How can someone be born and raised in the DC area yet still be racist?

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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.


Well the founders were deists. Not Christian in today's sense. Still, not good enough to have the founders give liberty to enslaved people, women, or native Americans.....
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Except poor people of other races don't commit violent crimes at the rate of black Americans. The numbers aren't even close.

This. And how long are we going to keep blaming slavery for AA poverty? We are at a couple hundred years now. When will any of it start to be their responsibility?


I grew up among poor white folks in the Midwest--and let me tell you, those that came from homes on the shady side of town were certainly committing crimes--domestic violence, robbery, destruction of property. But whites don't go to prison for those things, and Blacks do. This further disrupts their social fabric and holds them down, where the whites are given chance after chance.

I believe in personal responsibility, and some people are just bad seeds, but it's incorrect to say that one race is more prone to violent than the other--one is more criminalized than the other.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.


Freedom and liberty for white male landowners.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.


You are originally from DC? Or maybe VA?
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Residential segregation leads to school segregation. My older DD was often the only AA in her ES and MS gifted/advanced classes in the 1990s and early 200s. She was always the only AA child in her dance and gymnastic classes. There must have been plenty of kids who did not have a lot of experience, positive or negative, with people of different races.
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When you think of a group as more criminally driven, you start to see them on a whole as less than. And when you do meet a "good one" that you perhaps work with or go to school with, you start to separate them from their "group." As others have very well stated, Black people have only had about 50 years of desegregation and the ability to become upwardly mobile. Think about that...Only in 1968 were Blacks allowed to buy homes in many areas of this country. And only since 1965 could Blacks vote. And those are just the formal laws. That didn't necessarily change what people did in practice. Its not like Blacks flooded great neighborhoods and started setting themselves up on day 1 after these laws were passed. People still discriminated and came up with other ways to keep them out of the race that White people created and continued to run. And its still happening. Which means that as an entire race, most Blacks are nowhere near having the familial and generational resources and wealth that we tout as the "American Dream."

Imagine having only menial job prospects, poor schools because schools due to low property tax funding, limited housing and abilities to "move on up" and voila - you have hopelessness and a cycle that's very difficult to break. That American Dream isn't for you, because you're told that you will never have it. Look at any depressed culture and you'll see the same thing. But, it's also much easier to see when you have a media that really only points out the criminal behavior of Blacks. When I was growing up, the local news covered this shootings, drug busts, the crime that involved Blacks - blasting their faces all over the TV. That creates over time subliminal messaging that you associate Blacks with crime. And when you live in segregated areas (that price the majority of Blacks or other minorities out of their populations), your only connection to Blacks becomes the criminals you see splattered across the news. And, voila - you've created the fear that engenders the racism that feeds the power structure. This area is not immune to that, despite the diversity.

Last point here. Young, white men have continued to shoot up schools, almost exclusively. White men are the majority of serial killers. Why do we not have rampant fear of White males and discussions about "why they just can't seem to stop killing?" It's because we know that you cannot paint an entire race of people or demographic with the brush of the few who do bad things. We should ask ourselves why we as a country (as a world) do not ascribe the same to Blacks? All races have bad actors, but its a "privilege" to not bear the burden of a few bad actors. That's the system that needs to be dismantled.
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.
Anonymous
It's easy. Look at the schools. I've never lived in an area with de facto segregated schools such as Langley, TJ, Discovery Elementary (No Va.) I don't know as much about MD or DC schools but I would have to assume that they are more diverse overall.
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Ya'll DC is in the deep south. Virginia was the capitol of the Confederacy. Have you never looked up at Lee Mansion on the hill in Arlington?
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Anonymous wrote:It's easy. Look at the schools. I've never lived in an area with de facto segregated schools such as Langley, TJ, Discovery Elementary (No Va.) I don't know as much about MD or DC schools but I would have to assume that they are more diverse overall.


Some schools in DC are primarily black. No diversity.

That said, “diversity” is usually a goal for white people, many of whom were raised to think not being racist is being colorblind. They don’t get it. They also want “diversity” for their child’s perceived benefit and it never occurs to them that some other communities might now want diversity at all. The call for diversity in schools is just another feature of white privilege.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Except poor people of other races don't commit violent crimes at the rate of black Americans. The numbers aren't even close.

This. And how long are we going to keep blaming slavery for AA poverty? We are at a couple hundred years now. When will any of it start to be their responsibility?


I grew up among poor white folks in the Midwest--and let me tell you, those that came from homes on the shady side of town were certainly committing crimes--domestic violence, robbery, destruction of property. But whites don't go to prison for those things, and Blacks do. This further disrupts their social fabric and holds them down, where the whites are given chance after chance.

I believe in personal responsibility, and some people are just bad seeds, but it's incorrect to say that one race is more prone to violent than the other--one is more criminalized than the other.


How do you figure?
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Anonymous wrote:I would say one would have had plenty of positive and negative interactions with people of all shades, creeds, races in this region.

Honest question, how can someone still have such views when the area is so diverse?



Unfortunate realization: virtually 99% of all crime in DC is committed by youngish black males. I returned here after college fully woke and somewhat strident about it, but over the last many years, I've reached the point where I can't reconcile the progressive dogma with the realty of DC's crime statistics. And I really have no patience left for street criminals and shooters.

I don't think noticing this makes me racist, but I'm sure others disagree.


You aren't wrong to notice aa crime but the problem is that the crime stems from economic inequality stemming from systemic slavery stemming from slavery. So pointing out aa crime comes off racist to some as it does nothing to acknowledge/address/solve the continued issues still existing today- it only victim blames. Yes criminals are victims too- just not always tragic or sympathetic figures. Hard to feel sorry for someone when they rob you/assault you. I know this has turned some of my coworkers very racist- the things they say would NEVER have come out of their mouths before they too were victimized.


Really? So, every or even most economically disadvantaged person commits crime?

Sorry but your theory is flawed.

Crime stems from - in no particular order- bad parenting, lack of God in ones life,poor choices, bad peer group, and being taught that life doesn’t matter.


You can’t be serious.


Today, completely and absolutely serious. And, the lack of God in our public discourse doesn’t help either.


When God is used in public discourse, He's used to oppress. So, no thank you.


Not true, if God is used in His real sense, like our founders did. He is the source of all freedom and liberty.



You are nutty. I am a staunch atheist and so are most people I know. You aren't fooling anyone.


Tolerance works both ways, PP. Chill on name calling the poster that references their belief in God.
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Anonymous wrote:It's easy. Look at the schools. I've never lived in an area with de facto segregated schools such as Langley, TJ, Discovery Elementary (No Va.) I don't know as much about MD or DC schools but I would have to assume that they are more diverse overall.


Some schools in DC are primarily black. No diversity.

That said, “diversity” is usually a goal for white people, many of whom were raised to think not being racist is being colorblind. They don’t get it. They also want “diversity” for their child’s perceived benefit and it never occurs to them that some other communities might now want diversity at all. The call for diversity in schools is just another feature of white privilege.


What?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:When you think of a group as more criminally driven, you start to see them on a whole as less than. And when you do meet a "good one" that you perhaps work with or go to school with, you start to separate them from their "group." As others have very well stated, Black people have only had about 50 years of desegregation and the ability to become upwardly mobile. Think about that...Only in 1968 were Blacks allowed to buy homes in many areas of this country. And only since 1965 could Blacks vote. And those are just the formal laws. That didn't necessarily change what people did in practice. Its not like Blacks flooded great neighborhoods and started setting themselves up on day 1 after these laws were passed. People still discriminated and came up with other ways to keep them out of the race that White people created and continued to run. And its still happening. Which means that as an entire race, most Blacks are nowhere near having the familial and generational resources and wealth that we tout as the "American Dream."

Imagine having only menial job prospects, poor schools because schools due to low property tax funding, limited housing and abilities to "move on up" and voila - you have hopelessness and a cycle that's very difficult to break. That American Dream isn't for you, because you're told that you will never have it. Look at any depressed culture and you'll see the same thing. But, it's also much easier to see when you have a media that really only points out the criminal behavior of Blacks. When I was growing up, the local news covered this shootings, drug busts, the crime that involved Blacks - blasting their faces all over the TV. That creates over time subliminal messaging that you associate Blacks with crime. And when you live in segregated areas (that price the majority of Blacks or other minorities out of their populations), your only connection to Blacks becomes the criminals you see splattered across the news. And, voila - you've created the fear that engenders the racism that feeds the power structure. This area is not immune to that, despite the diversity.

Last point here. Young, white men have continued to shoot up schools, almost exclusively. White men are the majority of serial killers. Why do we not have rampant fear of White males and discussions about "why they just can't seem to stop killing?" It's because we know that you cannot paint an entire race of people or demographic with the brush of the few who do bad things. We should ask ourselves why we as a country (as a world) do not ascribe the same to Blacks? All races have bad actors, but its a "privilege" to not bear the burden of a few bad actors. That's the system that needs to be dismantled.


+1,000,000. Also, specific to DC, I would add that poverty and race are very closely linked. There is not a large community of poor whites here, so the criminality more common in Low income areas is not occurring in white communities here like it would in, say, rural Pennsylvania.
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