How can someone be born and raised in the DC area yet still be racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.


Tolerance works both ways, PP. Chill on name calling the poster that references their belief in God.


DP. Yes, the important thing here isn’t that PP is a religious nut job, it’s that PP uses religion as an excuse for her/his racism.
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Anonymous wrote:When you think of a group as more criminally driven, you start to see them on a whole as less than. And when you do meet a "good one" that you perhaps work with or go to school with, you start to separate them from their "group." As others have very well stated, Black people have only had about 50 years of desegregation and the ability to become upwardly mobile. Think about that...Only in 1968 were Blacks allowed to buy homes in many areas of this country. And only since 1965 could Blacks vote. And those are just the formal laws. That didn't necessarily change what people did in practice. Its not like Blacks flooded great neighborhoods and started setting themselves up on day 1 after these laws were passed. People still discriminated and came up with other ways to keep them out of the race that White people created and continued to run. And its still happening. Which means that as an entire race, most Blacks are nowhere near having the familial and generational resources and wealth that we tout as the "American Dream."

Imagine having only menial job prospects, poor schools because schools due to low property tax funding, limited housing and abilities to "move on up" and voila - you have hopelessness and a cycle that's very difficult to break. That American Dream isn't for you, because you're told that you will never have it. Look at any depressed culture and you'll see the same thing. But, it's also much easier to see when you have a media that really only points out the criminal behavior of Blacks. When I was growing up, the local news covered this shootings, drug busts, the crime that involved Blacks - blasting their faces all over the TV. That creates over time subliminal messaging that you associate Blacks with crime. And when you live in segregated areas (that price the majority of Blacks or other minorities out of their populations), your only connection to Blacks becomes the criminals you see splattered across the news. And, voila - you've created the fear that engenders the racism that feeds the power structure. This area is not immune to that, despite the diversity.

Last point here. Young, white men have continued to shoot up schools, almost exclusively. White men are the majority of serial killers. Why do we not have rampant fear of White males and discussions about "why they just can't seem to stop killing?" It's because we know that you cannot paint an entire race of people or demographic with the brush of the few who do bad things. We should ask ourselves why we as a country (as a world) do not ascribe the same to Blacks? All races have bad actors, but its a "privilege" to not bear the burden of a few bad actors. That's the system that needs to be dismantled.


That is a ridiculous argument. Please compare the rate of white-committed school shootings and serial killings to the rate of black-committed violence. There isn't even a comparison. I understand and support the first part of your rationalization here, but that last part just waters down your point. It's illogical.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.


Tolerance works both ways, PP. Chill on name calling the poster that references their belief in God.


DP. Yes, the important thing here isn’t that PP is a religious nut job, it’s that PP uses religion as an excuse for her/his racism.


^^That's YOUR interpretation. Seek to understand, PP, not judge.
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Anonymous wrote:When you think of a group as more criminally driven, you start to see them on a whole as less than. And when you do meet a "good one" that you perhaps work with or go to school with, you start to separate them from their "group." As others have very well stated, Black people have only had about 50 years of desegregation and the ability to become upwardly mobile. Think about that...Only in 1968 were Blacks allowed to buy homes in many areas of this country. And only since 1965 could Blacks vote. And those are just the formal laws. That didn't necessarily change what people did in practice. Its not like Blacks flooded great neighborhoods and started setting themselves up on day 1 after these laws were passed. People still discriminated and came up with other ways to keep them out of the race that White people created and continued to run. And its still happening. Which means that as an entire race, most Blacks are nowhere near having the familial and generational resources and wealth that we tout as the "American Dream."

Imagine having only menial job prospects, poor schools because schools due to low property tax funding, limited housing and abilities to "move on up" and voila - you have hopelessness and a cycle that's very difficult to break. That American Dream isn't for you, because you're told that you will never have it. Look at any depressed culture and you'll see the same thing. But, it's also much easier to see when you have a media that really only points out the criminal behavior of Blacks. When I was growing up, the local news covered this shootings, drug busts, the crime that involved Blacks - blasting their faces all over the TV. That creates over time subliminal messaging that you associate Blacks with crime. And when you live in segregated areas (that price the majority of Blacks or other minorities out of their populations), your only connection to Blacks becomes the criminals you see splattered across the news. And, voila - you've created the fear that engenders the racism that feeds the power structure. This area is not immune to that, despite the diversity.

Last point here. Young, white men have continued to shoot up schools, almost exclusively. White men are the majority of serial killers. Why do we not have rampant fear of White males and discussions about "why they just can't seem to stop killing?" It's because we know that you cannot paint an entire race of people or demographic with the brush of the few who do bad things. We should ask ourselves why we as a country (as a world) do not ascribe the same to Blacks? All races have bad actors, but its a "privilege" to not bear the burden of a few bad actors. That's the system that needs to be dismantled.


That is a ridiculous argument. Please compare the rate of white-committed school shootings and serial killings to the rate of black-committed violence. There isn't even a comparison. I understand and support the first part of your rationalization here, but that last part just waters down your point. It's illogical.


The point of that last piece was to look at an occurrence that can be almost strictly attributed to one specific demographic. Its not about "how many." Its about the fact that when it does happen, its happens almost exclusively by one particular group.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?


White supremacy doesn’t disappear bc you live in a diverse area.
I moved here from the south a few years ago - and I’ve found that DMV folks think that they are NOT racist because they are liberal/progressive and bc the area is diverse. It’s the biggest lie. They are some of the most racist and xenophobic people I have ever met if you truly listen to the way the speak and watch the way they treat people. I think there are a lot “well meaning” racists who “don’t see color” around here.


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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Honest answer. When you keep changing the definition of racist. I know of no right wingers with Dixie Flags in DC.

That’s because they have to hide them in this area. Don’t fool yourself - they are all around us.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.

There's a movie quote: "First you make criminals and then you punish them".

So true. OP, have you heard about “preschool to prison”?
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.


Tolerance works both ways, PP. Chill on name calling the poster that references their belief in God.


DP. Yes, the important thing here isn’t that PP is a religious nut job, it’s that PP uses religion as an excuse for her/his racism.


^^That's YOUR interpretation. Seek to understand, PP, not judge.



PP spelled it out pretty clearly for us.

PP does not think systemic racism exists. Instead, PP blames the fallout of systemic racism on “lack of god” and other “moral failings”. PP is a racist jerk.

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Hmph.

As others have pointed out, the definition of racism is constantly changing to fit whatever the latest dogmatic narrative is. And along with it is the definition of diversity.

We now live in a day where a school that is 50% white and 40% Asian/South Asian (including many of recent immigration heritage) isn't considered diverse.

I grew up in Baltimore so my views on the causes of institutional urban poverty doesn't quite fit the popular narrative these days. I think there's a lot of willful denial and people are latching onto "racism" and changing/expanding the definition to avoid tackling the real problems because it's easier to blame other people rather than yourself for the failures of your own actions. This does not mean there isn't racism or that there haven't been racist actions but I don't buy the argument of a systematic institutional racism being the source of the problem. And the racist inquisition and their enablers fully ignore the full range of human discrimination and biases that affects everyone. Race is just one of many, many ways people judge each other by.
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Anonymous wrote:It's easy. Look at the schools. I've never lived in an area with de facto segregated schools such as Langley, TJ, Discovery Elementary (No Va.) I don't know as much about MD or DC schools but I would have to assume that they are more diverse overall.


Some schools in DC are primarily black. No diversity.

That said, “diversity” is usually a goal for white people, many of whom were raised to think not being racist is being colorblind. They don’t get it. They also want “diversity” for their child’s perceived benefit and it never occurs to them that some other communities might now want diversity at all. The call for diversity in schools is just another feature of white privilege.

I agree. They like the proximity factor. People sometimes use “diversity” as a way of patting themselves on the back. They think that having different people around “proves” that they aren’t racist. And then there is no need for them to do the actual work of anti-racism.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.


Tolerance works both ways, PP. Chill on name calling the poster that references their belief in God.


DP. Yes, the important thing here isn’t that PP is a religious nut job, it’s that PP uses religion as an excuse for her/his racism.


^^That's YOUR interpretation. Seek to understand, PP, not judge.



PP spelled it out pretty clearly for us.

PP does not think systemic racism exists. Instead, PP blames the fallout of systemic racism on “lack of god” and other “moral failings”. PP is a racist jerk.


The PP listed multiple things in their post and you latch on to one component. Why does that bother you so much?
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I think a lot of newer transplants forget the roots and history of DC and the region. We're in the south.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


I always wonder where yall live. I am 50, black, have lived in DC (the city, not the DMV) for almost 20 years and have never been a victim of a crime of any kind -- never mugged, no car break-ins, no home break-ins, nothing. But to hear other people tell it, they are living in an apocalyptic war zone.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



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