This is a blue state bug (for now at least)

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

No. Whitmer hasn’t been extra arbitrary or strict. Ohio has been possibly more restrictive, but you didn’t see LIBERATE OHIO on Trump’s Twitter feed.
Her state exploded, and she did what was needed. They need to stop whining about boats and seeds. It’s not even the time of year for that stuff.
- Ohioan

She was very arbitrary.
Requiring that items within a store that is open remain off-limits for purchase?
Not allowing residents to travel within the state between homes?

Where is the science in any of that?

The only science we have is social distancing and locking down.
Infected people traveling to other locations and spreading infection isn’t a controversial idea. If DeWine had been staring down similar numbers, he would have tightened up even more. It’s the only tool they have.

People going from one home to another home? This is not exactly "other locations."
Then, there is the whole, "You can go kayaking or canoeing but no motor boats." What is that rationale?
And, why cordon off areas in stores that are open?
Yes, it's arbitrary.

She didn't order stores to cordon off areas. She asked stores to be mindful of tight spaces where social distancing wasn't possible. It is snowing in Michigan right now. No one is motor boating. But when they are, that is putting a lot of people into a boat, a tight space - it also usually requires docksmen and other secondary support that is totally excessive right now. A single person on a kayak or two people who live together in a canoe doesn't have impact.

She did. See executive order, item 11 (d) (2):

https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/0,9309,7-387-90499_90705-525182--,00.html

You can get carpet/flooring, furniture, garden centers/plant nurseries, and paint at stores that are smaller than 50,000 square feet. Go support your local hardware store - it's not that hard.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

No. Whitmer hasn’t been extra arbitrary or strict. Ohio has been possibly more restrictive, but you didn’t see LIBERATE OHIO on Trump’s Twitter feed.
Her state exploded, and she did what was needed. They need to stop whining about boats and seeds. It’s not even the time of year for that stuff.
- Ohioan

She was very arbitrary.
Requiring that items within a store that is open remain off-limits for purchase?
Not allowing residents to travel within the state between homes?

Where is the science in any of that?

The only science we have is social distancing and locking down.
Infected people traveling to other locations and spreading infection isn’t a controversial idea. If DeWine had been staring down similar numbers, he would have tightened up even more. It’s the only tool they have.

People going from one home to another home? This is not exactly "other locations."
Then, there is the whole, "You can go kayaking or canoeing but no motor boats." What is that rationale?
And, why cordon off areas in stores that are open?
Yes, it's arbitrary.

She didn't order stores to cordon off areas. She asked stores to be mindful of tight spaces where social distancing wasn't possible. It is snowing in Michigan right now. No one is motor boating. But when they are, that is putting a lot of people into a boat, a tight space - it also usually requires docksmen and other secondary support that is totally excessive right now. A single person on a kayak or two people who live together in a canoe doesn't have impact.

She did. See executive order, item 11 (d) (2):

https://www.michigan.gov/whitmer/0,9309,7-387-90499_90705-525182--,00.html

You can get carpet/flooring, furniture, garden centers/plant nurseries, and paint at stores that are smaller than 50,000 square feet. Go support your local hardware store - it's not that hard.

A lot harder to social distance if everyone takes the advice and tries to pack a local hardware store. Plus, I don't know too many local hardware stores that stock carpet/flooring and furniture.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

No. Whitmer hasn’t been extra arbitrary or strict. Ohio has been possibly more restrictive, but you didn’t see LIBERATE OHIO on Trump’s Twitter feed.
Her state exploded, and she did what was needed. They need to stop whining about boats and seeds. It’s not even the time of year for that stuff.
- Ohioan

She was very arbitrary.
Requiring that items within a store that is open remain off-limits for purchase?
Not allowing residents to travel within the state between homes?

Where is the science in any of that?

The only science we have is social distancing and locking down.
Infected people traveling to other locations and spreading infection isn’t a controversial idea. If DeWine had been staring down similar numbers, he would have tightened up even more. It’s the only tool they have.

People going from one home to another home? This is not exactly "other locations."
Then, there is the whole, "You can go kayaking or canoeing but no motor boats." What is that rationale?
And, why cordon off areas in stores that are open?
Yes, it's arbitrary.

And when you get to your second home, you go the grocery etc...
This shouldn’t be so hard for you to understand.

Now, do the motor boat ban and the cordoning off the items in stores.

Sorry but it’s not that complicated. You can’t take your 20 person pontoon out. No tie ups.
No, she didn’t split hairs about each and every kind of motorized maritime watercraft.
The lady is busy trying To keep idiots from spreading a deadly disease.
Also: it’s cold as balls still. So.... stop whining about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

No. Whitmer hasn’t been extra arbitrary or strict. Ohio has been possibly more restrictive, but you didn’t see LIBERATE OHIO on Trump’s Twitter feed.
Her state exploded, and she did what was needed. They need to stop whining about boats and seeds. It’s not even the time of year for that stuff.
- Ohioan

She was very arbitrary.
Requiring that items within a store that is open remain off-limits for purchase?
Not allowing residents to travel within the state between homes?

Where is the science in any of that?

The only science we have is social distancing and locking down.
Infected people traveling to other locations and spreading infection isn’t a controversial idea. If DeWine had been staring down similar numbers, he would have tightened up even more. It’s the only tool they have.

People going from one home to another home? This is not exactly "other locations."
Then, there is the whole, "You can go kayaking or canoeing but no motor boats." What is that rationale?
And, why cordon off areas in stores that are open?
Yes, it's arbitrary.

Kayak - one person. Canoe - two to three people within three feet apart. Boat - depends on the boat’s occupancy.
An asymptotic person traveling from grandma house to cousins’ house and later to BFF’s house has now exposed how many people PP? Think.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:MI and PA are not solid red.

[b]GA is purple[i].

Dark reddish purple.

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Face it. Whitmer's mandates were arbitrary and lacked common sense.
It's no wonder the citizens objected.

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Anonymous wrote:Face it. Whitmer's mandates were arbitrary and lacked common sense.
It's no wonder the citizens objected.

A few “citizens” objected.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/thehill.com/homenews/state-watch/493678-poll-michigan-residents-favor-whitmer-coronavirus-handling-over-trump%3famp

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maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

I’m lost. Who was it who said “density is the solution to all our problems”?

Lively discussion going on at Greater Greater Washing website about resistance is Vienna VA residents to creating urban density along the already packed Rt 123 corridor. It is a universal argument among urbanization advocates.

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maybe density isn't the solution to all our problems.

I’m lost. Who was it who said “density is the solution to all our problems”?

Look at the Real Estate board, which seems to be an auxiliary to the GGW crowd.

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Anonymous wrote:Face it. Whitmer's mandates were arbitrary and lacked common sense.
It's no wonder the citizens objected.

Just a few idiots backed by billionare Erik Prince and Betsy DeVos. Do you think they have the little people's best interests at heart?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Face it. Whitmer's mandates were arbitrary and lacked common sense.
It's no wonder the citizens objected.

Are Hogan and DeWine's mandates arbitrary and lacking in common sense?

[Anonymous]

Ok, so let's call it a blue state bug.

McConnell is calling this a blue state bailout:

Let's carry the thought through then....if McConnell wants to stop bailing our blue states. Blue states will stop bailing our red states, permanently. This plays into Russia wanting to weaken the United States as a global power. So why the rhetoric? We are all Americans. Blue states have been subsidizing red states for decades and this is where we are. How will the "red states" fare if the multi-state pacts seceed from the US?

CA-OR-WAS as one new "country"
MN-WI-IL-MI-OH as another
MA-CT-NY-NJ-DE-PA-DC-VA as another
TX has always had the right to declare its independance.

That is about 76% of the US GDP.

IF those states are all in pacts among themselves and with each other, it doesn't leave very much for the rest, right?

So sure, let's continue to divide with the rhetoric as Sen McConnell seems to want to do, and as the OP seems to want to do, and let's see where MS/LA/AL/OK/SC all end up. Especially during hurricane and tornado seasons.

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**and with the oil bust, TX, LA and OK will be in dire straits.

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

Based on what? The restrictions in MI are far less than OH or MD. She is getting castigated as a political play by the right wing echo chamber.

This. Thank you.

It is because she is a potential VP candidate

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Anonymous wrote:I would like my point about lionizing Cuomo and Whitmer too early to stand, though. Their actions during the outbreak WILL be scrutinized, and it seems Whitmer's been a smidge more arbitrary about what is and isn't allowed during her states's shutdown (don't get me wrong, there's been some conservatives trying to make her look bad, but there is enough there there.)

Based on what? The restrictions in MI are far less than OH or MD. She is getting castigated as a political play by the right wing echo chamber.

This. Thank you.

It is because she is a potential VP candidate

She's really not a viable choice.
And, her status as a possible pick has nothing to do with criticism over her ridiculously arbitrary decision regarding lock down and her decision to hire Democratic groups to do contact tracing.