ROI for attending 70K+ colleges & Universities

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:DD is at an ivy. She got a summer internship based on a relationship with a prof whose class she took. Her internship mentor had a friend working on her campus that he called to recommend her for a research spot. Connections have helped.

My daughter goes to a little liberal arts college in Pennsylvania and almost the exact thing happened to her. I am not sure why Ivy is relevant.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:College is about more than your first job. Peer groups are important, too. Some people make life long friendships in college that turn into business partnerships, career opportunities, private investing opportunities, marriages. I'm hoping my son will go to an ivy or a nescac school and continue his team sport there. I'll love him just the same wherever he ends up, but I'm gently nudging him that direction and prepared to pay for it.

This. It's a whole different college experience too. The people you meet, things you learn, the interaction with professors.

[Anonymous]

Imagine if you spent 4 years at a Buddhist monastery, but got exact same 115k/year job ultimately. Same life experience? No.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Imagine if you spent 4 years at a Buddhist monastery, but got exact same 115k/year job ultimately. Same life experience? No.

In a financial transaction, YES

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:College is about more than your first job. Peer groups are important, too. Some people make life long friendships in college that turn into business partnerships, career opportunities, private investing opportunities, marriages. I'm hoping my son will go to an ivy or a nescac school and continue his team sport there. I'll love him just the same wherever he ends up, but I'm gently nudging him that direction and prepared to pay for it.

This. It's a whole different college experience too. The people you meet, things you learn, the interaction with professors.

This can be done at any schools.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We just hired five recently CS graduates in our technology division; one from CMU, one from Northeastern, one from UCLA, one from UVA, and one from GMU. All of them were offered the same salary at 115K/year. In other words, the graduate from GMU makes the same salary as the graduate from CMU and Northeastern, and the cost to attend GMU is more than less than half of CMU and Northeastern.

I guess I am missing your point.

My husband and I are both graduates of Michigan State. Our kids who are old enough to be in college or to have graduated have all attended Ivy or Top 20 schools.

Are you saying that my husband and I made the "better" choice according to you? Ssssppppffffffftt. Like we care about what you think. We went to the best schools for us that had the best ratings for majors we were interested in. If I hadn't attended Michigan State then I would have attended Cornell because Michigan State has the #1 program in the country and Cornell has the #2 program in the country. See how that works?

Our kids are at schools that are the best fit for them. They chose other schools that had the best programs of study for the subjects they were interested in. They made the right choices for them.

I feel sorry for you, OP, with your limited vision of the world. That you can only see price as the important commodity. You don't understand the concept of "value" very much, do you?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD is at an ivy. She got a summer internship based on a relationship with a prof whose class she took. Her internship mentor had a friend working on her campus that he called to recommend her for a research spot. Connections have helped.

My daughter goes to a little liberal arts college in Pennsylvania and almost the exact thing happened to her. I am not sure why Ivy is relevant.

OP's point is that both of you are overpaying. OP only cares about how much money it costs. An Ivy and a LAC would be too highfalutin for OP and he has a lot of disdain for both of you for sending your kids there.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If anyone wants to base a college search on ROI, then they are free to do so.

Just don't assume the rest of us are idiots for not doing so. Stay open to the possibility that different people can prioritize different things. If they are not spending your money, it is not your concern.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Without more stats, this could be the case of one stellar GMU CS student, two average UVA and NW CS grads + one below average CMU CS grad.

It may just prove that even an below average CMU CS student, who didn't end up at FAANG with > $150K salary could still get a decent job.

Just saying...

And you said it well!

[Anonymous]

GW=thanks for your money and get sick.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD is at an ivy. She got a summer internship based on a relationship with a prof whose class she took. Her internship mentor had a friend working on her campus that he called to recommend her for a research spot. Connections have helped.

My daughter goes to a little liberal arts college in Pennsylvania and almost the exact thing happened to her. I am not sure why Ivy is relevant.

OP's point is that both of you are overpaying. OP only cares about how much money it costs. An Ivy and a LAC would be too highfalutin for OP and he has a lot of disdain for both of you for sending your kids there.

it was cheaper than our state school.

[Anonymous]

$70K?? Jesus Christ, why? That seems just nuts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:$70K?? Jesus Christ, why? That seems just nuts.

many schools are are nearing $85k now...

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:DD is at an ivy. She got a summer internship based on a relationship with a prof whose class she took. Her internship mentor had a friend working on her campus that he called to recommend her for a research spot. Connections have helped.

My daughter goes to a little liberal arts college in Pennsylvania and almost the exact thing happened to her. I am not sure why Ivy is relevant.

My DD got an internship through a connection with a professor at a huge state football school.

[Anonymous]

If CMU is Carnegie-Mellon the CS grads from there do well in their careers.