Why are most teachers too scared to return to in person teaching, but most parents want schools open

[Anonymous]

Of course I *WANT* schools to open. But I also realize it's not safe, so my wants don't come into account here.

Everyone wants schools to reopen in person. The issues is the safety.

It's not hard, even though lots of people make it seem hard.

Wear a mask, tell your friends to wear masks, and we may get there eventually. Maybe.

[Anonymous]

Free education is an essential community need Period.
Distance learning just doesn't cut it.
I am willing to give it a semester but if parents feel their children are not learning, not benefiting, then I think teachers and schools should be forced in person learning.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Poll:
Do you feel providing free education and educating the children of this country is an essential need?
If yes, then why aren't teachers essential workers going back to their jobs (keep in mind many essential workers are working outside of the home, Drs nurses, day care, utility etc)?
If no, then I think it is time we rethink and redefine our entire education system in this country and allocate those resources elsewhere, like to families who can use it to hire tutors, private schools, parent stay home to homeschool, pay for a pod, etc.

Your premise is flawed because it hinges on the supposition that teachers can only deliver this essential service by going back to school.

As a private school teacher, I did a great job with my DL, and you would have been thrilled to have your kid in my class. For my AP classes, I had whole-group lessons on Zoom three times a week, but also required small group sessions, and I did a lot of one-on-one work with individuals to help brush up on skills. I spent MORE time planning and conducting DL lessons. I am 100% confident that I can deliver quality instruction to my students via DL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Also, DL is not child care! Many teachers want to teach from home so they can watch their own kids. School administrators must remind teachers that they will have to make child care arrangements while they're on the clock. Child care is the responsibility of teachers and they should have thought of that before having kids.

Lol exactly who the hell do these teachers think they are?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Poll:
Do you feel providing free education and educating the children of this country is an essential need?
If yes, then why aren't teachers essential workers going back to their jobs (keep in mind many essential workers are working outside of the home, Drs nurses, day care, utility etc)?
If no, then I think it is time we rethink and redefine our entire education system in this country and allocate those resources elsewhere, like to families who can use it to hire tutors, private schools, parent stay home to homeschool, pay for a pod, etc.

Your premise is flawed because it hinges on the supposition that teachers can only deliver this essential service by going back to school.

As a private school teacher, I did a great job with my DL, and you would have been thrilled to have your kid in my class. For my AP classes, I had whole-group lessons on Zoom three times a week, but also required small group sessions, and I did a lot of one-on-one work with individuals to help brush up on skills. I spent MORE time planning and conducting DL lessons. I am 100% confident that I can deliver quality instruction to my students via DL.

Great, Like PP said.
Lets try a semester. If parents/kids aren't satisfied then in person it is.

[Anonymous]

Like someone else said. Say goodbye to snow days!!!
Now there is no reason they can DL on those days.
Oh, and don't forget to find childcare for your kid as well since he/she will be DL and you can't be the support since you will be 'working' leading your own DL sessions.

Welcome to the real world.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I think anyone who paints this as “parents want free childcare” or “teachers are lazy” are pretty simple minded. Yes, it’s more likely that families with ES children will have childcare issues, especially in this area where there are so many dual-income households. But at our daycare, fewer than half of families have returned. And I know plenty of families with MS/HS students who are really fretting, either because they’re at a critical transition year or for whom distance learning just wasn’t working in the spring. They’re grumbling about having to find tutors or asking their kids to drop to easier classes if they can’t afford the tutors or feel they can personally help.

While there are many teachers concerned about safety, many I know want to return, but are frustrated with the process and lack of transparency. Also varies by how DL went in the spring. The one I know that is most vocal about wanting to go back is an ES reading specialist- these are kids who need extra help already for one reason or another, and she felt that DL really failed for those kids in particular.

Thank you for this sane post!! I have little patience for the lazy teachers and parents just want childcare posts and feel they prevent good discussions.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Grocery store workers do not grow food. They sell it to you.

Its still then refusing to do a key part of THEIR job (selling you food) and making it YOUR problem to figure out.

No, stupid. It isn't the same at all. There is no way for a grocery store worker to do his/her job remotely. There IS a way for a teacher to work remotely, and doing so saves lives and protects the health of others. The real issue is that you aren't satisfied with DL and have decided that even though you can get the "product" of the teachers' work either way, the advantage of non-DL outweighs risk to teachers' lives.

Actually many of us didn’t get much of a “product” at all. It’s been clear for a while that schools would not be returning in person, but there doesn’t seem to have been much of an effort over the last few months to improve DL. It’s really mind boggling to me. I don’t really fault the teachers, the districts should have been taking the lead. But I question teachers who can’t seem to recognize how much DL fell short- maybe they are the super-teachers who did it well and whose students thrived. But for many students (maybe even the majority) it was a list spring, now it will be a lost year for those who don’t have the $$ to hire private teachers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Grocery store workers do not grow food. They sell it to you.

Its still then refusing to do a key part of THEIR job (selling you food) and making it YOUR problem to figure out.

No, stupid. It isn't the same at all. There is no way for a grocery store worker to do his/her job remotely. There IS a way for a teacher to work remotely, and doing so saves lives and protects the health of others. The real issue is that you aren't satisfied with DL and have decided that even though you can get the "product" of the teachers' work either way, the advantage of non-DL outweighs risk to teachers' lives.

Then why ever go back to buildings if DL is just super awesome and great. Save a TON of money on buildings, supplies etc.

I see that coming.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like someone else said. Say goodbye to snow days!!!
Now there is no reason they can DL on those days.
Oh, and don't forget to find childcare for your kid as well since he/she will be DL and you can't be the support since you will be 'working' leading your own DL sessions.

Welcome to the real world.

You sound so perversely happy.
You get off on others suffering don’t you?
Any sociopaths in your family by any chance?

[Anonymous]

It really depends on where you live.

In our area, the % of positive cases has been under 1% since June. So I feel good about sending our kids back with precautions.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Like someone else said. Say goodbye to snow days!!!
Now there is no reason they can DL on those days.
Oh, and don't forget to find childcare for your kid as well since he/she will be DL and you can't be the support since you will be 'working' leading your own DL sessions.

Welcome to the real world.

Everyone will be teleworking or distance-learning during snow days now- which really is fine because the snow days around here are often for an inch of snow.

[Anonymous]

I get it. I’m not a teacher but I was allowed to telework for the first time in my adult life. And it’s been life changing. I don’t think I can go back to being in the office for 40 hours a week. And I feel that way about so many things. Telemedicine is glorious for small things like getting a prescription.

But I have a kindergartener and distance learning won’t work for her. I’m so sick of people saying I want free childcare. No. I have a nanny for my younger kid so that’s not an issue. Kindergarten is about learning social skills more than tests and facts like the later grades.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Or like a parent saying, “You’re worries about being exposed to a highly contagious and potentially deadly virus? Tough, watch my kids all day I’m stressed.”

More like cops saying they're too afraid to patrol a neighborhood with a little higher crime and then also screeching at concerned residents: "You evil selfish locals all want us to DIE!!!!!"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Of course I *WANT* schools to open. But I also realize it's not safe, so my wants don't come into account here.

Everyone wants schools to reopen in person. The issues is the safety.

It's not hard, even though lots of people make it seem hard.

Wear a mask, tell your friends to wear masks, and we may get there eventually. Maybe.

We don’t have all the answers yet about what is needed for schools to operate, but I think we will find out this fall. Much of the south seems to be opening in a non-safe way. Whereas NY districts appear to be opening in a much safer way. If they succeed, it bodes well for this area. If they don’t, then we will be in this place until a vaccine is available and widely distributed.