Teachers: do you trust the families in your school to take COVID seriously?

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Anonymous wrote:Are teachers really more COVID-cautious than non-teachers? I have not seen this to be the case.

I am in the Midwest, in a state where most schools are at least open for 2 days per week of in-person learning. In my kids' private school, virtually everyone complies with COVID precautions in public places, such as schools and grocery stores. But most people are not doing strict social distancing in their private life. The teachers are no different. A minority are strictly SD-ing, a majority are not.

And, this is exactly why what you are doing is very dangerous for everyone.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares???? They are vaccinated! Good grief. Everyone has abandoned their common sense.

They're vaccinated and wearing masks with limited numbers of kids in the classroom. Millions of Americans have been working jobs that require interactions with the public including private school teachers and daycare teachers. Get over it.

That’s the thing...All teachers will NOT be vaccinated. I’ve pre-registered at places that allow that, wake up around 5 a.m. each morning to click and refresh all the open tabs on my laptop to all the possible locations where I am eligible to receive a vaccine, and I still can’t get a damn appointment. It’s a game of luck.

If I was fully vaccinated, I would feel better about being in a classroom with 12 nine year olds. Like previous posters, I have also heard firsthand about all of the travel to different states and countries, sports tournaments, birthday parties, sleepovers, etc. from my students. My husband has multiple underlying health conditions and my family has made very different choices to keep ourselves safe. I can’t say the same for the families of my students.

Have you heard that their parents, friends, or siblings are sick, hospitalized, dead, or dying? If not, and if what you have heard is true, then that should reassure you somewhat.

Actually, yes I have. One of my students had Covid. I know of two families where both parents had Covid. One student’s grandmother died from Covid, another student’s uncle died of Covid, and another student’s (local) aunt and grandmother are currently hospitalized with Covid.

Where do you teach?

Silver Spring/Wheaton area, not too far from Holy Cross Hospital

And are the families with all of these COVID deaths the same ones attending soccer tournaments, birthday parties, travel, etc.?

I assume there is a larger lower income population with multigenerational households?

Yes, there are lower income families. However, the community is quite a mix. There are shared housing situations and there are families who travel internationally for vacation trips.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares???? They are vaccinated! Good grief. Everyone has abandoned their common sense.

They're vaccinated and wearing masks with limited numbers of kids in the classroom. Millions of Americans have been working jobs that require interactions with the public including private school teachers and daycare teachers. Get over it.

That’s the thing...All teachers will NOT be vaccinated. I’ve pre-registered at places that allow that, wake up around 5 a.m. each morning to click and refresh all the open tabs on my laptop to all the possible locations where I am eligible to receive a vaccine, and I still can’t get a damn appointment. It’s a game of luck.

If I was fully vaccinated, I would feel better about being in a classroom with 12 nine year olds. Like previous posters, I have also heard firsthand about all of the travel to different states and countries, sports tournaments, birthday parties, sleepovers, etc. from my students. My husband has multiple underlying health conditions and my family has made very different choices to keep ourselves safe. I can’t say the same for the families of my students.

Have you heard that their parents, friends, or siblings are sick, hospitalized, dead, or dying? If not, and if what you have heard is true, then that should reassure you somewhat.

Actually, yes I have. One of my students had Covid. I know of two families where both parents had Covid. One student’s grandmother died from Covid, another student’s uncle died of Covid, and another student’s (local) aunt and grandmother are currently hospitalized with Covid.

Where do you teach?

Silver Spring/Wheaton area, not too far from Holy Cross Hospital

And are the families with all of these COVID deaths the same ones attending soccer tournaments, birthday parties, travel, etc.?

I assume there is a larger lower income population with multigenerational households?

Yes, there are lower income families. However, the community is quite a mix. There are shared housing situations and there are families who travel internationally for vacation trips.

Sounds like an interesting mix and a good place to teach . . . if this ever ends.

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares???? They are vaccinated! Good grief. Everyone has abandoned their common sense.

They're vaccinated and wearing masks with limited numbers of kids in the classroom. Millions of Americans have been working jobs that require interactions with the public including private school teachers and daycare teachers. Get over it.

That’s the thing...All teachers will NOT be vaccinated. I’ve pre-registered at places that allow that, wake up around 5 a.m. each morning to click and refresh all the open tabs on my laptop to all the possible locations where I am eligible to receive a vaccine, and I still can’t get a damn appointment. It’s a game of luck.

If I was fully vaccinated, I would feel better about being in a classroom with 12 nine year olds. Like previous posters, I have also heard firsthand about all of the travel to different states and countries, sports tournaments, birthday parties, sleepovers, etc. from my students. My husband has multiple underlying health conditions and my family has made very different choices to keep ourselves safe. I can’t say the same for the families of my students.

Have you heard that their parents, friends, or siblings are sick, hospitalized, dead, or dying? If not, and if what you have heard is true, then that should reassure you somewhat.

Actually, yes I have. One of my students had Covid. I know of two families where both parents had Covid. One student’s grandmother died from Covid, another student’s uncle died of Covid, and another student’s (local) aunt and grandmother are currently hospitalized with Covid.

Where do you teach?

Silver Spring/Wheaton area, not too far from Holy Cross Hospital

And are the families with all of these COVID deaths the same ones attending soccer tournaments, birthday parties, travel, etc.?

I assume there is a larger lower income population with multigenerational households?

Yes, there are lower income families. However, the community is quite a mix. There are shared housing situations and there are families who travel internationally for vacation trips.

Sounds like an interesting mix and a good place to teach . . . if this ever ends.

It is a great place to teach!

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Anonymous wrote:Who cares???? They are vaccinated! Good grief. Everyone has abandoned their common sense.

53% of teachers are vaccinated. 43% of support staff/bus driver's.

Sorry, what? Where are 53% of teachers vaccinated?

Not in my system. It’s only 28% for professional staff. Less than 10% for support staff and many of them do not have home internet to check for openings.

Everyone has a phone. Plenty of people don't have a computer at home but everyone has a phone.

Not everyone has a smart phone.

Yes, really, everyone has some sort of smartphone.

No, really, they don't. Your privileged bubble is not the world or even the country.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

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No. I don’t trust them at all. I’ll be fully vaccinated before returning to teach in high school but I’m worried it will spread through the students. There isn’t a way to rebuild trust. So many parents let their kids come sick or even force them. I’ve been teaching for over 20 years and have heard every reason from not wanting to get behind or trying to make sure they don’t miss that important practice or game after school. My kids also play sports but I can’t imagine sending them to school with a fever and on meds so they can play in a game that evening.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

I'm sorry you don't understand that managing a classroom supply budget is nothing like managing an actual budget.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

is your problem that the person said "lol"? because this is all pretty coherent to me. it sounds like teachers don't know what they're doing and are writing cover letters to nonprofits that demonstrate ignorance of the job to be performed.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

is your problem that the person said "lol"? because this is all pretty coherent to me. it sounds like teachers don't know what they're doing and are writing cover letters to nonprofits that demonstrate ignorance of the job to be performed.

NP here but I’ve known many teachers who’ve transition to other successful careers- working in R and D at Booz Allen, working in Ed consulting with non profits, one works at McKinsey, etc. And none of them work at museums.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

is your problem that the person said "lol"? because this is all pretty coherent to me. it sounds like teachers don't know what they're doing and are writing cover letters to nonprofits that demonstrate ignorance of the job to be performed.

NP here but I’ve known many teachers who’ve transition to other successful careers- working in R and D at Booz Allen, working in Ed consulting with non profits, one works at McKinsey, etc. And none of them work at museums.

In my experience, those were always people who went back to school for a different degree, changed careers and worked themselves up from the bottom, or had alternative experience to rely on. Very, very few who had only done K-12 education were qualified for anything else, especially something like research at Booz Allen.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

is your problem that the person said "lol"? because this is all pretty coherent to me. it sounds like teachers don't know what they're doing and are writing cover letters to nonprofits that demonstrate ignorance of the job to be performed.

NP here but I’ve known many teachers who’ve transition to other successful careers- working in R and D at Booz Allen, working in Ed consulting with non profits, one works at McKinsey, etc. And none of them work at museums.

In my experience, those were always people who went back to school for a different degree, changed careers and worked themselves up from the bottom, or had alternative experience to rely on. Very, very few who had only done K-12 education were qualified for anything else, especially something like research at Booz Allen.

PP but all of the people I listed went straight from the classroom to those jobs. I think people forget that some teachers are experts in things like physics and chemistry. So it’s really not difficult for them to transition.

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Anonymous wrote:There are jobs to transfer to for teachers. I was a teacher and then wrote educational material for students (at NASA). There is a lot of that going on at museums, nonprofits etc. That’s just one thing. Teachers aren’t worthless and most probably have no desire to be in “white collar” office job.

Oh yeah lol I have worked at a bunch of nonprofits and we always get ridiculous applications from teachers. It's clear they have no idea what it's like working for clients and managing projects. Not one of them has ever had to deal with an actual budget but they always write things trying to suggest that buying classroom supplies is related. Like, that's front desk work. Great, you can answer phones.

And good luck getting any of the two dozen museum jobs.

Your response is incoherent, but sure, teachers aren’t qualified to do anything “lol”. Apparently no one in the non profit world can even string together a sentence, so teachers should be okay out there.

is your problem that the person said "lol"? because this is all pretty coherent to me. it sounds like teachers don't know what they're doing and are writing cover letters to nonprofits that demonstrate ignorance of the job to be performed.

NP here but I’ve known many teachers who’ve transition to other successful careers- working in R and D at Booz Allen, working in Ed consulting with non profits, one works at McKinsey, etc. And none of them work at museums.

In my experience, those were always people who went back to school for a different degree, changed careers and worked themselves up from the bottom, or had alternative experience to rely on. Very, very few who had only done K-12 education were qualified for anything else, especially something like research at Booz Allen.

PP but all of the people I listed went straight from the classroom to those jobs. I think people forget that some teachers are experts in things like physics and chemistry. So it’s really not difficult for them to transition.

Do you know what their background was? What I described wouldn't preclude that.