without the cost of GMU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting.

You're gonna have to back that up with real stats. Do you have a link showing these salaries?

Also, are you posting on the right thread? Seems an appropriate comment on that other thread on the WSJ story about boys not going to college.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting.

You're gonna have to back that up with real stats. Do you have a link showing these salaries?

Also, are you posting on the right thread? Seems an appropriate comment on that other thread on the WSJ story about boys not going to college.

Funny, why didn’t you ask OP for stats on what GMU students make? OP made a generalization after citing 1 - yes, a sample size of 1 - who was hired by his or her low-level firm, as if all GMU grads make $115k/ur right out of college.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

What's the median salary for GMU Comp Sci grads?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

What's the median salary for GMU Comp Sci grads?

“Salary of CompSci Graduates with a Bachelor's Degree
The median salary of compsci students who receive their bachelor's degree at GMU is $69,400. This is great news for graduates of the program...”

https://www.collegefactual.com/colleges/george-mason-university/academic-life/academic-majors/computer-information-sciences/computer-science/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting.

You're gonna have to back that up with real stats. Do you have a link showing these salaries?

Also, are you posting on the right thread? Seems an appropriate comment on that other thread on the WSJ story about boys not going to college.

Funny, why didn’t you ask OP for stats on what GMU students make? OP made a generalization after citing 1 - yes, a sample size of 1 - who was hired by his or her low-level firm, as if all GMU grads make $115k/ur right out of college.

Salaries for a specific employer are, of course, private transactions, there is nothing public to publish. However, the claimed $115k salary is in line with published salary information from CMU. Surely a bootcamp would be crowing about their amazing salaries with published data, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

$115K per year is mid to lower tier firm. High-mid to top tier firms offer $150,000-200,000/year right out of college. We need stats from these firms, not the lower level firms that hire mostly state or boot camp grads.

Here we go again with the insane DC Urban Moms: Prestige Hunters. A kid making $115k out of college is PHENOMENAL. Truly an amazing accomplishment. We all should have been so fortunate when we graduated. But you choose to move the goalposts. "Oh yeah? Well other kids make $150-$200k out of college." Like that's normal, to be expected. As if all CMU/MIT/Stanford/Cal grads are making $150-$200k.

FYI: The median CMU computer science salary out of the school (2019, 2020) was $118,000. You can see this yourself on their outcomes dashboard:
https://www.cmu.edu/career/outcomes/post-grad-dashboard.html

That $115k salary is right around the median, not some poor slob underperformer at CMU.

Yes, but there are boot camp grads that make $115k - without the cost of the tuition at state universities you are touting.

You're gonna have to back that up with real stats. Do you have a link showing these salaries?

Also, are you posting on the right thread? Seems an appropriate comment on that other thread on the WSJ story about boys not going to college.

Funny, why didn’t you ask OP for stats on what GMU students make? OP made a generalization after citing 1 - yes, a sample size of 1 - who was hired by his or her low-level firm, as if all GMU grads make $115k/ur right out of college.

Salaries for a specific employer are, of course, private transactions, there is nothing public to publish. However, the claimed $115k salary is in line with published salary information from CMU. Surely a bootcamp would be crowing about their amazing salaries with published data, right?

“Salary of CompSci Graduates with a Bachelor's Degree

The median salary of compsci students who receive their bachelor's degree at GMU is $69,400. This is great news for graduates of the program...”


Woopy do.

[Anonymous]

GMU’s own published stats says their CS grads make $59,700. It then paid an homage to Stanford whose grads blew GMU out of the water.


https://cec.gmu.edu/news/2014-12/computer-science-grads-see-strong-earning-potential

[Anonymous]

Best ROI bang for your buck is to do 2 years at NOVA Community College, and get the guaranteed path to UVA.

Only pay 2 years of UVA tuition, but graduate with the same degree as all the other suckers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

You have a middle class view of money, college, and working.

what does this even mean?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Best ROI bang for your buck is to do 2 years at NOVA Community College, and get the guaranteed path to UVA.

Only pay 2 years of UVA tuition, but graduate with the same degree as all the other suckers.

The post just had a piece about just how hard it is to transfer credits between community and 4 year state schools

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/how-to-fight-big-universities-that-stomp-on-your-local-college-credits/2021/09/04/b1ea4114-0c37-11ec-9781-07796ffb56fe_story.html

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

You have a middle class view of money, college, and working.

what does this even mean?

OP must be a striver immigrant: “the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.”