Can People With Opposing Views Make It Work?

[Anonymous]

OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

You just did.

1. People gave you good advice, asked you good question, to help answer the question you pose, you ignored that. Instead, you continue to spew your crap. You're A Trump-supporting Troll. Go in Peace!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You both sound like independent, right leaning conservatives.

OP is a hateful troll.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

You must be an idiot then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

You just did.

1. People gave you good advice, asked you good question, to help answer the question you pose, you ignored that. Instead, you continue to spew your crap. You're A Trump-supporting Troll. Go in Peace!

OP here. There were multiple questions that I answered. There were many rude people on here stating their personal opinions not related to what I asked. That is who I responded to. That was not directed at those who gave actual answers to my question.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

You just did.

1. People gave you good advice, asked you good question, to help answer the question you pose, you ignored that. Instead, you continue to spew your crap. You're A Trump-supporting Troll. Go in Peace!

OP here. There were multiple questions that I answered. There were many rude people on here stating their personal opinions not related to what I asked. That is who I responded to. That was not directed at those who gave actual answers to my question.

BYE!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not going tit for tat some of you on here. You don’t like Trump and that’s fine, but I don’t care if you aren’t willing to date someone because they are pro Trump. That is not what I asked. I also didn’t ask why some people don’t like Joe Biden. I don’t like either candidate. I hate Joe Biden and think he is horribly incompetent, racist, and a criminal. I think Trump has some good policies, but there is a lot I couldn’t get passed.

My girlfriend doesn’t really bring up politics that often. We have friends who are Democrats and have talks openly without it being an issue. Her big this is that she misses when people could express their opinion without fear of being “ canceled” or be friends with people with opposing views. Some of her family members are Democrats. She definitely considers herself a conservative, but she understands everyone has their own opinion. She didn’t care that I disliked Trump. It didn’t really matter to her as long as we had some commonality with policies.

So why are you here then?

You don't actually have a proble, with any of her views. You have a problem with how you may be perceived if you choose her as a longterm partner.

+1

It sounds like you’re worried she’ll alienate your friends who don’t share your political views by being more vocal about them than you are.

Frankly, given your fundamental political views are similar, which is a based on how you view the world, I think you’re a good match. Also, keep in mind if your political views align with her, you may have a harder time being accepted by a more liberal-leaning woman. So bird in hand and all that for this lady.

So go forth and continue to date, you crazy “independent” kids!

[Anonymous]

Yes,
Just don’t debate politics and accept differences.

[Anonymous]

Don't forget that people, and their views, change over time.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A "what's right is right, what's wrong is wrong" mentality is not exactly a sign that she possesses a capacity for openness, flexibility and critical thinking. Is it possible that this is actually what you are wondering, that maybe she is not intellectually what you want? And if you are wondering now, at the likely peak of your sexual bonding, then yes, it could be an issue. You have to unpack your concerns in greater depth.

+1. This has to be it (regarding the intellectual point you made). Because if she was really a “what’s right is right, what’s wrong is wrong” type of person, she wouldn’t be a Trump supporter in the first place, let alone after January 6. Unless she has a seriously warped perspective of what constitutes right and wrong. Anyone who expresses the beliefs she supposedly expressed to OP (about wishing ideologically different viewpoints could be discussed like they used to without getting cancelled, and so forth) is just paying lip service to make herself sound more tolerant than she actually is. Because when you support a heinous and vile person who holds and expresses openly racist, sexist, classist, divisive views for the past 5+ years first as prospective and then confirmed leader of the country, you don’t give two shits about being tolerant to opposing viewpoints. No. What she actually means is she wishes she could express those same viewpoints out loud with the guarantee that there’s no threat of being ostracized. What she actually wants is for everyone else to be on the same page as her so she won’t have to face any consequences herself. Because that would be inconvenient for her. Apparently that’s what she (or OP) means by her “what’s right is right, what’s wrong is wrong” mentality...it’s not actually about right vs wrong in the moral sense - it’s about her thinking she’s right and anyone who doesn’t agree with her is wrong. So it’s not at all inaccurate to say she’s hardly (not at all) centrist in her thinking, or open-minded. It’s far more accurate to describe her as narrow-minded, inflexible, and extreme in her thinking. IMO, this is how OP should be presenting his question because as it is now, it’s wholly and completely inaccurate.

Considering this is how she presented herself to OP as being “more tolerant than most” and considering she supports Trump, she’s either an unintentional wolf in sheep’s clothing (so, manipulative), an intentional wolf-in sheep’s clothing (a liar) or someone without a single iota of self-awareness (an idiot). All are red flags in a relationship...regardless of whether politics happens to be on the menu or not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

The fact that you used her being best friends with a Democrat as an example that she’s “very open-minded” shows how little your thinking is. It’s the same as someone saying they’re not racist because they’re friendly with their black neighbor. For one, you said they HAD conversations about politics, not HAVE. Furthermore, you don’t know how tolerant or patient her best friend is in general or just toward her for the sake of friendship. You don’t mention if the friend is more moderate in his/her thinking or progressive, or even if the conversations are in-depth or they just venture into brief shallow water territory. Maybe they’re one-off comments or they have a pact to agree to disagree. Maybe they censor or water-down their true feelings or real stances during the discussions in order to feel more objective. This is not uncommon. Especially when politics have always been seen as a taboo topic. The fact that you omit this suggests you either don’t really know or you’re intentionally trying to mislead by being vague. I have friends who are politically opposite from me. Depending on the friend’s personality, I either:

-don’t engage at all for both our sakes
-try to keep it surface level and if it starts getting too deep, change the subject (this is usually where my views are very watered-down)
-discuss it openly and freely with mutual understanding that respect is a two way street (only one friend is like this; because it’s incredibly rare)


How do you know her best friend is a Democrat anyway? If you’re basing this off of her voting for Biden or something, that would be an assumption on your part and not necessarily an accurate one. Not everyone who voted for Biden is a Democrat and not every liberal is a Democrat, either.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m not a troll. I said I was an independent. I didn’t vote for Trump and don’t like the guy. To some extent, I agree with my gf that all politicians are corrupt, regardless of party.

She is very open-minded. One of her best friends is a Democrat. They had conversations about politics but they don’t let it interfere with their friendship.

I do support a large part of what she believes in. Not all of it but I know she is a good person. I never asked whether people on here thought she was a good person. Your comments are not needed. I asked if people who have different views can make a relationship work. I don’t care that you dislike a certain candidate or that you feel she is a bad person for supporting Trump. I think people who supper Biden are clueless, uneducated morons but I’m not calling people that.

You just did.

1. People gave you good advice, asked you good question, to help answer the question you pose, you ignored that. Instead, you continue to spew your crap. You're A Trump-supporting Troll. Go in Peace!

OP here. There were multiple questions that I answered. There were many rude people on here stating their personal opinions not related to what I asked. That is who I responded to. That was not directed at those who gave actual answers to my question.

Except that it was directed at everyone who supports Biden, including those who gave “actual answers” to your question. You don’t get to walk back your comment now and cherry-pick who you include and exclude based on whether you liked their answer or not. You’re just as intolerant and feeble-minded as your belligerent and morally bankrupt gf. Based on this, I think you two are a perfect match! Like Macbeth and Lady Macbeth. HA