Sleep Training 8 Week Old..

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. We will start sleep training next week. I’m going to do Ferber big follow some methods of other books.


Honestly I am crying thinking about this and I am a firm believer in sleep training.



DP But OMG, get over yourself.


Sorry but if the thought of a helpless EIGHT WEEK OLD crying alone for hours because his mother can't be bothered to hold him for a nap doesn't make you upset you are heartless.


+1 Who actually does this to an 8 week old? She even admits her pediatrician doesn’t recommend (a doctor that specializes in babies not her Md husband and friend). So selfish. If OP can’t handle a fussy infant the teen years are going to be killer.


Yep this is terrible. Anyone who can leave an 8 week old alone to cry is a straight psychopath. I remember when mine was that age it physically hurt to listen to him cry.


I did it. I am hardly a psychopath.

And guess what? My kids slept great after they were sleep trained.

Meanwhile, my friends kids were lousy sleepers who needed hours of rocking to get to bed each night.


Sorry. You are a psychopath. No pediatrician recommends sleep training an 8 week old for good reason. I am not anti sleep training, but at 8 weeks it is cruel. I am sure your kids will be in therapy later. FWIW I rocked and nursed my kids to sleep for 6-12 months depending on the kid. I also maintained consistent routines--adhered to nap/ bed schedules and kept the environment sleep friendly. Guess what! They are all great sleepers. Who knew that a gentle and kind method of sleep training could work.

Yep. I didn’t sleep train and my kid is a great sleeper. Shame on you. There is something very wrong with you.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. We will start sleep training next week. I’m going to do Ferber big follow some methods of other books.


Honestly I am crying thinking about this and I am a firm believer in sleep training.



DP But OMG, get over yourself.


Sorry but if the thought of a helpless EIGHT WEEK OLD crying alone for hours because his mother can't be bothered to hold him for a nap doesn't make you upset you are heartless.


+1 Who actually does this to an 8 week old? She even admits her pediatrician doesn’t recommend (a doctor that specializes in babies not her Md husband and friend). So selfish. If OP can’t handle a fussy infant the teen years are going to be killer.


Yep this is terrible. Anyone who can leave an 8 week old alone to cry is a straight psychopath. I remember when mine was that age it physically hurt to listen to him cry.


I did it. I am hardly a psychopath.

And guess what? My kids slept great after they were sleep trained.

Meanwhile, my friends kids were lousy sleepers who needed hours of rocking to get to bed each night.


Sorry. You are a psychopath. No pediatrician recommends sleep training an 8 week old for good reason. I am not anti sleep training, but at 8 weeks it is cruel. I am sure your kids will be in therapy later. FWIW I rocked and nursed my kids to sleep for 6-12 months depending on the kid. I also maintained consistent routines--adhered to nap/ bed schedules and kept the environment sleep friendly. Guess what! They are all great sleepers. Who knew that a gentle and kind method of sleep training could work.

Yep. I didn’t sleep train and my kid is a great sleeper. Shame on you. There is something very wrong with you.

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I seriously hope these are trolls and not real people.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m helping my child by getting quality sleep. Everyday for every nap he fights his sleep. It takes up to an hour to get him down, and even then he will wake up multiple times, even while being held, and then cry because he’s still tired. He is usually in a fitful sleep when being held. He isn’t getting enough sleep. I’m doing what’s best for him and me. It’s what’s best for our family.

You’re doing what’s best for you. Don’t kid yourself.
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Try Precious Little Sleep (book and/or blog and/or Facebook group.) There are lots of things you can do at this age that aren't cry-it-out.
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Anonymous wrote:I really dont understand why you won’t at least try a SNOO. Then you wouldn’t need to rock your baby to sleep. It doesn’t really make sense.

I don’t think you’re a monster for wanting to sleep train but I do think you have very unrealistic expectations for a baby.


Yeah, you seem stubbornly fixated on sleep training when there are so many potentially better options. The snoo is great and babies just take a certain amount of time to care for no matter what.


A snow doesn't work for every baby. Most older babies that are difficult don't like it. OP will then have to transition him out of it the next couple of months and sleep train. I don't see a point in getting one.


OP says that money isn’t an issue and she’s in pain from rocking her baby to sleep. The SNOO does that for you. It’s at least worth renting and trying it out, I’d think.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. I’m helping my child by getting quality sleep. Everyday for every nap he fights his sleep. It takes up to an hour to get him down, and even then he will wake up multiple times, even while being held, and then cry because he’s still tired. He is usually in a fitful sleep when being held. He isn’t getting enough sleep. I’m doing what’s best for him and me. It’s what’s best for our family.

You’re doing what’s best for you. Don’t kid yourself.


Yup. She’s just a selfish person.
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OP here. We are not sleep training. I talked to my MIL this morning and she was very against it. I trust her opinion and have decided to wait until 4 months. She is going to come and stay with us for a couple of weeks to give me a break while I look for a doula or PT nanny.

I really didn't mean to come across as cold. I love my son very much, but I'm just exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally. My first was such a good sleeper that I wasn't prepared for this. It has been really hard. Almost all day is spent getting him down for naps with lots of bouncing and crying. Even holding him and moving will make him wake up and he will start to cry and I have to repeat the process of putting him back to sleep again. I'm in so much pain at the end of the day. I'm hoping I can get some help and it will be more manageable. I will try to work on some tips like consistent bedtime, extending naps ( though he is tired at 60 minutes), and letting him fuss instead of running to him when he starts crying.
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People put their difficult babies in the car to sleep and I’m not sure I see the difference.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. We are not sleep training. I talked to my MIL this morning and she was very against it. I trust her opinion and have decided to wait until 4 months. She is going to come and stay with us for a couple of weeks to give me a break while I look for a doula or PT nanny.

I really didn't mean to come across as cold. I love my son very much, but I'm just exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally. My first was such a good sleeper that I wasn't prepared for this. It has been really hard. Almost all day is spent getting him down for naps with lots of bouncing and crying. Even holding him and moving will make him wake up and he will start to cry and I have to repeat the process of putting him back to sleep again. I'm in so much pain at the end of the day. I'm hoping I can get some help and it will be more manageable. I will try to work on some tips like consistent bedtime, extending naps ( though he is tired at 60 minutes), and letting him fuss instead of running to him when he starts crying.


OP I’m blessed because mine is a good sleeper but I would say we let her fuss a lot. My husband more than me, and as a result he often gets a “double” long nap. Fussing and crying a bit is different from wailing. I have to look at the clock to know it’s only been 90 seconds even though it feels like an eternity to me and I should give her more time. If I manage to wait 10 minutes, she often (not always) gets there.
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OP thanks for the update and I’m so glad you’re not going to sleep train right now and that your MIL can help.

Most newborns are fairly fussy and not great sleepers- this is why everyone talks about the newborn stage being so difficult.

I recommend Taking Cara Babies. I don’t follow it to a tee but I am using it for my second child and it is helpful.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. We are not sleep training. I talked to my MIL this morning and she was very against it. I trust her opinion and have decided to wait until 4 months. She is going to come and stay with us for a couple of weeks to give me a break while I look for a doula or PT nanny.

I really didn't mean to come across as cold. I love my son very much, but I'm just exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally. My first was such a good sleeper that I wasn't prepared for this. It has been really hard. Almost all day is spent getting him down for naps with lots of bouncing and crying. Even holding him and moving will make him wake up and he will start to cry and I have to repeat the process of putting him back to sleep again. I'm in so much pain at the end of the day. I'm hoping I can get some help and it will be more manageable. I will try to work on some tips like consistent bedtime, extending naps ( though he is tired at 60 minutes), and letting him fuss instead of running to him when he starts crying.


That is wonderful, OP! I'm really happy for you that you have such a great relationship with your MIL and she is able and willing to help out.
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Anonymous wrote:OP here. We are not sleep training. I talked to my MIL this morning and she was very against it. I trust her opinion and have decided to wait until 4 months. She is going to come and stay with us for a couple of weeks to give me a break while I look for a doula or PT nanny.

I really didn't mean to come across as cold. I love my son very much, but I'm just exhausted mentally, physically, and emotionally. My first was such a good sleeper that I wasn't prepared for this. It has been really hard. Almost all day is spent getting him down for naps with lots of bouncing and crying. Even holding him and moving will make him wake up and he will start to cry and I have to repeat the process of putting him back to sleep again. I'm in so much pain at the end of the day. I'm hoping I can get some help and it will be more manageable. I will try to work on some tips like consistent bedtime, extending naps ( though he is tired at 60 minutes), and letting him fuss instead of running to him when he starts crying.


So glad to hear you will have help OP and that you are open minded. I think once you have help things will improve.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. We will start sleep training next week. I’m going to do Ferber big follow some methods of other books.


Honestly I am crying thinking about this and I am a firm believer in sleep training.



DP But OMG, get over yourself.


Sorry but if the thought of a helpless EIGHT WEEK OLD crying alone for hours because his mother can't be bothered to hold him for a nap doesn't make you upset you are heartless.


+1 Who actually does this to an 8 week old? She even admits her pediatrician doesn’t recommend (a doctor that specializes in babies not her Md husband and friend). So selfish. If OP can’t handle a fussy infant the teen years are going to be killer.


Yep this is terrible. Anyone who can leave an 8 week old alone to cry is a straight psychopath. I remember when mine was that age it physically hurt to listen to him cry.


I did it. I am hardly a psychopath.

And guess what? My kids slept great after they were sleep trained.

Meanwhile, my friends kids were lousy sleepers who needed hours of rocking to get to bed each night.


Sorry. You are a psychopath. No pediatrician recommends sleep training an 8 week old for good reason. I am not anti sleep training, but at 8 weeks it is cruel. I am sure your kids will be in therapy later. FWIW I rocked and nursed my kids to sleep for 6-12 months depending on the kid. I also maintained consistent routines--adhered to nap/ bed schedules and kept the environment sleep friendly. Guess what! They are all great sleepers. Who knew that a gentle and kind method of sleep training could work.


Not everyone wants to be tied to a chair rocking and nursing a child for 6-12 months. They are old enough to self-soothe at that point. That usually leads to kids being spoiled. There is nothing wrong with sleep training. You probably were as a baby.


I wasn’t tied to a chair rocking and nursing my kids. They actually fell asleep pretty quickly and are all older now and amazing sleepers. I am interested to hear the scientific evidence that nurturing your baby spoils them. My kids are all super giving and helpful because of our general value system and our focus on service.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. We will start sleep training next week. I’m going to do Ferber big follow some methods of other books.


Honestly I am crying thinking about this and I am a firm believer in sleep training.



DP But OMG, get over yourself.


Sorry but if the thought of a helpless EIGHT WEEK OLD crying alone for hours because his mother can't be bothered to hold him for a nap doesn't make you upset you are heartless.


+1 Who actually does this to an 8 week old? She even admits her pediatrician doesn’t recommend (a doctor that specializes in babies not her Md husband and friend). So selfish. If OP can’t handle a fussy infant the teen years are going to be killer.


Yep this is terrible. Anyone who can leave an 8 week old alone to cry is a straight psychopath. I remember when mine was that age it physically hurt to listen to him cry.


I did it. I am hardly a psychopath.

And guess what? My kids slept great after they were sleep trained.

Meanwhile, my friends kids were lousy sleepers who needed hours of rocking to get to bed each night.


Sorry. You are a psychopath. No pediatrician recommends sleep training an 8 week old for good reason. I am not anti sleep training, but at 8 weeks it is cruel. I am sure your kids will be in therapy later. FWIW I rocked and nursed my kids to sleep for 6-12 months depending on the kid. I also maintained consistent routines--adhered to nap/ bed schedules and kept the environment sleep friendly. Guess what! They are all great sleepers. Who knew that a gentle and kind method of sleep training could work.


Not everyone wants to be tied to a chair rocking and nursing a child for 6-12 months. They are old enough to self-soothe at that point. That usually leads to kids being spoiled. There is nothing wrong with sleep training. You probably were as a baby.


I wasn’t tied to a chair rocking and nursing my kids. They actually fell asleep pretty quickly and are all older now and amazing sleepers. I am interested to hear the scientific evidence that nurturing your baby spoils them. My kids are all super giving and helpful because of our general value system and our focus on service.


Good for you with your superior parenting and your superior kids. Not enough eye rolls for this.
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Anonymous wrote:Thanks everyone. We will start sleep training next week. I’m going to do Ferber big follow some methods of other books.


Honestly I am crying thinking about this and I am a firm believer in sleep training.



DP But OMG, get over yourself.


Sorry but if the thought of a helpless EIGHT WEEK OLD crying alone for hours because his mother can't be bothered to hold him for a nap doesn't make you upset you are heartless.


+1 Who actually does this to an 8 week old? She even admits her pediatrician doesn’t recommend (a doctor that specializes in babies not her Md husband and friend). So selfish. If OP can’t handle a fussy infant the teen years are going to be killer.


Yep this is terrible. Anyone who can leave an 8 week old alone to cry is a straight psychopath. I remember when mine was that age it physically hurt to listen to him cry.


I did it. I am hardly a psychopath.

And guess what? My kids slept great after they were sleep trained.

Meanwhile, my friends kids were lousy sleepers who needed hours of rocking to get to bed each night.


Sorry. You are a psychopath. No pediatrician recommends sleep training an 8 week old for good reason. I am not anti sleep training, but at 8 weeks it is cruel. I am sure your kids will be in therapy later. FWIW I rocked and nursed my kids to sleep for 6-12 months depending on the kid. I also maintained consistent routines--adhered to nap/ bed schedules and kept the environment sleep friendly. Guess what! They are all great sleepers. Who knew that a gentle and kind method of sleep training could work.


Not everyone wants to be tied to a chair rocking and nursing a child for 6-12 months. They are old enough to self-soothe at that point. That usually leads to kids being spoiled. There is nothing wrong with sleep training. You probably were as a baby.


I wasn’t tied to a chair rocking and nursing my kids. They actually fell asleep pretty quickly and are all older now and amazing sleepers. I am interested to hear the scientific evidence that nurturing your baby spoils them. My kids are all super giving and helpful because of our general value system and our focus on service.


Good for you with your superior parenting and your superior kids. Not enough eye rolls for this.


Wow. You are pretty insecure. Pointing out that general parenting and family values lead to kids that aren’t spoiled (not rocking a baby to sleep) seems kind of common sense. Not superior parenting. Just what most people do.
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