How often and bad is this obsession at clubs and teams?

[Anonymous]

Are these clubs or coaches or talent scouts, because the ones I’ve seen are definitely not both. If they were, this discussion wouldnt be happening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:God forbid teams utilize their most talented players. You people are idiots

If you can't understand that people are talking about going WAYYYY beyond utilizing your best players, then you are the idiot.

I was a PP and wasn't talking about just utilizing best players. However, if we are talking about coaches telling a kid to do nothing other than feed the ball to the most talented player, that is a problem too.

The coach is supposed to help each kids develop, not build a team around one or two kids who are able to dominate when they are 9 or 10.

Beyond that, the social media aspect can be so hurtful. I try not to get caught up in social media, so I encourage my kids to overlook it. But at one club, we finally had to pull the plug. To give one of many examples, my son was literally cut out of a picture so that it could be cropped to focus on the "stars." He looked at it, noticed his cleat in the picture, and went to his room.

This last part makes me sad.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:God forbid teams utilize their most talented players. You people are idiots

There are more gracious ways of doing it, don't you think?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They keep score for a reason. Standings too. Tournaments cups are given to the winners not the most technical. I hear everyones complaints but even if you work to develop virtually all these kids to their maximum. They will almost all fall in the below average for a soccer player in the grand scheme of things. Everyone loves the game but the facts are in the USA soccer is thought of as the sport your less athletic kid has a chance at. Not tall enough or athletic enough for basketball. Not big enough or strong enough for football . Soccer is that great equalizer just teach them to be technical learn possession play, etc. The fact remains the 1% of soccer players that make it to the pros are exceptional athletes first. Which make becoming a technical player that much easier. Just enjoy you kids being competitive and learning life lessons in the process. Let your kids enjoy the process no matter how far it takes them. It may end at U10 or U19 but its their journey and they are the talent you are just the supporting cast know your role and stay in your lane.

WOW !!!!! This is the most accurate post ever on DCUM. Please use this as a reference for all soccer parents across the country.

The trolls are fishing hard tonight

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:They keep score for a reason. Standings too. Tournaments cups are given to the winners not the most technical. I hear everyones complaints but even if you work to develop virtually all these kids to their maximum. They will almost all fall in the below average for a soccer player in the grand scheme of things. Everyone loves the game but the facts are in the USA soccer is thought of as the sport your less athletic kid has a chance at. Not tall enough or athletic enough for basketball. Not big enough or strong enough for football . Soccer is that great equalizer just teach them to be technical learn possession play, etc. The fact remains the 1% of soccer players that make it to the pros are exceptional athletes first. Which make becoming a technical player that much easier. Just enjoy you kids being competitive and learning life lessons in the process. Let your kids enjoy the process no matter how far it takes them. It may end at U10 or U19 but its their journey and they are the talent you are just the supporting cast know your role and stay in your lane.

You missed the point (assuming you are being serious of course ). Developing the whole team results in more wins in any timeframe except the very short run. Feeding the star at the expense of the other players' development might win you a few games early on - but by mid season the team where all players are developing and the star (still obviously a high impact player) is playing as part of a team, will beat the team wich only knows how to feed the star.

[Anonymous]

And this does not stop at kids level. I played soccer to quite a high level as a holding midfielder and my job was to break up the opposition attack, win the ball, and get it to one of the more creative players on our team.

This is my son. He likes doing what he does and doesn't desire to be something else. I'm cool with it if he is.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They keep score for a reason. Standings too. Tournaments cups are given to the winners not the most technical. I hear everyones complaints but even if you work to develop virtually all these kids to their maximum. They will almost all fall in the below average for a soccer player in the grand scheme of things. Everyone loves the game but the facts are in the USA soccer is thought of as the sport your less athletic kid has a chance at. Not tall enough or athletic enough for basketball. Not big enough or strong enough for football . Soccer is that great equalizer just teach them to be technical learn possession play, etc. The fact remains the 1% of soccer players that make it to the pros are exceptional athletes first. Which make becoming a technical player that much easier. Just enjoy you kids being competitive and learning life lessons in the process. Let your kids enjoy the process no matter how far it takes them. It may end at U10 or U19 but its their journey and they are the talent you are just the supporting cast know your role and stay in your lane.

And yet American sports are not particularly popular around the world. Perhaps we just are not good enough at the worlds most popular game and so we choose to good at what we can be good at.

I mean you can't train to be 6'9" forward or a 6'5" 350 pound lineman. One is born with the traits to become that. Soccer requires training as well as god given athleticism. American sports require the athletes to first and foremost be physical freaks to even compete. That is far more limiting to most kids than the opportunity to play soccer.

If you're a big, fat strong kid, well you can play football and you can decide to play football as late as your Junior year and still be good at football. That is not an option for soccer. One cannot decide in their Junior year to jsut try it out and succeed.

Bingo

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They keep score for a reason. Standings too. Tournaments cups are given to the winners not the most technical. I hear everyones complaints but even if you work to develop virtually all these kids to their maximum. They will almost all fall in the below average for a soccer player in the grand scheme of things. Everyone loves the game but the facts are in the USA soccer is thought of as the sport your less athletic kid has a chance at. Not tall enough or athletic enough for basketball. Not big enough or strong enough for football . Soccer is that great equalizer just teach them to be technical learn possession play, etc. The fact remains the 1% of soccer players that make it to the pros are exceptional athletes first. Which make becoming a technical player that much easier. Just enjoy you kids being competitive and learning life lessons in the process. Let your kids enjoy the process no matter how far it takes them. It may end at U10 or U19 but its their journey and they are the talent you are just the supporting cast know your role and stay in your lane.

And yet American sports are not particularly popular around the world. Perhaps we just are not good enough at the worlds most popular game and so we choose to good at what we can be good at.

I mean you can't train to be 6'9" forward or a 6'5" 350 pound lineman. One is born with the traits to become that. Soccer requires training as well as god given athleticism. American sports require the athletes to first and foremost be physical freaks to even compete. That is far more limiting to most kids than the opportunity to play soccer.

If you're a big, fat strong kid, well you can play football and you can decide to play football as late as your Junior year and still be good at football. That is not an option for soccer. One cannot decide in their Junior year to jsut try it out and succeed.

Bingo

You think you can take up bingo as late as your junior year and succeed? Bingo is a highly tecnical sport - I don't think most kids could pull this off.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They keep score for a reason. Standings too. Tournaments cups are given to the winners not the most technical. I hear everyones complaints but even if you work to develop virtually all these kids to their maximum. They will almost all fall in the below average for a soccer player in the grand scheme of things. Everyone loves the game but the facts are in the USA soccer is thought of as the sport your less athletic kid has a chance at. Not tall enough or athletic enough for basketball. Not big enough or strong enough for football . Soccer is that great equalizer just teach them to be technical learn possession play, etc. The fact remains the 1% of soccer players that make it to the pros are exceptional athletes first. Which make becoming a technical player that much easier. Just enjoy you kids being competitive and learning life lessons in the process. Let your kids enjoy the process no matter how far it takes them. It may end at U10 or U19 but its their journey and they are the talent you are just the supporting cast know your role and stay in your lane.

And yet American sports are not particularly popular around the world. Perhaps we just are not good enough at the worlds most popular game and so we choose to good at what we can be good at.

I mean you can't train to be 6'9" forward or a 6'5" 350 pound lineman. One is born with the traits to become that. Soccer requires training as well as god given athleticism. American sports require the athletes to first and foremost be physical freaks to even compete. That is far more limiting to most kids than the opportunity to play soccer.

If you're a big, fat strong kid, well you can play football and you can decide to play football as late as your Junior year and still be good at football. That is not an option for soccer. One cannot decide in their Junior year to jsut try it out and succeed.

Bingo

You think you can take up bingo as late as your junior year and succeed? Bingo is a highly tecnical sport - I don't think most kids could pull this off.

Aren’t you a cheeky little devil?

[Anonymous]

Bottom line is the best players in every sport are superior athletes 1st.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bottom line is the best players in every sport are superior athletes 1st.

As the world turns...

the bottom line really is the best clubs in every sport are superior recruiters 1st?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

And this does not stop at kids level. I played soccer to quite a high level as a holding midfielder and my job was to break up the opposition attack, win the ball, and get it to one of the more creative players on our team.

This is my son. He likes doing what he does and doesn't desire to be something else. I'm cool with it if he is.

I think as the players get older, they start to levitate towards positions that best fits their personalities, skill sets, athleticism and endurance. At the younger ages, they all want to be center forwards to score goals.

[Anonymous]

I think as the players get older, they start to levitate

I thought science had now shown that levitation was impossible?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I think as the players get older, they start to levitate

I thought science had now shown that levitation was impossible?

"Why do we levitate, when we mean gravitate?
We need to meditate on what makes kids great.
And we all know the ones who accelerate by the time they're eight."
- Jesse Jackson, ghost writing for Dr. Seuss

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

I think as the players get older, they start to levitate

I thought science had now shown that levitation was impossible?

"Why do we levitate, when we mean gravitate?
We need to meditate on what makes kids great.
And we all know the ones who accelerate by the time they're eight."
- Jesse Jackson, ghost writing for Dr. Seuss

I agree that I shouldn’t have used the word levitate. But using ‘gravitate’ is not accurate either as there are no gravitational force to pull a player to a position.

Either way, my point is not about my poor word choice but that certain kids will start to prefer to play at positions that they might not have wanted to when they were younger due to several things.