All you Mom’s can’t wait to deny custody exchange to Dad’s

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Sloppy seconds ought to really stay out of the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:New wife coming in to bemoan last wife’s “selfishness” should really go pound sand.

Whatever. I’ve seen her in action too many times. She is a useless B.!.T.C.H. Complete waste of space.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the reluctant parent has a good reason to be concerned about the child’s well-being? My ex had boasted that he isn’t social distancing. He didn’t buy any supplies. I sent my child to Dad’s with groceries and wipes. She texted me midday that the WiFi there isn’t working so she couldn’t get anything done. I guess I need to provide a hotspot as well? Certainly can’t expect him to do so. He just wants to avoid losing any overnight stays because he’s afraid that will increase his child support. He paid $100 in March and I sent our child to his house with $150 in groceries and cleaning supplies. I wasn’t a math major, but that doesn’t sound like I’m denying him 50/50 for financial reasons.

Lots of people didn't prepare and buy supplies. We didn't. No big deal. We ordered the basics that we couldn't get at the store online and went to the store to buy them. Paying a lot in child support is a huge hit for many Dad's, especially if they are paying alimony and clothing, activities and health care. Granted there are fathers not paying all that but many are. Its often more than 1/2 their take home.

And there are also plenty of dads ordered to pay child support who don’t pay at all. If they did not want to financially support a child, they shouldn’t have had one. Life is hardly a cake walk for most single moms and you know it. Cut the crap.

It takes two to have a child. He cannot exactly terminate the pregnancy. There are plenty of Dad's who do pay child support and would gladly take full custody but people seem more intent on tearing men down rather than supporting and encoring them.

THIS. My DH would continue to pay bio mom $1400/mo and have his child 100% of the time. It isn't about the money. He just wants to be with his child.

Has he fought for full custody? Because if it is bad for “biomoms” to want full custody of the dad is deemed fit by the courts, why isn’t it bad for your DH to deny the child knowing the mom? You said both were competent.

DH doesn't want to keep his child from bio mom. My point was that he would take on 100% of the child's responsibility and STILL pay bio mom as if she was caring for the child if he had to.

He fought for 50/50 physical custody (they already have joint legal) and the courts kept it at alternating weekends. Judge acknowledged that DH was more than capable of taking care of the child, acknowledged/appreciated his efforts across multiple areas, scolded bio mom for denying visits and not including DH on major decisions (she's changed his schools and a lot of other things without notifying DH), but judge left the schedule as is.

If the judge acknowledged all that and still kept the schedule every other weekend, the judge and your DH know something that you don’t.

Like what?

Maybe you should find out.

My ex was briefly married a second time. His new wife was brainwashed into believing a number of things that sound like what you believe. She even gave him money for a new lawyer. After she filed for divorce, she approached me many times to apologize and ask for my help in her case. I did feel sorry for her. I think some new wives get swept up into the world their DH presents. A world in which he and his children are spotless victims and family court judges are either stupid or evil.

I am the PP and I didn't ask "like what" but as I've said before, I was there through it all. I was at the attorney meetings. I was at trial. I saw all of the discovery. I was at the home visit. The truth and the only truth is that my DH's ex lied her way through two trials and got away with it. DH had all of the documentation and evidence to prove everything she said was a lie, and the judge didn't even go through it all. She acknowledged how great DH was and applauded him for his efforts, but did NOTHING about it. When mom is a well put together, educated professional who carries herself well, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Unless mom is drugged out, severely abusing the child (with evidence), or something else extreme, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Doesn't matter how great dad is. My DH and other black men like him ARE victims of the court system in MANY ways. I hate to make this about race, because I'm not that person, but this is absolutely true in my DH's case. I don't fault you or anyone else for not understanding. You haven't been there and haven't lived this life. You'll never truly get it.

LOL you went to their divorce trial? As the new girlfriend? Okay. Totally normal

LOL you don’t read well, do you? I said they were never married. They had a 1 year relationship before they had their child. Broke up before child was born. Yes, I was at every custody trial as a witness because I was FRIENDS with my now DH before and after bio mom, as were other witnesses.

It’s so sad that people do anything to discredit the truth as I said before, you’ll just never get it.

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LOL you went to their divorce trial? As the new girlfriend? Okay. Totally normal

Of course, she did. She was his AP.

Another entitled person trying to discredit the truth. I was never the AP

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And honestly, even if I hypothetically was the AP, how does that justify the courts treating black men like criminals and not allowing them to be full time fathers? People love to miss the actual point with BS.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the reluctant parent has a good reason to be concerned about the child’s well-being? My ex had boasted that he isn’t social distancing. He didn’t buy any supplies. I sent my child to Dad’s with groceries and wipes. She texted me midday that the WiFi there isn’t working so she couldn’t get anything done. I guess I need to provide a hotspot as well? Certainly can’t expect him to do so. He just wants to avoid losing any overnight stays because he’s afraid that will increase his child support. He paid $100 in March and I sent our child to his house with $150 in groceries and cleaning supplies. I wasn’t a math major, but that doesn’t sound like I’m denying him 50/50 for financial reasons.

Lots of people didn't prepare and buy supplies. We didn't. No big deal. We ordered the basics that we couldn't get at the store online and went to the store to buy them. Paying a lot in child support is a huge hit for many Dad's, especially if they are paying alimony and clothing, activities and health care. Granted there are fathers not paying all that but many are. Its often more than 1/2 their take home.

And there are also plenty of dads ordered to pay child support who don’t pay at all. If they did not want to financially support a child, they shouldn’t have had one. Life is hardly a cake walk for most single moms and you know it. Cut the crap.

I am PP and 100% agree with you. I strongly believe that kids need both their mom and dad, but it’s so sad to see how the courts think otherwise.
It takes two to have a child. He cannot exactly terminate the pregnancy. There are plenty of Dad's who do pay child support and would gladly take full custody but people seem more intent on tearing men down rather than supporting and encoring them.

THIS. My DH would continue to pay bio mom $1400/mo and have his child 100% of the time. It isn't about the money. He just wants to be with his child.

Has he fought for full custody? Because if it is bad for “biomoms” to want full custody of the dad is deemed fit by the courts, why isn’t it bad for your DH to deny the child knowing the mom? You said both were competent.

DH doesn't want to keep his child from bio mom. My point was that he would take on 100% of the child's responsibility and STILL pay bio mom as if she was caring for the child if he had to.

He fought for 50/50 physical custody (they already have joint legal) and the courts kept it at alternating weekends. Judge acknowledged that DH was more than capable of taking care of the child, acknowledged/appreciated his efforts across multiple areas, scolded bio mom for denying visits and not including DH on major decisions (she's changed his schools and a lot of other things without notifying DH), but judge left the schedule as is.

If the judge acknowledged all that and still kept the schedule every other weekend, the judge and your DH know something that you don’t.

Like what?

Maybe you should find out.

My ex was briefly married a second time. His new wife was brainwashed into believing a number of things that sound like what you believe. She even gave him money for a new lawyer. After she filed for divorce, she approached me many times to apologize and ask for my help in her case. I did feel sorry for her. I think some new wives get swept up into the world their DH presents. A world in which he and his children are spotless victims and family court judges are either stupid or evil.

I am the PP and I didn't ask "like what" but as I've said before, I was there through it all. I was at the attorney meetings. I was at trial. I saw all of the discovery. I was at the home visit. The truth and the only truth is that my DH's ex lied her way through two trials and got away with it. DH had all of the documentation and evidence to prove everything she said was a lie, and the judge didn't even go through it all. She acknowledged how great DH was and applauded him for his efforts, but did NOTHING about it. When mom is a well put together, educated professional who carries herself well, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Unless mom is drugged out, severely abusing the child (with evidence), or something else extreme, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Doesn't matter how great dad is. My DH and other black men like him ARE victims of the court system in MANY ways. I hate to make this about race, because I'm not that person, but this is absolutely true in my DH's case. I don't fault you or anyone else for not understanding. You haven't been there and haven't lived this life. You'll never truly get it.

Even when the mom's are abusing the kids it doesn't matter. My husband's ex abused her boyfriend's kids and they were removed from the home, but not my husband's kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Sloppy seconds ought to really stay out of the thread.

Those who haven’t a clue as to what they’re talking about ought to really stay out of the thread.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe the reluctant parent has a good reason to be concerned about the child’s well-being? My ex had boasted that he isn’t social distancing. He didn’t buy any supplies. I sent my child to Dad’s with groceries and wipes. She texted me midday that the WiFi there isn’t working so she couldn’t get anything done. I guess I need to provide a hotspot as well? Certainly can’t expect him to do so. He just wants to avoid losing any overnight stays because he’s afraid that will increase his child support. He paid $100 in March and I sent our child to his house with $150 in groceries and cleaning supplies. I wasn’t a math major, but that doesn’t sound like I’m denying him 50/50 for financial reasons.

Lots of people didn't prepare and buy supplies. We didn't. No big deal. We ordered the basics that we couldn't get at the store online and went to the store to buy them. Paying a lot in child support is a huge hit for many Dad's, especially if they are paying alimony and clothing, activities and health care. Granted there are fathers not paying all that but many are. Its often more than 1/2 their take home.

And there are also plenty of dads ordered to pay child support who don’t pay at all. If they did not want to financially support a child, they shouldn’t have had one. Life is hardly a cake walk for most single moms and you know it. Cut the crap.

It takes two to have a child. He cannot exactly terminate the pregnancy. There are plenty of Dad's who do pay child support and would gladly take full custody but people seem more intent on tearing men down rather than supporting and encoring them.

THIS. My DH would continue to pay bio mom $1400/mo and have his child 100% of the time. It isn't about the money. He just wants to be with his child.

Has he fought for full custody? Because if it is bad for “biomoms” to want full custody of the dad is deemed fit by the courts, why isn’t it bad for your DH to deny the child knowing the mom? You said both were competent.

DH doesn't want to keep his child from bio mom. My point was that he would take on 100% of the child's responsibility and STILL pay bio mom as if she was caring for the child if he had to.

He fought for 50/50 physical custody (they already have joint legal) and the courts kept it at alternating weekends. Judge acknowledged that DH was more than capable of taking care of the child, acknowledged/appreciated his efforts across multiple areas, scolded bio mom for denying visits and not including DH on major decisions (she's changed his schools and a lot of other things without notifying DH), but judge left the schedule as is.

If the judge acknowledged all that and still kept the schedule every other weekend, the judge and your DH know something that you don’t.

Like what?

Maybe you should find out.

My ex was briefly married a second time. His new wife was brainwashed into believing a number of things that sound like what you believe. She even gave him money for a new lawyer. After she filed for divorce, she approached me many times to apologize and ask for my help in her case. I did feel sorry for her. I think some new wives get swept up into the world their DH presents. A world in which he and his children are spotless victims and family court judges are either stupid or evil.

I am the PP and I didn't ask "like what" but as I've said before, I was there through it all. I was at the attorney meetings. I was at trial. I saw all of the discovery. I was at the home visit. The truth and the only truth is that my DH's ex lied her way through two trials and got away with it. DH had all of the documentation and evidence to prove everything she said was a lie, and the judge didn't even go through it all. She acknowledged how great DH was and applauded him for his efforts, but did NOTHING about it. When mom is a well put together, educated professional who carries herself well, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Unless mom is drugged out, severely abusing the child (with evidence), or something else extreme, courts prefer the child to be with mom. Doesn't matter how great dad is. My DH and other black men like him ARE victims of the court system in MANY ways. I hate to make this about race, because I'm not that person, but this is absolutely true in my DH's case. I don't fault you or anyone else for not understanding. You haven't been there and haven't lived this life. You'll never truly get it.

Even when the mom's are abusing the kids it doesn't matter. My husband's ex abused her boyfriend's kids and they were removed from the home, but not my husband's kids.

I am PP and 100% agree with you. I strongly believe that kids need both their mom and dad, but it’s so sad to see how the courts think otherwise.

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Anonymous wrote:And honestly, even if I hypothetically was the AP, how does that justify the courts treating black men like criminals and not allowing them to be full time fathers? People love to miss the actual point with BS.

White fathers don’t do much better.

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Anonymous wrote:Sloppy seconds ought to really stay out of the thread.

I got real lucky with the sloppy seconds. You are a mean bitter person. My husbands ex and the kids would have been much better off if she stayed.

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Anonymous wrote:And honestly, even if I hypothetically was the AP, how does that justify the courts treating black men like criminals and not allowing them to be full time fathers? People love to miss the actual point with BS.

White fathers don’t do much better.

I’m PP and I’m sorry to hear this. I speak from my own experience but it doesn’t surprise me. It’s heartbreaking to see a father do any and everything to be involved with his child and everyone says no.

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Anonymous wrote:Sloppy seconds ought to really stay out of the thread.

I got real lucky with the sloppy seconds. You are a mean bitter person. My husbands ex and the kids would have been much better off if she stayed.

One man’s trash is another’s treasure. I’m sure you regard him as a prize, but she didn’t. There are a lot of interpretations of “better off”. I trust the ex-wives who left over the second wives who think their DH is perfect.
And I’m a happily married second wife.

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LOL you don’t read well, do you? I said they were never married. They had a 1 year relationship before they had their child. Broke up before child was born. Yes, I was at every custody trial as a witness because I was FRIENDS with my now DH before and after bio mom, as were other witnesses.

It’s so sad that people do anything to discredit the truth as I said before, you’ll just never get it.

Your sad story is so typical, there are ‘90s jams about it.

Listen, girl
Who do you think I am?
Don't you know that he was my man?
But I chose to let him go
So why do you act like I still care about him?
[/b]Looking at me like I'm hurt
When I'm the one who said I didn't want it to work
Don't you forget I had him first?
What you thinkin'?
Stop blamin' me
He wasn't man enough for me
If you don't know, now here's the chance
I've already had your man
Do you wonder just where he's been, yeah?
Not be worried about him
Now it's time you know the truth
I think he's just the man for you
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
Listen, girl
Didn't he tell you the truth?
If not then, why don't you ask him?
Then maybe you can be more into him
Instead of worrying about me
And hopefully you won't find
All the reasons why his love didn't count
And why we couldn't work it out
What you thinkin'?
Stop blamin' me
He wasn't man enough for me
If you don't know, now here's the chance
I've already had your man
Do you wonder just where he's been, yeah?
Not be worried about him
Now it's time you know the truth
I think he's just the man for you
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
Oh yeah
So many reasons why our love is through, yeah
What makes you think he'll be good to you, no
It makes no sense 'cause he will never change
Girl, you better recognize the game, oh yeah
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But [b]you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:[
LOL you don’t read well, do you? I said they were never married. They had a 1 year relationship before they had their child. Broke up before child was born. Yes, I was at every custody trial as a witness because I was FRIENDS with my now DH before and after bio mom, as were other witnesses.

It’s so sad that people do anything to discredit the truth as I said before, you’ll just never get it.

Your sad story is so typical, there are ‘90s jams about it.

Listen, girl
Who do you think I am?
Don't you know that he was my man?
But I chose to let him go
So why do you act like I still care about him?
[/b]Looking at me like I'm hurt
When I'm the one who said I didn't want it to work
Don't you forget I had him first?
What you thinkin'?
Stop blamin' me
He wasn't man enough for me
If you don't know, now here's the chance
I've already had your man
Do you wonder just where he's been, yeah?
Not be worried about him
Now it's time you know the truth
I think he's just the man for you
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
Listen, girl
Didn't he tell you the truth?
If not then, why don't you ask him?
Then maybe you can be more into him
Instead of worrying about me
And hopefully you won't find
All the reasons why his love didn't count
And why we couldn't work it out
What you thinkin'?
Stop blamin' me
He wasn't man enough for me
If you don't know, now here's the chance
I've already had your man
Do you wonder just where he's been, yeah?
Not be worried about him
Now it's time you know the truth
I think he's just the man for you
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
Oh yeah
So many reasons why our love is through, yeah
What makes you think he'll be good to you, no
It makes no sense 'cause he will never change
Girl, you better recognize the game, oh yeah
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me
What are you thinking?
Did you know about us back then?
Do you know I dumped your husband, girlfriend?
I'm not thinking 'bout him
But [b]you married him
Do you know I made him leave?
Do you know he begged to stay with me?
He wasn't man enough for me

You try so hard to discredit our truth as if you know us! Why do you care so much? You are comical

[Anonymous]

You really went out of your way to research and copy/paste Toni lyrics I know we’re all shut in but I’d hope you’d spend your efforts on more important things in your own life lol