Sleep Training 8 Week Old..

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Anonymous wrote:Op my child was a lot like yours
I am the one who did the contented little baby book.

I followed the schedule there and put my child down for naps at the suggested times. It he cried through his nap so be it
I took the opportunity to take a shower and get dressed, etc. That didn't last long -- he learned to appreciate nap time quickly. He ate well and slept great on the schedule.

He is a happy, healthy strapping young man now.

OP here. How old was your baby when you did this? The other methods I'm looking at are Ferber and BabyWise.

Are you joking with Babywise? Babywise was "originally published in 1990 as ‘Preparation for Parenting: Bringing God’s Order to Your Baby’s Day and Restful Sleep to Your Baby’s Night’, (Christian edition written by Gary and Anne Marie Ezzo), the book was rebranded in 1993. It became known as ‘On Becoming Babywise’ and Robert Bucknam MD replaced Anne Marie Ezzo as co-author." There is nothing in the original print nor the re-branding print that has biological and/or anthropological basis.

"It takes several months for a newborn baby to begin establishing a pattern in their sleep cycles. Even then, regular disruption is inevitable, as rapid neurological and physical development in the first years interrupts newly-established patterns. In fact, one study investigating infant sleep duration found that 27% of babies had not regularly slept from 10pm to 6am by the age of 1 year.

Yet, Babywise claims: “… healthy, full-term babies are born with the capacity to achieve 7-8 hours of continuous night time sleep between seven and ten weeks of age, and 10-12 hours of sleep by twelve weeks of age.”

This is like reading the blanket training book for discipline strategies.

OP here. I have a friend who used it for her two kids and her sister used it for 3 kids. They never had problems and are great sleepers. I brought up the same controversy and she said it was surrounded around false ideas. It does not instruct you to starve your kid - it tells you to focus on full feeds. She fed her babies full feeds on-demand. I will do the same if I follow that method.

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

OP here. Can you give me an example of a schedule? He is isn't on one yet. He eats every 3 hours and goes down for naps every 60 minutes but that's it. He is gaining weight.

It sounds like he is on a schedule! Omg OP you are expecting too much of your fresh babe. Please get some mom friends, some perspective, and some grace for yourself and most importantly your baby.

OP here. All my mom friends are telling me to sleep train. They did and they said it was the best decision. My best friend sleep trained at this age.

He is on a routine but times are different everyday.

You need to go on Amazon and order the Contented Little Baby Book. The schedules change week by week based on age. About 80 percent of babies will fall into this schedule pretty naturally once you introduce it. It has been 19 years, but the naps were not every 60 minutes even at a young age as I recall.

OP here. I will look into it.

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

You probably sleep trained for nights. Naps are a whole different story and a different part of the brain. You CANNOT nap train an eight month old. It cannot be done. It is abusive (and this is from someone who sleep trains full CIO at four months on the dot).

OP you sons wake times are too short. A two month old can stay up for more than 60 minutes. He's probably waking up because he's not tired enough.

PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god try some of these other methods first. Hire a doula. Drive around. Hire a sleep consultant. Do not resort to Ferber.

OP here. I go by his cues and he gets tired around 60 mins. Most feast here said babies his age can stay awake for 1hr 15 minutes but he will get overtired. I tried doing that and he was very upset and inconsolable. I think he gets tired because he isn’t getting quality naps. Sometimes he is fussy and crying 30 or 45 minutes after a nap. He will be yawning and then start fussing. I have tried different awake times and it doesn’t matter. He will get more upset though if I go over 60 minutes because he is yawning around that time.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:We did sleep training at 8weeks with the Pediatrician's blessings. DC was gaining weight steadily, and passed that x lbs mark (can't remember what it was). We also put DC on a nap/feeding schedule, and it was like night/day.

I would highly advise a schedule and keeping to it as much as possible.

You probably sleep trained for nights. Naps are a whole different story and a different part of the brain. You CANNOT nap train an eight month old. It cannot be done. It is abusive (and this is from someone who sleep trains full CIO at four months on the dot).

OP you sons wake times are too short. A two month old can stay up for more than 60 minutes. He's probably waking up because he's not tired enough.

PLEASE PLEASE for the love of god try some of these other methods first. Hire a doula. Drive around. Hire a sleep consultant. Do not resort to Ferber.

OP here. He hates the car and I can’t spend all on walks when it’s cold outside and I have other things to do.

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Mom of two here. OP, you have unrealistic expectations of your newborn. It’s developmentally inappropriate to expect your newborn baby to nap train and be on a great nap schedule. It’s also developmentally inappropriate to sleep train an 8 week old. With my first I was up at night every 2 hours at this age with reflux and colic. The fact that you are dismissing that you get night sleep is ridiculous - nighttime sleep is huge at this age. Your baby is doing great but I’m troubled that you seem annoyed by your baby’s lack of adherence to your lifestyle/need for a routine and your dogged insistence that you only want people to support your poor choice. A desire to allow an 8 week old to scream with justification from an “expert” will alleviate you of what - guilt? Responsibility? Your lack of empathy is really concerning. All of us are telling you that it’s highly cruel to do what you are suggesting. Have you been evaluated for a postpartum mood disorder? Postpartum rage is a thing. And I get it. It’s really hard. But you have to have realistic expectations. And everything you’re saying about your baby is really normal and common for this age. You are not uniquely afflicted and there’s nothing wrong with your baby. And the other poster is right - sleep deprivation comes with the job description of being a parent. There are certainly things you can do, but this is just the first step in a long journey that will also involve nighttime illnesses, nightmares, behavior challenges, and more. Parenting is 24 hours a day—and unless you have help, very few breaks.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of two here. OP, you have unrealistic expectations of your newborn. It’s developmentally inappropriate to expect your newborn baby to nap train and be on a great nap schedule. It’s also developmentally inappropriate to sleep train an 8 week old. With my first I was up at night every 2 hours at this age with reflux and colic. The fact that you are dismissing that you get night sleep is ridiculous - nighttime sleep is huge at this age. Your baby is doing great but I’m troubled that you seem annoyed by your baby’s lack of adherence to your lifestyle/need for a routine and your dogged insistence that you only want people to support your poor choice. A desire to allow an 8 week old to scream with justification from an “expert” will alleviate you of what - guilt? Responsibility? Your lack of empathy is really concerning. All of us are telling you that it’s highly cruel to do what you are suggesting. Have you been evaluated for a postpartum mood disorder? Postpartum rage is a thing. And I get it. It’s really hard. But you have to have realistic expectations. And everything you’re saying about your baby is really normal and common for this age. You are not uniquely afflicted and there’s nothing wrong with your baby. And the other poster is right - sleep deprivation comes with the job description of being a parent. There are certainly things you can do, but this is just the first step in a long journey that will also involve nighttime illnesses, nightmares, behavior challenges, and more. Parenting is 24 hours a day—and unless you have help, very few breaks.

OP here. I’m aware of this. I have an older son who is 3. He was an easy baby and never went through this. I held him for naps sometimes but he happily slept in his crib. We had also had a sitter. I really can’t spend all day with my youngest because my 3 year old needs my attention too.

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What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

Can you hire more help? To either get stuff done or help with the baby? I felt the same way when I first had two- everything was piling up. I tried to outsource as much as possible and also just let things go. Get sunbasket meals delivered. Hire cleaners to do laundry. As much as possible.

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Lol, sorry honey this is called being a mother. Newborns are hard and it gets even harder so buckle up. Your 8 week old is a newborn. You don’t get a parenting pass because you have a 3 year old. Agree wholeheartedly with the above poster. If you are truly struggling with mental health issues I encourage you to seek help from a professional. Otherwise, turn the TV on for your older one like the rest of us did. Your baby needs you.

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Anonymous wrote:Mom of two here. OP, you have unrealistic expectations of your newborn. It’s developmentally inappropriate to expect your newborn baby to nap train and be on a great nap schedule. It’s also developmentally inappropriate to sleep train an 8 week old. With my first I was up at night every 2 hours at this age with reflux and colic. The fact that you are dismissing that you get night sleep is ridiculous - nighttime sleep is huge at this age. Your baby is doing great but I’m troubled that you seem annoyed by your baby’s lack of adherence to your lifestyle/need for a routine and your dogged insistence that you only want people to support your poor choice. A desire to allow an 8 week old to scream with justification from an “expert” will alleviate you of what - guilt? Responsibility? Your lack of empathy is really concerning. All of us are telling you that it’s highly cruel to do what you are suggesting. Have you been evaluated for a postpartum mood disorder? Postpartum rage is a thing. And I get it. It’s really hard. But you have to have realistic expectations. And everything you’re saying about your baby is really normal and common for this age. You are not uniquely afflicted and there’s nothing wrong with your baby. And the other poster is right - sleep deprivation comes with the job description of being a parent. There are certainly things you can do, but this is just the first step in a long journey that will also involve nighttime illnesses, nightmares, behavior challenges, and more. Parenting is 24 hours a day—and unless you have help, very few breaks.

OP here. I’m aware of this. I have an older son who is 3. He was an easy baby and never went through this. I held him for naps sometimes but he happily slept in his crib. We had also had a sitter. I really can’t spend all day with my youngest because my 3 year old needs my attention too.

Ugh OP. I second everything the first PP said. My oldest was relatively easy, too (though he was t on a nap schedule at 8 weeks!!!), and my second one was a horrible sleeper as a newborn. Day sleep especially. She only slept being held by me or strapped to my chest in an Ergo or moby wrap. But that enabled me to focus on my then two year old. Have you tried that? I get that it is frustrating, but what you are considering is cruel. Plain and simple. You’ve clearly made up your mind so I’m not sure why you’re asking. I am so sad for your kids.

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Your pediatrician explicitly told you NOT to sleep train. Shame on you.

From experience, I started sleep training at 4 months. By 6 months my baby had not gained enough weight and was now under the 5th percentile for weight. I felt terribly guilty and immediately stopped.

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Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

Re getting things done I suggest throwing a little money at the problem. Your husband is a doctor. Take a little of that doctor money and make your life easier. Not joking. Re pain. Please try a carrier. Babies love to be all snuggly. It also sounds like maybe you need a break from the baby. A part time baby nurse can help you spend some time with the toddler and recharge. I mean this in earnest and without snark: throw some money at the problem.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What exactly is the issue? You're not getting anything done? You're in physical discomfort from holding him?

OP here. Both. I can't get anything done and I'm always in pain at the end of the day.

Re getting things done I suggest throwing a little money at the problem. Your husband is a doctor. Take a little of that doctor money and make your life easier. Not joking. Re pain. Please try a carrier. Babies love to be all snuggly. It also sounds like maybe you need a break from the baby. A part time baby nurse can help you spend some time with the toddler and recharge. I mean this in earnest and without snark: throw some money at the problem.

Not all babies likes being in a carrier and all “ snuggly”. Why would OP hire help during a pandemic when she has a newborn? That’s a bad idea.