Masks for vaccinated teens in the fall at APS?

[Anonymous]

I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

They put teachers in quotes! classic!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:While it says this may change based on new guidance, I think this is total BS. Vaccinated people do not get additional protection, for themselves or others, from wearing masks: https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated.html. CDC also says that they don't need to send vaccinated kids home if there is a case in the classroom.



APS will continue to adjust measures for School Year 2021-22 based on latest guidance and best practices. ​

Masks: Required in buildings and on buses​
Physical distancing & ​classroom capacity​: Normal classroom capacity​
Recess: No masks required outside for recess ​
Health Screening​: No temperature checks; honor system symptom reporting, Isolation rooms no longer provided in schools​
Contact Tracing: Positive case in classroom:​ Elementary: all students excluded​, Secondary: students in immediate proximity excluded​
Quarantine​: 8 days with negative test on day 5*​, Fully vaccinated individuals are exempt from quarantine, as verified by School Health​
Athletics & Activities​: Indoor masks required, contact tracing requirements for students and employees​
Visitors & volunteers​: Permitted with masks, screening and contact tracing​

*Students who do not participate in the APS testing program would continue to be excluded for 14 days from the date of last exposure. ​

Ugh, yes vaccinated people do get additional protection from wearing masks. The vaccines don't work as well against the variants and the vaccines have variable efficacy in different people depending on immune response.

I'd be ok with unmasked for those who can prove vax status as there appears to be good protection if all unmasked are vaxxed.

But definitely mask up those unvaxxed.

That is not what the CDC says:

People are considered fully vaccinated:
2 weeks after their second dose in a 2-dose series, such as the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or
2 weeks after a single-dose vaccine, such as Johnson & Johnson’s Janssen vaccine

COVID-19 vaccines are effective at preventing COVID-19 disease, especially severe illness and death.
COVID-19 vaccines reduce the risk of people spreading COVID-19.

We're still learning how effective the vaccines are against variants of the virus that causes COVID-19. Early data show the vaccines may work against some variants but could be less effective against others.
We're still learning how well the vaccines protect people with weakened immune systems, including people who take immunosuppressive medications.

If you’ve been fully vaccinated:
You can resume activities that you did prior to the pandemic.
You can resume activities without wearing a mask or staying 6 feet apart.
If you’ve been around someone who has COVID-19, you do not need to stay away from others or get tested unless you have symptoms.

Right and this means the unvaxxed should still wear masks.

[Anonymous]

UMMM.. Based on Duran wearing a mask outdoors recently while being fully vaccinated, despite guidelines that it's not necessary, my bet is all kids will be masked.

They will probably provide masks for all students with "Dr Duran" across them..

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:UMMM.. Based on Duran wearing a mask outdoors recently while being fully vaccinated, despite guidelines that it's not necessary, my bet is all kids will be masked.

They will probably provide masks for all students with "Dr Duran" across them..

Oh my God. You people are too much. Maybe he’s just not a baby about it, and is modeling for the little kids who don’t have a vaccine yet?? Did you read his email? No masks outdoors for students this fall, possibly fewer restrictions once the CDC clears it. Some of you people are just too much. If YOU don’t need to wear one, why do you give a shit if he does or not? Get a life.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

I’m a high school teacher. I think I’d be fine with masks off for high school, but my elementary-aged kids aren’t vaxxed. I think we just need to wait for the CDC. Don’t get your panties in a bunch just yet.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

I am a "teacher" who is fully vaccinated. My reality is that I will not work for an organization that allows 20+ vaccinated and unvaccinated children and adults to work in small, poorly ventilated rooms while they are all unmasked. Everyone must be masked 100% of the time in my classroom. I am not accepting the risk to my health by working with unmasked unvaccinated adults or children, and I will quit if that is the scenario presented to us in August. Deal with it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

I am a "teacher" who is fully vaccinated. My reality is that I will not work for an organization that allows 20+ vaccinated and unvaccinated children and adults to work in small, poorly ventilated rooms while they are all unmasked. Everyone must be masked 100% of the time in my classroom. I am not accepting the risk to my health by working with unmasked unvaccinated adults or children, and I will quit if that is the scenario presented to us in August. Deal with it.

so you will live in a bubble the rest of your adult life? mask at the grocery store, target, etc etc? you sound pathetic

[Anonymous]

I agree with the above poster - based on the extreme caution for the past year from Duran and the SB, and the fact he's still wearing a mask outdoors, our kids will have masks in school until COVID disappears completely.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the above poster - based on the extreme caution for the past year from Duran and the SB, and the fact he's still wearing a mask outdoors, our kids will have masks in school until COVID disappears completely.

Agree. This is a big reason I’m staying in the private we switched to. I’ll return once APS lifts its mask policies and there’s more clarity on how iPads are used in elementary classrooms. My private has said they will comply with VDOE/VDH guidance and masks and will relax requirements accordingly. I’m hoping for no masks by sept/October

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the above poster - based on the extreme caution for the past year from Duran and the SB, and the fact he's still wearing a mask outdoors, our kids will have masks in school until COVID disappears completely.

I seriously doubt that. They’re coming off, albeit not as fast as some of you would like. Probably by fall, but they’d wait the say so. But hey, you want to pay private school tuition so your kid doesn’t have to wear a mask for a month or so, have at it.

[Anonymous]

So just for fun: what if a family refuses to mask? Their entire family is vaccinated, they show proof of vaccination, there is no state mask mandate, and CDC says vaccinated people indoors unmasked are fine regardless of who they are mixing with. Can APS “force” them to be virtual? I mean, especially if there is an IEP involved, that could be setting APS up for some serious legal headaches.

My children are all under the age of vaccination, so it’s moot to me. But I am honestly really surprised at a lot of people here who are still pro-masking if they themselves are vaccinated. Real-world data of the vaccines is showing that the main ones in the US are at LEAST 90% effective in preventing you from getting symptoms at all. In years other than 2020, the rate of flu deaths after vaccination was higher, so if you were fine with going to school with a flu shot unmasked and taking a risk with your life then, you should be more than fine now (to say nothing of those who never get flu shots and went on their merry way). Food for thought.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm vaccinated. But...you "teachers" who demand masks for all children, who have all had the opportunity to get vaccinations, why do YOU care so much if all kids are masked or not. Do you believe in vaccines or don't you? If you believe they work, then YOU are safe.

Anyone who's going to try to control the entire population of children just to prevent the 0.01% of incident of infection should continue to hide in their basements vs a career in teaching kids. You are living in fear not in reality. Life has risks. Deal with it.

I am a "teacher" who is fully vaccinated. My reality is that I will not work for an organization that allows 20+ vaccinated and unvaccinated children and adults to work in small, poorly ventilated rooms while they are all unmasked. Everyone must be masked 100% of the time in my classroom. I am not accepting the risk to my health by working with unmasked unvaccinated adults or children, and I will quit if that is the scenario presented to us in August. Deal with it.

so you will live in a bubble the rest of your adult life? mask at the grocery store, target, etc etc? you sound pathetic

I'll take "pathetic" coming from you. Your opinion has no value at all to me. I think that if wearing a mask makes you so freaked out then you need to begin therapy to deal with your failure to be flexible and adjust to a new normal. I wear my mask in public and will continue to do so. It is NBD at all.

[Anonymous]

"A new normal"? What?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with the above poster - based on the extreme caution for the past year from Duran and the SB, and the fact he's still wearing a mask outdoors, our kids will have masks in school until COVID disappears completely.

I seriously doubt that. They’re coming off, albeit not as fast as some of you would like. Probably by fall, but they’d wait the say so. But hey, you want to pay private school tuition so your kid doesn’t have to wear a mask for a month or so, have at it.

P.S. Thanks for overcrowding our classrooms when the masks come off and you are ready to send your kids back. They can’t plan for them now. You seem downright selfish.