Obviously my point is not true during the pandemic, but you are uninformed and show that you don't understand that the need for children to receive an education outweighs your demand that you never be exposed to any germs. All public health guidance before the pandemic has been specific about criteria for excluding children from school, and that includes conditions like high fever, (101 or higher), vomiting, conjunctivitis, and flu with cough and fever. A cold or lingering cough or even a low grade fever does not require exclusion from school if the child is well enough to participate in activities. |
I’m the PP. That makes sense-my kids weren't in daycare so they didn’t have the ongoing runny nose but did have distinct periods of illness. I think my point is though-what I described above is my definition of a “cold” and I would keep my kids home for it. But I think others would send their kids, and I do think that’s kinda awful. The colds I experience myself are really pretty miserable, and when my kids get them they are also miserable. I don’t think the runny nose in the cold weather that goes away when inside is even an illness or worth discussing. Do people seriously think that means a kid couldn’t go to school? I just think people have varying definitions of a cold. |
The sniffles are sometimes just from weather & dry air, other times from a cold. Also could be allergies. Lots of things. Colds are not as you describe, for me or my kids. It’s a scratchy throat, runny nose, lingering cough sometimes. No one feels like garbage- more like a nuisance. A little extra sleep and rest is all we really do. May skip optional things to rest but rarely work/school. IME it isn’t normal for a cold to make you feel like garbage but my definition may differ from others. To me feeling like garbage = flu caliber symptoms. Colds are just an annoyance. |
Even if it's free, someone outside the household shouldn't have to take care of your sick kid. The problem is the culture of working through illness and the belief that your job is so very important. Usually, it's really just not. Parents are penalized for staying home with sick kids. Some literally cannot afford to stay home because they work hourly. Basically, the answer is "capitalism". |
Try being a litigator and trying to get a case postponed for serious illness, let alone a minor one. |
So I’m the PP where colds make me and my kids feel like “garbage”. I don’t think what I’m describing is the flu though, because When my kids were in preschool we had these “colds” run through the whole family 2-3 times a year. |
Wrong. If your child is sick, they are contagious and need to stay home. I will never allow a student with a fever into my classroom, per school policy. It is incredibly selfish to suggest otherwise. Your child is coughing and has a fever? They’re going home. You can keep them home in the morning, or you can come collect them once we take one look at them and realize they are sick. The nurse will hand you a note saying they can’t come in the next day, because they won’t have been fever free for 24 hours at that point. Enjoy. |
| My asthmatic 4th grader has also never had such a healthy year. Her school definitely pushed for school attendance when mildly sick, and always said that unless a kid had a fever or was vomiting, they should be in school. |
Yes...and the thing is, it is totally normal and expected for kids to be sick often for the first few years of group care (whether that is daycare, preschool, kindergarten, whatever). Policy just hasn’t caught up to the changes in American society...dual income, lack of extended family help. My parents both worked, and my grandma or aunt would sit with us (for routine illness) if needed. But they lived in the same town, didn’t WOH, and were young/healthy compared to today’s grandparents because people tended to have kids younger. |
That may be true at the school where you work, but there's no point ranting at those of us who are given entirely different official guidelines from our kids' schools. |
I said virus cough with a fever would be grounds for sending home. But not simply a low grade fever or a cold. These are out of date, but most school exclusion policies pre-pandemic were like this: https://www.aap-oc.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/School-Exclusion-Form.pdf |
The two of you are saying the same thing...lol. If you can “tell a kid has a fever by looking at him” yeah- it’s 101 or higher. A fever is 100.4 or higher. Cough irrelevant. |
My kid absolutely gets very mild colds. She's got a clear, runny nose; sneezes a bit; has a post-nasal drip cough. No fever, no chest congestion, no sore throat, normal appetite, normal energy levels. If I give her a decongestant, she's fine. In a few days, she's back to normal. She gets these at least a couple of times per winter. If I kept her home every time, she'd miss well over a week of school just for that. |
Exactly. Our school will automatically send home for fever 100.4+ or vomiting (you get a call saying to come pick child up immediately). Everything else-within reason-they will let kid rest a few minutes to evaluate & then call and ask parent what you want to do. I always pick my kids up in that scenario but not everyone does. A cough or “seeming sick” won’t get a kid sent home automatically unless there is a fever over 100.4 |
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