Sidwell or St. Albans for 9th?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Isn’t there more of a divide here between families of older boys and younger boys? We have a daughter at ncs and have noticed a bit of a change between those families whose boys were admitted as far back as 2012 and those closer to our daughter’s age. Very few families we know in the younger range are super vocal about trump. In fact, very few support him at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

+1.

Totally anti-trump family here. We know people and are (gasp) even friends with people who voted differently. You and your kid will have to function in the real world. In the real world, not everyone shares all your views. Learning to get along despite those differences is actually a pretty important life lesson.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Your post explains everything anybody would need to know why it matters. Fax matter and Trump supporters don’t seem to like fax. Your post is incorrect. Actually only 5.4% of DC voters voted for Trump.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Your post explains everything anybody would need to know why it matters. Fax matter and Trump supporters don’t seem to like fax. Your post is incorrect. Actually only 5.4% of DC voters voted for Trump.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Where did you get those facts? Breibert or Hannity? Biden received over 90 percent of the vote in DC and Trump less than 6%.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Where did you get those facts? Breibert or Hannity? Biden received over 90 percent of the vote in DC and Trump less than 6%.

OK, point taken, I was just throwing out what sounded like a small number. But point remains - wouldn't you assume that the majority of that 6% came from NW DC, where these schools are located and students tend to live?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Where did you get those facts? Breibert or Hannity? Biden received over 90 percent of the vote in DC and Trump less than 6%.

OK, point taken, I was just throwing out what sounded like a small number. But point remains - wouldn't you assume that the majority of that 6% came from NW DC, where these schools are located and students tend to live?

Spring Valley and surrounding neighborhoods where they were taking down the BLM signs and where one SV family had an incident with young kids peacefully putting up signs? Yes I would assume that is where most Trump supporters would live.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

Where did you get those facts? Breibert or Hannity? Biden received over 90 percent of the vote in DC and Trump less than 6%.

OK, point taken, I was just throwing out what sounded like a small number. But point remains - wouldn't you assume that the majority of that 6% came from NW DC, where these schools are located and students tend to live?

5 percent is a lot different than 20 percent

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Anonymous wrote:Sidwell or STA for overall quality of experience and quality of life? Kid is smart, funny, kind and sporty but not a D1 recruit-to-be. Wants a great high school experience.

Very different communities. The parents and kids are very different. A family that is happy at one would not necessarily be happy at the other. There are threads on here about the communities and their differences and similarities.

LOL at this post.

This is Washington and both Sidwell and STA cost upwards of 50k / year to attend. Both “school communities “ if by that you mean parent households are made up of mainly top 1 percent economic earners nationwide, likely went to the same Universities and Grad schools and have been earning north of 1-2 million a year since their late 30’s.

They may even have one kid in each school ( as a prior poster shared)

Both give large amounts of FA to a significant number of students.

So what is the difference?

Well, to the extent that a school community is also Faculty and Admin and the culture by which the school is run then : Saint Albans has a long tenured faculty and ,though the HOS is new , the Admin tone is one of a tightly run ship, highly organized, sets a high bar and does not tolerate envelop pushing from parents

Sidwell: More loosely goosey from top down and from the classroom up and lots of complaints and pressure from parents very accustomed to never being told “ no”

Perhaps PP is right and some people instantly know what type of community is “ their style”

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I cannot think of any "republican" families at Sidwell who supported Trump or Trumpism. They may be there, but you wouldn't know it. On the otherhand, there are plenty of families who are part of conservative think tanks and causes who openly deride Trump, but consider themselves "never-Trump" republicans.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I have children at both.

My daughter attends Sidwell, boys attend STA.

Admin at STA is night and day stronger than at Sidwell. Sidwell's HOS is very focused on prestige and influence, and gives preferential treatment to the well-connected. So much for Quaker values.

STA boys are encouraged to be supportive of one another, character education is integrated into the curriculum, chapel services where boys lead and speak encourage them to think about values. Sidwell does character education, too, but it seems more focused on wokeness.

Both schools have bright, intense students. Both are high pressure, but STA has more moderating elements. Faculty are very engaged and caring at STA; they are invested in the success of every student. Sidwell teachers on the whole seem more detached. At Sidwell if a child needs help, it's their job to reach out to the teachers. At STA if a child needs help, the teacher might reach out to the child.

Sidwell students are supportive but they almost seem to glorify suffering and try to outdo each other in all-nighters and other all-out efforts to achieve. STA has highly competitive kids, too, but you're not supposed to show the sweat. The boys are expected to be self-deprecating about achievements and to help others. Bragging about grades is a no-no. Everyone excels in something and they are encouraged to appreciate each others' strengths.

There are some very conservative families at STA. There are some very woke families at Sidwell. The conservative families at STA are quiet about it. The woke families at Sidwell are very loud about it.

Both communities have many normal people who are welcoming. On the whole, politics and wokeness is less in-your-face at STA, because there's an effort to build community across political beliefs, which is not as true at Sidwell. There is more diversity of thought at STA, because there are few conservative families at Sidwell. I'm not sure how comfortable they are at STA either, as the majority of the school despite rumors to the contrary skews moderate and liberal. However, there is a careful restraint at STA around politics, with the exception of a few people on both sides.

College counseling is 1000X better at STA. Read some of the past threads on the DCUM issues with college counseling at Sidwell. It would never have been allowed to deteriorate to that extent at STA, because the school is better managed and the morale among faculty/admin is higher. I've heard STA teachers are the best paid among private schools in the DC area. Most of the teachers seem genuinely happy and that's reflected in their work with the students.

Both schools are excellent schools. As a parent I'm happier with STA. IMO it's better in terms of overall student experience, parent community, and administrative stability and strength. If you send your child to Sidwell, hire a private admissions counselor as soon as your child enters 9th grade.

This is incorrect. The conservative families at STA are not quiet about it. There’s no way you’re a parent at STA currently otherwise you would be fully aware that several of the classes have many families that still support Trump. Yes we are friends with several and they openly support Trump and are openly against BLM. Yes openly. Anyone who is currently at the school can attest to this. Maybe not in the class of your boys but in other grades for sure. STA is a great school but it’s not fair to op to lie about the school. It is very conservative and has many families in the same social circles that tend to be quite exclusive to other families. The HOS and admin may be progressive but many families are not.

Is the vocal Trump supporting element present in the class of 2025?

I have heard about it in some other grades.

How is the class of 2025?

Oh for Pete's sake. Of course there are. There are Trump supporters in every school, probably every class - is that a problem for you PP? You do know that Trump got something like 20% of the vote in DC, right? Almost all of that support came from NW DC. Don't act so appalled.

+1.

Totally anti-trump family here. We know people and are (gasp) even friends with people who voted differently. You and your kid will have to function in the real world. In the real world, not everyone shares all your views. Learning to get along despite those differences is actually a pretty important life lesson.

Agree but there are differences then there are differences. BTW you can have very offensive racist and homophobic views as a conservative. I know several people who claim to be anti Trump but they are still very conservative and against homophobia, against transgender students, etc.... Not to mention their remarks about minority religions or races.

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Anonymous wrote:I cannot think of any "republican" families at Sidwell who supported Trump or Trumpism. They may be there, but you wouldn't know it. On the otherhand, there are plenty of families who are part of conservative think tanks and causes who openly deride Trump, but consider themselves "never-Trump" republicans.

They still voted for him trust me. I am friends with many and they still voted for him so in the end of the day that's all that matters because votes keep people in power.