wait list movement

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Anonymous wrote:Our DC’s guidance counselor told DC it could be months and it’s okay to hold out hope.

I don’t know if she is saying that to just soften the blow or if she truly believes it.

Let’s face it: After school ends counselors don’t really have to deal with the kids anymore. It’s cynical, but maybe she just doesn’t want to deal with the disappointment kids are experiencing at this moment. It’s easy to send them on their way out of HS with hope. Then if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen. They don’t have to deal with the ultimate outcome; they are already gone.

I just have a hard time believing it could take months. Maybe a few kids will get lucky down the road, but I don’t think a dam will break and suddenly kids will have a reasonable chance. Again, I could be wrong. I’m not an expert. Maybe I am too pessimistic.

This. At first I -did- think a dam would break but now, unfortunately, I don't. It makes me very sad. A neighbor's son has been shut out of all of the schools on his list and it breaks my heart. He is a great kid applying in a tough year. Even his "safeties" or whatever they are called now either flat out denied him or waitlisted him. We have been so hopeful for him but I think it just isn't going to happen. And it is sad. The 2021 kids have really had some tough breaks.

What is he going to do?

He is going to take a gap year. His choice was community college (we're in NoVa so NOVA is a great option) or work, and he chose work. My husband, his dad and a couple other parents are working together to get a series of jobs lined up (not internships but kinda like) and he will do a 3-month mini-Mission associated with our church. Then he will reapply next year.

He has great SATs, not much to really improve upon because it is 1500+, good APs, good grades, etc. But it is like every school took a look at him said "male, white, UMC = privileged" and unchecked his box. Before everyone screams I will tell you that we are a multi-racial family ourselves so I feel pretty comfortable calling out the racism that I see being used against him.

Anyway, he will survive and he will succeed. But it is a hard lesson for him to learn and us to watch.

What were some of his safety schools?

[Anonymous]

He is going to take a gap year. His choice was community college (we're in NoVa so NOVA is a great option) or work, and he chose work. My husband, his dad and a couple other parents are working together to get a series of jobs lined up (not internships but kinda like) and he will do a 3-month mini-Mission associated with our church. Then he will reapply next year.

He has great SATs, not much to really improve upon because it is 1500+, good APs, good grades, etc. But it is like every school took a look at him said "male, white, UMC = privileged" and unchecked his box. Before everyone screams I will tell you that we are a multi-racial family ourselves so I feel pretty comfortable calling out the racism that I see being used against him.

Anyway, he will survive and he will succeed. But it is a hard lesson for him to learn and us to watch.

There were a few weeks where I thought my DD was heading in the same direction, so I feel your pain. It sounds like he has a strong support system in place and i truly hope only good things come his way. But I still can’t wrap my head around the idea that a student with his stats would end up in this position. It’s an utterly inhumane process.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our DC’s guidance counselor told DC it could be months and it’s okay to hold out hope.

I don’t know if she is saying that to just soften the blow or if she truly believes it.

Let’s face it: After school ends counselors don’t really have to deal with the kids anymore. It’s cynical, but maybe she just doesn’t want to deal with the disappointment kids are experiencing at this moment. It’s easy to send them on their way out of HS with hope. Then if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen. They don’t have to deal with the ultimate outcome; they are already gone.

I just have a hard time believing it could take months. Maybe a few kids will get lucky down the road, but I don’t think a dam will break and suddenly kids will have a reasonable chance. Again, I could be wrong. I’m not an expert. Maybe I am too pessimistic.

This. At first I -did- think a dam would break but now, unfortunately, I don't. It makes me very sad. A neighbor's son has been shut out of all of the schools on his list and it breaks my heart. He is a great kid applying in a tough year. Even his "safeties" or whatever they are called now either flat out denied him or waitlisted him. We have been so hopeful for him but I think it just isn't going to happen. And it is sad. The 2021 kids have really had some tough breaks.

What is he going to do?

He is going to take a gap year. His choice was community college (we're in NoVa so NOVA is a great option) or work, and he chose work. My husband, his dad and a couple other parents are working together to get a series of jobs lined up (not internships but kinda like) and he will do a 3-month mini-Mission associated with our church. Then he will reapply next year.

He has great SATs, not much to really improve upon because it is 1500+, good APs, good grades, etc. But it is like every school took a look at him said "male, white, UMC = privileged" and unchecked his box. Before everyone screams I will tell you that we are a multi-racial family ourselves so I feel pretty comfortable calling out the racism that I see being used against him.

Anyway, he will survive and he will succeed. But it is a hard lesson for him to learn and us to watch.

Boys generally have an advantage in admissions. Either he didn't choose his safety schools wisely or he needs to work more on his application. Those are the lessons he should take from this - not "racism."

[Anonymous]

Can you share what a few of his safety schools were?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Can you share what a few of his safety schools were?

+2 Did he apply to true safeties?

[Anonymous]

I haven't heard any chatter today. No WL movement?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I haven't heard any chatter today. No WL movement?

Reddit is active: https://www.reddit.com/r/ApplyingToCollege/comments/m6nysh/2021_waitlist_megathread/

Columbia accepted some off the waitlist today. NYU, Tufts and Villanova closed their waitlists. Harvard is supposed to make an announcement later this week.

[Anonymous]

Emory accepted some. Heard BC closed their waitlist too. Going over to check reddit now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Our DC’s guidance counselor told DC it could be months and it’s okay to hold out hope.

I don’t know if she is saying that to just soften the blow or if she truly believes it.

Let’s face it: After school ends counselors don’t really have to deal with the kids anymore. It’s cynical, but maybe she just doesn’t want to deal with the disappointment kids are experiencing at this moment. It’s easy to send them on their way out of HS with hope. Then if it doesn’t happen, it doesn’t happen. They don’t have to deal with the ultimate outcome; they are already gone.

I just have a hard time believing it could take months. Maybe a few kids will get lucky down the road, but I don’t think a dam will break and suddenly kids will have a reasonable chance. Again, I could be wrong. I’m not an expert. Maybe I am too pessimistic.

This. At first I -did- think a dam would break but now, unfortunately, I don't. It makes me very sad. A neighbor's son has been shut out of all of the schools on his list and it breaks my heart. He is a great kid applying in a tough year. Even his "safeties" or whatever they are called now either flat out denied him or waitlisted him. We have been so hopeful for him but I think it just isn't going to happen. And it is sad. The 2021 kids have really had some tough breaks.

What is he going to do?

He is going to take a gap year. His choice was community college (we're in NoVa so NOVA is a great option) or work, and he chose work. My husband, his dad and a couple other parents are working together to get a series of jobs lined up (not internships but kinda like) and he will do a 3-month mini-Mission associated with our church. Then he will reapply next year.

He has great SATs, not much to really improve upon because it is 1500+, good APs, good grades, etc. But it is like every school took a look at him said "male, white, UMC = privileged" and unchecked his box. Before everyone screams I will tell you that we are a multi-racial family ourselves so I feel pretty comfortable calling out the racism that I see being used against him.

Anyway, he will survive and he will succeed. But it is a hard lesson for him to learn and us to watch.

There are some solid schools that are accepting applications. He would do much better to attend one of those and transfer. Nothing is going to change between now and next year’s applications if all he does is work. He won’t get into the level of school that didn’t let him in this year. He needs to adjust and refocus, not press pause and try again.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

He is going to take a gap year. His choice was community college (we're in NoVa so NOVA is a great option) or work, and he chose work. My husband, his dad and a couple other parents are working together to get a series of jobs lined up (not internships but kinda like) and he will do a 3-month mini-Mission associated with our church. Then he will reapply next year.

He has great SATs, not much to really improve upon because it is 1500+, good APs, good grades, etc. But it is like every school took a look at him said "male, white, UMC = privileged" and unchecked his box. Before everyone screams I will tell you that we are a multi-racial family ourselves so I feel pretty comfortable calling out the racism that I see being used against him.

Anyway, he will survive and he will succeed. But it is a hard lesson for him to learn and us to watch.

There were a few weeks where I thought my DD was heading in the same direction, so I feel your pain. It sounds like he has a strong support system in place and i truly hope only good things come his way. But I still can’t wrap my head around the idea that a student with his stats would end up in this position. It’s an utterly inhumane process.

It's very unfortunate, poor kid. But I too am wondering what his safeties were and if that's the lesson for him to learn for next year. It is completely ridiculous IMO to conclude that there is racism at play here. The percentage of white, UMC boys who want to go to college but can't get admitted somewhere has got to be statistically close to zero.

[Anonymous]

According to several CC and Reddit, Harvard has decided to stand down the WL?

[Anonymous]

Heard JMU making a lot of WL offers.

[Anonymous]

My DD will be a first year at Kenyon and they just sent an update email offering a new fall semester abroad program for first years with money to choose that option. They also are encouraging student to come in either the spring semester or next fall with a financial incentive. Tells me they are over subscribed for sure. Looks like no waitlist movement there, in fact they're trying to shed some students who've already said yes.

Worried about first year housing!

[Anonymous]

BC closed the WL

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:My DD will be a first year at Kenyon and they just sent an update email offering a new fall semester abroad program for first years with money to choose that option. They also are encouraging student to come in either the spring semester or next fall with a financial incentive. Tells me they are over subscribed for sure. Looks like no waitlist movement there, in fact they're trying to shed some students who've already said yes.

Worried about first year housing!

I've heard several schools offering this option. I don't remember this as a kid, but maybe I just wasn't paying attention. I'd love this option, but I can see why it would make some kiddos nervous. Wondering if they'd have trouble finding friends since friend groups will have been established and the like. As an adult I know it wouldn't be a big deal but putting myself in teen shoes I can see why it might create concern.