Masks for vaccinated teens in the fall at APS?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

I literally don't know any high school teacher who agrees with you. What school are you at? Because at my school I am pretty sure almost everyone wants masks.

The bodies of teens are more like the bodies of adults than kids. I don't want to be in a room with someone unvaccinated for a long period of time. I don't want to get sick even if the illness is mitigated by the vaccine. I am not putting myself at risk for health problems down the road because some kid didn't get vaccinated and isn't wearing a mask. I'll walk before that.

Are you actually a teacher? I don’t work in APS but a neighboring district and teachers are not wearing masks when we are alone together. It’s getting harder and harder to enforce them for students. I’m vaccinated and so are the other teachers I work with. Many of my students talk about how they are fully vaccinated. So many that wear masks are not doing so properly. I can’t imagine many high schools in the area are much different. Did you get vaccinated? If you did, are you really that worried about Covid? The people I work with are no longer wearing masks in stores or in our personal lives. We want to stop at work as soon as we are able.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

Amen. Our family is pro-public health, believes in science, and did everything we have been asked to do since March 2020--masks, distancing, locked down at home, no travel, etc. But we believe in the vaccines, and we are taking off our masks. Truly hope our HS students can go without this fall. No problem showing proof of vaccination- we already have to do that for MMR, TDap, etc.
Why the opposition to this? Is it a fear that the vaccines don't actually work, so everyone needs to remain masked? Honestly trying to understand, not be provocative. For everyone who said they were going to follow the science, the data for the vaccines is....really really strong. It's what we were all waiting for. Numbers are way down, and all HS aged kids are vax eligible. What is the end point here?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

Amen. Our family is pro-public health, believes in science, and did everything we have been asked to do since March 2020--masks, distancing, locked down at home, no travel, etc. But we believe in the vaccines, and we are taking off our masks. Truly hope our HS students can go without this fall. No problem showing proof of vaccination- we already have to do that for MMR, TDap, etc.
Why the opposition to this? Is it a fear that the vaccines don't actually work, so everyone needs to remain masked? Honestly trying to understand, not be provocative. For everyone who said they were going to follow the science, the data for the vaccines is....really really strong. It's what we were all waiting for. Numbers are way down, and all HS aged kids are vax eligible. What is the end point here?

Well I'm not the one who said to keep masks but here is where I am on this.

Right now I can see being ok with no masks in school for those who are vaccinated and can show proof. But if the vaccines don't work that well - say against the Delta variant - then I will still want masks. We have a few months so hopefully we will know more about the vaccines and variants by the fall.

[Anonymous]

21:56 again. I think those who want to unmask the unvaccinated are nuts. You're just asking for Covid to keep on going and going.

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Anonymous wrote:21:56 again. I think those who want to unmask the unvaccinated are nuts. You're just asking for Covid to keep on going and going.

I want to clarify my early post. I am hoping masks are not mandatory because so many of us are vaccinated. If you worked in a school you would see how ineffective they are with the way they are being worn. And yes, I am fine with showing proof of my vaccination status for myself as a teacher and for my own kids if we can go without masks.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’m all about safety, but I’d like to think that by fall we’d be able to go without them. The summer provides a reasonable amount of time for teens to get their vaccines. The vast majority of my students have already started.

+1

-1000 Every single teacher at my school who has spoken with me about it wants masks on everyone 100% of the time. We don't want to have to worry about which kid is vaccinated and which isn't when we're looking at the sea of faces and having to teach. We all want ALL kids to show proof of vaccination before returning to the classroom anyway.

I'm an APS parent and I could get behind no masks IF AND ONLY IF APS requires proof of vaccination. Anyone who is unvaxxed should definitely wear masks. Unvaxxed and no masks = recipe for covid spread and I want schools to stay open and be safe.

I am a teacher. I'm vaccinated and I've been back in school since March. If they say no masks and that unvaccinated kids are going to be in my classroom, then I'll need to quit. It is my agreement with my husband. My kids and family are more important to me than this stupid job.

I’m a teacher, too. I don’t think elementary, or even middle school, since some are 11 should be unmarked- but high school? They’re going to vaccinated, and no offense, but if you’re vaccinated, too- that’s a little paranoid.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’m all about safety, but I’d like to think that by fall we’d be able to go without them. The summer provides a reasonable amount of time for teens to get their vaccines. The vast majority of my students have already started.

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-1000 Every single teacher at my school who has spoken with me about it wants masks on everyone 100% of the time. We don't want to have to worry about which kid is vaccinated and which isn't when we're looking at the sea of faces and having to teach. We all want ALL kids to show proof of vaccination before returning to the classroom anyway.

I'm an APS parent and I could get behind no masks IF AND ONLY IF APS requires proof of vaccination. Anyone who is unvaxxed should definitely wear masks. Unvaxxed and no masks = recipe for covid spread and I want schools to stay open and be safe.

I am a teacher. I'm vaccinated and I've been back in school since March. If they say no masks and that unvaccinated kids are going to be in my classroom, then I'll need to quit. It is my agreement with my husband. My kids and family are more important to me than this stupid job.

I’m a teacher, too. I don’t think elementary, or even middle school, since some are 11 should be unmarked- but high school? They’re going to vaccinated, and no offense, but if you’re vaccinated, too- that’s a little paranoid.

Unmasked!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

I literally don't know any high school teacher who agrees with you. What school are you at? Because at my school I am pretty sure almost everyone wants masks.

The bodies of teens are more like the bodies of adults than kids. I don't want to be in a room with someone unvaccinated for a long period of time. I don't want to get sick even if the illness is mitigated by the vaccine. I am not putting myself at risk for health problems down the road because some kid didn't get vaccinated and isn't wearing a mask. I'll walk before that.

I’m an APS high school teacher, and I’m fine with them coming off. I know we had to do virtual school, hybrid, all of that, but I feel that by fall this is over, at least for the teens. If everyone has had a chance at two shots, and the teens have- we go back to life as we knew it. If someone can’t get a vaccine, they’ve offered virtual school, and if a family chooses not to- at this point, that’s their problem, isn’t it? The vaccines are really damn good. I guess you don’t know everyone.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

I literally don't know any high school teacher who agrees with you. What school are you at? Because at my school I am pretty sure almost everyone wants masks.

The bodies of teens are more like the bodies of adults than kids. I don't want to be in a room with someone unvaccinated for a long period of time. I don't want to get sick even if the illness is mitigated by the vaccine. I am not putting myself at risk for health problems down the road because some kid didn't get vaccinated and isn't wearing a mask. I'll walk before that.

I’m an APS high school teacher, and I’m fine with them coming off. I know we had to do virtual school, hybrid, all of that, but I feel that by fall this is over, at least for the teens. If everyone has had a chance at two shots, and the teens have- we go back to life as we knew it. If someone can’t get a vaccine, they’ve offered virtual school, and if a family chooses not to- at this point, that’s their problem, isn’t it? The vaccines are really damn good. I guess you don’t know everyone.

I also have to say- we’re teachers. We get sick a lot! It’s part of the job. With a vaccine, CoVID wouldn’t be that bad, if you got it at all. Before a vaccine for the teens became available, I’d have said, hell no, for their sakes, but this is different. I have a little one at home- I’m still not concerned.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

I literally don't know any high school teacher who agrees with you. What school are you at? Because at my school I am pretty sure almost everyone wants masks.

The bodies of teens are more like the bodies of adults than kids. I don't want to be in a room with someone unvaccinated for a long period of time. I don't want to get sick even if the illness is mitigated by the vaccine. I am not putting myself at risk for health problems down the road because some kid didn't get vaccinated and isn't wearing a mask. I'll walk before that.

Are you actually a teacher? I don’t work in APS but a neighboring district and teachers are not wearing masks when we are alone together. It’s getting harder and harder to enforce them for students. I’m vaccinated and so are the other teachers I work with. Many of my students talk about how they are fully vaccinated. So many that wear masks are not doing so properly. I can’t imagine many high schools in the area are much different. Did you get vaccinated? If you did, are you really that worried about Covid? The people I work with are no longer wearing masks in stores or in our personal lives. We want to stop at work as soon as we are able.

Yes, dear, I am a teacher. At a school that is frequently discussed. We are all wearing our masks when students are in the room. We are not having problems enforcing the rules with students. We teachers currently go to another room that hasn't had students for lunch and then we'll unmask but if students are or have been in the room unmasked then we will not unmask. Our health and safety is too important. We will not work unmasked with students who are unvaccinated and we will not work with unvaccinated students who are unmasked.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:21:56 again. I think those who want to unmask the unvaccinated are nuts. You're just asking for Covid to keep on going and going.

x1000

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher and hope masks are not required in the fall at the secondary level. Anyone who wanted a vaccine by then could have gotten one at my school. We can’t mask forever because some people do not want it or can’t get it for medical reasons. I understand it’s different in elementary school. If the cases or community spread rises then it can be reevaluated but cases are low right now.

Amen. Our family is pro-public health, believes in science, and did everything we have been asked to do since March 2020--masks, distancing, locked down at home, no travel, etc. But we believe in the vaccines, and we are taking off our masks. Truly hope our HS students can go without this fall. No problem showing proof of vaccination- we already have to do that for MMR, TDap, etc.
Why the opposition to this? Is it a fear that the vaccines don't actually work, so everyone needs to remain masked? Honestly trying to understand, not be provocative. For everyone who said they were going to follow the science, the data for the vaccines is....really really strong. It's what we were all waiting for. Numbers are way down, and all HS aged kids are vax eligible. What is the end point here?

The point is that teachers won't know which teachers have been vaccinated and which haven't. That's a problem I can get behind. I don't want my vaccinated kid in a room with unvaccinated and unmasked kids. If teachers make this a line in the sand (all kids must show proof of vaccination) then it is a line our family will get behind. We'll support teachers all the way in this.

I am getting the feeling from reading some of the posts that there are people masquerading as teachers (you know, the "we don't care if people wear masks" people). The teachers I know who work for APS and ACPS care deeply and are resolute in their determination that unvaccinated kids need to wear masks AND that all unmasked time, including meals, needs to be done someplace other than the classroom. Again, issues that we support as parents.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’m all about safety, but I’d like to think that by fall we’d be able to go without them. The summer provides a reasonable amount of time for teens to get their vaccines. The vast majority of my students have already started.

+1

-1000 Every single teacher at my school who has spoken with me about it wants masks on everyone 100% of the time. We don't want to have to worry about which kid is vaccinated and which isn't when we're looking at the sea of faces and having to teach. We all want ALL kids to show proof of vaccination before returning to the classroom anyway.

I'm an APS parent and I could get behind no masks IF AND ONLY IF APS requires proof of vaccination. Anyone who is unvaxxed should definitely wear masks. Unvaxxed and no masks = recipe for covid spread and I want schools to stay open and be safe.

What about masks during flu season..and are we going to ask proof for flu shots. The schools already require proof of vaccination for many diseases.

Masks for rhinoviruses or norovirus?

You're conflating viruses, PP, but good try. Covid is deadly and has killed 3.7 million (3,717,000) people in a year. The average flu, not so much, at about 290,000 a year. That's a sizable difference. I'm sure even you can see that, can't you???

Although masks during flu season makes sense. The reports from the CDC do indicate that because people were at home AND wearing masks AND social distancing this flu season, the number of reported cases was down significantly.

On second thought...maybe we should just go back to all that? I'm game if it keeps me away from rocket scientists like you, PP.

Why the attitude? People can't ask questions or make a statement without other people being a jerk these days.

I was thinking out loud in regards to mitigation of other illnesses. Flu and colds can be indistinguishable from covid at the onset of the disease.

We all know that there will be some kids sent to school sick.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’m all about safety, but I’d like to think that by fall we’d be able to go without them. The summer provides a reasonable amount of time for teens to get their vaccines. The vast majority of my students have already started.

+1

-1000 Every single teacher at my school who has spoken with me about it wants masks on everyone 100% of the time. We don't want to have to worry about which kid is vaccinated and which isn't when we're looking at the sea of faces and having to teach. We all want ALL kids to show proof of vaccination before returning to the classroom anyway.

I'm an APS parent and I could get behind no masks IF AND ONLY IF APS requires proof of vaccination. Anyone who is unvaxxed should definitely wear masks. Unvaxxed and no masks = recipe for covid spread and I want schools to stay open and be safe.

What about masks during flu season..and are we going to ask proof for flu shots. The schools already require proof of vaccination for many diseases.

Masks for rhinoviruses or norovirus?

You're conflating viruses, PP, but good try. Covid is deadly and has killed 3.7 million (3,717,000) people in a year. The average flu, not so much, at about 290,000 a year. That's a sizable difference. I'm sure even you can see that, can't you???

Although masks during flu season makes sense. The reports from the CDC do indicate that because people were at home AND wearing masks AND social distancing this flu season, the number of reported cases was down significantly.

On second thought...maybe we should just go back to all that? I'm game if it keeps me away from rocket scientists like you, PP.

Why the attitude? People can't ask questions or make a statement without other people being a jerk these days.

I was thinking out loud in regards to mitigation of other illnesses. Flu and colds can be indistinguishable from covid at the onset of the disease.

We all know that there will be some kids sent to school sick.

DP. I think you were the jerk, PP, more than the PP you're responding to. Your response had a ton of attitude and you were definitely trying to make Covid seem less dangerous than it is. Covid is MUCH more deadly than the flu and the numbers prove that. It doesn't make any sort of sense to relate it to the flu because the flu is much less deadly. Your analogy was basically equating cancer to a canker sore. Sending a kid to school sick with the flu is much, much, much less serious than sending a kid to school sick with Covid. If you can't or won't see that then you don't belong anywhere near a school. Thinking like that is why the pandemic wasn't contained quickly enough.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m a high school teacher. I’m all about safety, but I’d like to think that by fall we’d be able to go without them. The summer provides a reasonable amount of time for teens to get their vaccines. The vast majority of my students have already started.

+1

-1000 Every single teacher at my school who has spoken with me about it wants masks on everyone 100% of the time. We don't want to have to worry about which kid is vaccinated and which isn't when we're looking at the sea of faces and having to teach. We all want ALL kids to show proof of vaccination before returning to the classroom anyway.

I'm an APS parent and I could get behind no masks IF AND ONLY IF APS requires proof of vaccination. Anyone who is unvaxxed should definitely wear masks. Unvaxxed and no masks = recipe for covid spread and I want schools to stay open and be safe.

What about masks during flu season..and are we going to ask proof for flu shots. The schools already require proof of vaccination for many diseases.

Masks for rhinoviruses or norovirus?

You're conflating viruses, PP, but good try. Covid is deadly and has killed 3.7 million (3,717,000) people in a year. The average flu, not so much, at about 290,000 a year. That's a sizable difference. I'm sure even you can see that, can't you???

Although masks during flu season makes sense. The reports from the CDC do indicate that because people were at home AND wearing masks AND social distancing this flu season, the number of reported cases was down significantly.

On second thought...maybe we should just go back to all that? I'm game if it keeps me away from rocket scientists like you, PP.

Why the attitude? People can't ask questions or make a statement without other people being a jerk these days.

I was thinking out loud in regards to mitigation of other illnesses. Flu and colds can be indistinguishable from covid at the onset of the disease.

We all know that there will be some kids sent to school sick.

DP. I think you were the jerk, PP, more than the PP you're responding to. Your response had a ton of attitude and you were definitely trying to make Covid seem less dangerous than it is. Covid is MUCH more deadly than the flu and the numbers prove that. It doesn't make any sort of sense to relate it to the flu because the flu is much less deadly. Your analogy was basically equating cancer to a canker sore. Sending a kid to school sick with the flu is much, much, much less serious than sending a kid to school sick with Covid. If you can't or won't see that then you don't belong anywhere near a school. Thinking like that is why the pandemic wasn't contained quickly enough.

DP. Were you always an a-hole or is this a pandemic thing?

PP was just asking about masks to cut down on other common illnesses. No need to freak TF out on her.