wait list movement

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No personal knowledge, but I just saw on College Confidential that someone got off the waitlist at Wake Forest.
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Anything else?
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Oberlin expects to have activity by the middle of next week
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Why do you think the Ivys won't move? Not disagreeing necessarily, but curious. I ask because applications at all Ivys are way up (presumably more kids applied to all Ivys this year). I'd expect that alone might lead to more waitlist movement. Full disclosure, could be wishful thinking on my part as my kid waits.


Not to mention the kids who are admitted to multiple Ivies -- they can only go to one and have to reject the others. Add to that the donut hole kids who get in but have to full pay and decide to take a full scholarship elsewhere.


Because all the schools admit more than the number they hope will enroll, knowing that some will accept other places. It’s not like they have 900 spots and they admit 900 kids and if 50 go elsewhere they suddenly have 50 spots to fill with WL kids.

They will only take off the WL if they miscalculated the number of people from their admits that they think will say yes. And I think they probably did a pretty decent job, even with all that’s going on.

My DC was admitted to one Ivy and waitlisted at a few others. Just out of curiosity, I ran the numbers on the schools he was waitlisted at, taking into consideration the number of ED/REA admits, RD offers made, past RD yield (using the lowest recent rates), target class size, and deferrals from last year. Based on this data, all the waitlist schools will be oversubscribed by 100+ spots (in some cases, 200+), so highly unlikely to go to the waitlist.


Wow you are intense. Does your DC care about these stats?
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Calm down. He will be ok even if he has to wait. It will make him stronger. DS waited until 7/31 to hear that he was rejected by one of the magnet schools here in the DMV area. He was just 14 and the news came while we were away on vacation. He was upset but eventually understood that that news had nothing to do with who he is and what he will become. As he is deciding where to enroll before the 5/1, he couldn’t be happier w the choices (Hopkins, CMU and Rice) he has during such a tough admission year. Even that rejection from MIT didn’t phase him for more than the second it took to read the decision release. He was more relieved than upset. He knows he will turn out just fine and we couldn’t be prouder.

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^^ Yes I would think with Hopkins as an option your DS will be just fine ....
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Calm down. He will be ok even if he has to wait. It will make him stronger. DS waited until 7/31 to hear that he was rejected by one of the magnet schools here in the DMV area. He was just 14 and the news came while we were away on vacation. He was upset but eventually understood that that news had nothing to do with who he is and what he will become. As he is deciding where to enroll before the 5/1, he couldn’t be happier w the choices (Hopkins, CMU and Rice) he has during such a tough admission year. Even that rejection from MIT didn’t phase him for more than the second it took to read the decision release. He was more relieved than upset. He knows he will turn out just fine and we couldn’t be prouder.



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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Why do you think the Ivys won't move? Not disagreeing necessarily, but curious. I ask because applications at all Ivys are way up (presumably more kids applied to all Ivys this year). I'd expect that alone might lead to more waitlist movement. Full disclosure, could be wishful thinking on my part as my kid waits.


Not to mention the kids who are admitted to multiple Ivies -- they can only go to one and have to reject the others. Add to that the donut hole kids who get in but have to full pay and decide to take a full scholarship elsewhere.


Because all the schools admit more than the number they hope will enroll, knowing that some will accept other places. It’s not like they have 900 spots and they admit 900 kids and if 50 go elsewhere they suddenly have 50 spots to fill with WL kids.

They will only take off the WL if they miscalculated the number of people from their admits that they think will say yes. And I think they probably did a pretty decent job, even with all that’s going on.

My DC was admitted to one Ivy and waitlisted at a few others. Just out of curiosity, I ran the numbers on the schools he was waitlisted at, taking into consideration the number of ED/REA admits, RD offers made, past RD yield (using the lowest recent rates), target class size, and deferrals from last year. Based on this data, all the waitlist schools will be oversubscribed by 100+ spots (in some cases, 200+), so highly unlikely to go to the waitlist.


Wow you are intense. Does your DC care about these stats?

He doesn't care about the stats, of course, but he was curious if there was much of a chance the other schools would go to their waitlist, as I would guess most waitlisted kids wonder. He asked me if I could tell from what the schools had done in the past. I crunch numbers for my job, so this was really easy for me to do. Trust me, if you knew me IRL, you wouldn't think I was intense!
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Why do you think the Ivys won't move? Not disagreeing necessarily, but curious. I ask because applications at all Ivys are way up (presumably more kids applied to all Ivys this year). I'd expect that alone might lead to more waitlist movement. Full disclosure, could be wishful thinking on my part as my kid waits.


Not to mention the kids who are admitted to multiple Ivies -- they can only go to one and have to reject the others. Add to that the donut hole kids who get in but have to full pay and decide to take a full scholarship elsewhere.


Because all the schools admit more than the number they hope will enroll, knowing that some will accept other places. It’s not like they have 900 spots and they admit 900 kids and if 50 go elsewhere they suddenly have 50 spots to fill with WL kids.

They will only take off the WL if they miscalculated the number of people from their admits that they think will say yes. And I think they probably did a pretty decent job, even with all that’s going on.

My DC was admitted to one Ivy and waitlisted at a few others. Just out of curiosity, I ran the numbers on the schools he was waitlisted at, taking into consideration the number of ED/REA admits, RD offers made, past RD yield (using the lowest recent rates), target class size, and deferrals from last year. Based on this data, all the waitlist schools will be oversubscribed by 100+ spots (in some cases, 200+), so highly unlikely to go to the waitlist.


Wow you are intense. Does your DC care about these stats?


DP.

PP, you're rude. Your post really reflects much more negatively on you than it does her.

I think that's pretty cool that she ran the numbers and I bet her kid was interested...because he cared enough to apply to the schools. Every kid I know on a WL somewhere wants to know their chances. Having actual facts helps kids make better choices with the options they have. I would much rather my kid, if WL, had facts on which to base choices instead of just hopes and dreams.
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Anonymous wrote:U of Delaware.


Settling.


What is wrong with some of you people??

Congratulations, I have heard great things about Delaware!
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Anonymous wrote:If my kid has to wait until summer to find out, he’s going to lose his mind. He assumed he would hear shortly after May 3rd if any of the waitlists are going to move.

I can’t imagine they would move at the Ivys or next tier schools anyway.


Why do you think the Ivys won't move? Not disagreeing necessarily, but curious. I ask because applications at all Ivys are way up (presumably more kids applied to all Ivys this year). I'd expect that alone might lead to more waitlist movement. Full disclosure, could be wishful thinking on my part as my kid waits.


Not to mention the kids who are admitted to multiple Ivies -- they can only go to one and have to reject the others. Add to that the donut hole kids who get in but have to full pay and decide to take a full scholarship elsewhere.


Because all the schools admit more than the number they hope will enroll, knowing that some will accept other places. It’s not like they have 900 spots and they admit 900 kids and if 50 go elsewhere they suddenly have 50 spots to fill with WL kids.

They will only take off the WL if they miscalculated the number of people from their admits that they think will say yes. And I think they probably did a pretty decent job, even with all that’s going on.

My DC was admitted to one Ivy and waitlisted at a few others. Just out of curiosity, I ran the numbers on the schools he was waitlisted at, taking into consideration the number of ED/REA admits, RD offers made, past RD yield (using the lowest recent rates), target class size, and deferrals from last year. Based on this data, all the waitlist schools will be oversubscribed by 100+ spots (in some cases, 200+), so highly unlikely to go to the waitlist.


Wow you are intense. Does your DC care about these stats?

He doesn't care about the stats, of course, but he was curious if there was much of a chance the other schools would go to their waitlist, as I would guess most waitlisted kids wonder. He asked me if I could tell from what the schools had done in the past. I crunch numbers for my job, so this was really easy for me to do. Trust me, if you knew me IRL, you wouldn't think I was intense!


After listening to several podcasts with AO, I think your assumption that the RD yield will be the same as in recent years MAY be a mistake. With so many more applications sent per person this year, yield is hard to predict. The AOs said they are using the WL rather than risk having too many admits.
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Notre Dame waitlist is moving
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame waitlist is moving


Wow, that's interesting and surprising. Possibly indicative of the general chaos of this year for a school like ND to go to the waitlist before May 1.
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They had some very public missteps, related to COVID.
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Anonymous wrote:Notre Dame waitlist is moving


Wow, that's interesting and surprising. Possibly indicative of the general chaos of this year for a school like ND to go to the waitlist before May 1.

I'm guessing they were purposely conservative with the number they admitted RD. As several schools may have been. At least, that's what "experts" were predicting for selective schools generally.
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