Why are most teachers too scared to return to in person teaching, but most parents want schools open

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We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

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We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

This x 1000. This isn't mass hysteria. This is science.

Too many people are saying that reasonable precautions mean that the person is a mass hysteric. What they don't understand is that the mass hysteria people are the Luddites clinging to the past trying to get back to the old normal and refusing to adapt. If they would just get on board and accept change then we would be much further along than we are. But their firm resistance to the science of a health pandemic is holding us all back and costing people their lives.

[Anonymous]

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We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

This x 1000. This isn't mass hysteria. This is science.

Too many people are saying that reasonable precautions mean that the person is a mass hysteric. What they don't understand is that the mass hysteria people are the Luddites clinging to the past trying to get back to the old normal and refusing to adapt. If they would just get on board and accept change then we would be much further along than we are. But their firm resistance to the science of a health pandemic is holding us all back and costing people their lives.

Oh my god. This level of idiocy is very hard to manage. You act as if this is the first virus ever to circulate through the human population. It is not. Please, please read some scientific data (and history!).

[Anonymous]

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We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

This x 1000. This isn't mass hysteria. This is science.

Too many people are saying that reasonable precautions mean that the person is a mass hysteric. What they don't understand is that the mass hysteria people are the Luddites clinging to the past trying to get back to the old normal and refusing to adapt. If they would just get on board and accept change then we would be much further along than we are. But their firm resistance to the science of a health pandemic is holding us all back and costing people their lives.

The “old normal?” Lol. There is no “new normal.” It’s a pandemic, just like many, many others in the past. It will end. Calm down.

[Anonymous]

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We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

This x 1000. This isn't mass hysteria. This is science.

Too many people are saying that reasonable precautions mean that the person is a mass hysteric. What they don't understand is that the mass hysteria people are the Luddites clinging to the past trying to get back to the old normal and refusing to adapt. If they would just get on board and accept change then we would be much further along than we are. But their firm resistance to the science of a health pandemic is holding us all back and costing people their lives.

Oh my god. This level of idiocy is very hard to manage. You act as if this is the first virus ever to circulate through the human population. It is not. Please, please read some scientific data (and history!).

Case in point.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
We have had our fair of bad teachers but blaming the teachers is wrong. Many of us parents don't want our kids going back yet either. Hand sanitizer is not a substitute for hand washing and this is mostly air born so hand washing helps but is not a solution. At our last school, we often went without heat or ac so not sure where all this good ventilation is when we had to dress kids in layers and send extra clothing. We are trying to get donations for our PTSA but a low income school and we are really struggling.

Just wanted to mention covid-19 is mostly droplet. Surgical mask and face shields should be enough in community settings. Sanitizers are extremely effective. I don’t understand why we cannot hear about how to troubleshoot our problems. Please make a list of reasonable things that needs to be fixed before opening in person and ask mcps to fulfill these criteria. No, N95s and complete overhaul of ventilation are not reasonable. Hand washing stations in each room, sanitizers, wipes are reasonable. Strict mask rules are reasonable. No sick kid to school is reasonable.

Legitimate high risk teachers should be given exemption from in person classes. They can lead DL. High risk kids, or anyone who do not want in person can be in those DL classes. Anyone violating strict sick child policy or mask policy should be DL.

Teachers, please list valid needs that need to be fulfilled prior to opening. You are the ones facing the challenges, i am sure you would have better idea on how to solve this problem. Not having school for years is bad for students, teachers, parents.....society.

MCPS May have to make some tough choices. Cutting budget on transportation, or PE? They are not useful for DL anyways. Transportation for only if truly needed. Ask state and county leaders for more money. Ask parents for more money and volunteers for a lot of these things.

So many reasonable posters here, I applaud you. Mass hysteria has caused an inability to think clearly and problem solve.

You are not correct. The most recent scientific information we have tells us that aerosolized virus is the most common (and problematic) method of transmission. This would dictate that N95 masks and ventilation upgrades are 100% necessary. Otherwise, schools are fundamentally unsafe. If we decide that's too expensive and too much work, then schools and other large indoor gatherings should be indefinitely closed.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0360132320302183

When you insist on N95 masks, then yeah, you’re pretty much advocating to stay shutdown indefinitely. Have you been to a hospital or doctors office lately? What were they all wearing? Most likely surgical masks.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Do teachers really think the rest of us working in the world are washing our hands every 2 minutes?
I work with people with disabilities, intellectual and physical barriers. Do i wash my hands? Yes. When i can. Otherwise i use sanitizer and don't touch my face/eyes/nose/mouth.
I wear a mask and face shield. The people I work with do the same (those with disabilities). Really only 1 person has a medical need adn cannoot wear one but can wear a face shield and she does.

This is not rocket science. Does my job look the same as it did in March? Hell no. But you know what, in many ways it is better. Smaller group sizes, greater focus on sanitization and respect for personal space. PErfect? Nope. But if the people I work with can figure this out with a great deal of success I think our children can as well. You aren't even letting them try.
My kids don't touch people, touch their faces, blow snot everywhere, kiss, climb on people etc. THey just don't. They wear masks and shields consistently and have sanitzer to use when they touch something public.
NOt a big deal at all.

Just stop whining already about how NOTHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIING can be done. Our children will kill you and can't follow basic rules.

No, we will not let them "try" when it puts our health and our families' health at risk.

If your kids really are as you describe, they are very, very rare unicorns. If we could have a school full of your kids, we could open, but we don't, so we can't.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

Lol. But it’s okay for the YMCA to provide daycare for the children you won’t teach IN THOSE SAME “poorly ventilated” schools, as long as the precious teachers assume zero risk ever?! I guess it’s okay to put the lower paid, mostly POC daycare workers in that situation, as long as it isn’t you, right? And it’s clear you are disgruntled and hate both your job and the children you are supposed to teach, since you assume they’re incapable of following basic instructions. You’re a disgrace to the profession, please leave.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

Lol. But it’s okay for the YMCA to provide daycare for the children you won’t teach IN THOSE SAME “poorly ventilated” schools, as long as the precious teachers assume zero risk ever?! I guess it’s okay to put the lower paid, mostly POC daycare workers in that situation, as long as it isn’t you, right? And it’s clear you are disgruntled and hate both your job and the children you are supposed to teach, since you assume they’re incapable of following basic instructions. You’re a disgrace to the profession, please leave.

So your laughing out loud as you skewer the poster and tell them to leave their profession because they are attempting to argue a scientific point.

[Anonymous]

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

Lol. But it’s okay for the YMCA to provide daycare for the children you won’t teach IN THOSE SAME “poorly ventilated” schools, as long as the precious teachers assume zero risk ever?! I guess it’s okay to put the lower paid, mostly POC daycare workers in that situation, as long as it isn’t you, right? And it’s clear you are disgruntled and hate both your job and the children you are supposed to teach, since you assume they’re incapable of following basic instructions. You’re a disgrace to the profession, please leave.

So your laughing out loud as you skewer the poster and tell them to leave their profession because they are attempting to argue a scientific point.

Profession? I thought they were a teacher?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

Lol. But it’s okay for the YMCA to provide daycare for the children you won’t teach IN THOSE SAME “poorly ventilated” schools, as long as the precious teachers assume zero risk ever?! I guess it’s okay to put the lower paid, mostly POC daycare workers in that situation, as long as it isn’t you, right? And it’s clear you are disgruntled and hate both your job and the children you are supposed to teach, since you assume they’re incapable of following basic instructions. You’re a disgrace to the profession, please leave.

So your laughing out loud as you skewer the poster and tell them to leave their profession because they are attempting to argue a scientific point.

DP, but they’re not arguing a scientific point, at least, not credibly. They’re ignoring the intersection of science and politics, and claiming that keeping schools closed indefinitely is solely about the former when it’s really more about the latter (at least for elementary kids; high school is a different story).

[Anonymous]

I am grateful that schools are virtual. I don't want my kids or the people around them to be at risk, and I don't want them in the regimented masked zones that Covid schools have become.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Your kids. Your responsibility. Don’t put them off on teachers just cause you tired of dealing with em.

This is so laughable. It is like a grocery store worker saying, you're hungry? Your problem. Go grow some food.
Or a utility company saying "You want electricity?" "Go find some"

Thought this analogy was right on! So witty and on point!

It's not "right on,' "on point" and sure as hell isn't "witty."

It's been explained 500,000,000 times on these boards in the past months why a teacher enclosed in a poorly-ventilated enclosed classroom for 6-7 hours a day (even worse for MS and HS teachers who are in that enclosed, poorly-ventilated space for 6-7 hours a day for hundreds of different kids) with kids who will NOT follow rules, wil NOT distance, will NOT keep their masks on (and administrations will not allow them to be removed) is NOT THE SAME as the utility person working ALONE in their truck or with one other compliant adult or a grocery store worker where masks can be enforced and required, with plexiglass shields, who have contact with each person for 5 minutes at a time.

Say it with me, children. Prolonged. Indoor. Contact. Is. The. Highest. Risk. For. Transmission.

You people are such sheep. "Yeah!" "Right on!" Puh-lease.

Lol. But it’s okay for the YMCA to provide daycare for the children you won’t teach IN THOSE SAME “poorly ventilated” schools, as long as the precious teachers assume zero risk ever?! I guess it’s okay to put the lower paid, mostly POC daycare workers in that situation, as long as it isn’t you, right? And it’s clear you are disgruntled and hate both your job and the children you are supposed to teach, since you assume they’re incapable of following basic instructions. You’re a disgrace to the profession, please leave.

So your laughing out loud as you skewer the poster and tell them to leave their profession because they are attempting to argue a scientific point.

DP, but they’re not arguing a scientific point, at least, not credibly. They’re ignoring the intersection of science and politics, and claiming that keeping schools closed indefinitely is solely about the former when it’s really more about the latter (at least for elementary kids; high school is a different story).

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And for that “mistake” they hate their job, all children, and are a disgrace and should leave. OK then.