Michael Osterholm Ph.D., M.P.H. says washing hands and wipes are bogus — the AIR has this virus

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Anonymous wrote:Except this is not an airborne virus. try again OP.

Exactly. The virus can theoretically be in the air in an aerodol form, but that doesn't happen when a person exhales or coughs. Aerosolized virus happens in the hospital under certail machine conditions.

When people cough, they produce DROPLETS that have the virus, but they are bigger and have more weight, and therefore THE DROPLETS WITH VIRUS DO NOT STAY IN THE AIR! They fall out of the air and onto surfaces. That's why going outside for a walk is perfectly fine. You don't need to be afraid that the virus is hanging out in the air for three hours. It is NOT.

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Anonymous wrote:I think this based on how easily people seem to get it.

One example is the NBA basketball player who gave it to a kid while signing autographs.

Did the NBA player sneeze? Cough? How could it be transmitted in the relatively short time of giving an autograph?

Presumably he touched whatever he autographed?

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Anonymous wrote:Except this is not an airborne virus. try again OP.

Exactly. The virus can theoretically be in the air in an aerodol form, but that doesn't happen when a person exhales or coughs. Aerosolized virus happens in the hospital under certail machine conditions.

When people cough, they produce DROPLETS that have the virus, but they are bigger and have more weight, and therefore THE DROPLETS WITH VIRUS DO NOT STAY IN THE AIR! They fall out of the air and onto surfaces. That's why going outside for a walk is perfectly fine. You don't need to be afraid that the virus is hanging out in the air for three hours. It is NOT.

If it was transmissible in air, everyone at CPAC would be testing positive.

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https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.livescience.com/amp/coronavirus-can-spread-as-an-aerosol.html

Read the details. You don't need to fear going outside or being with people if there is distancing.

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

He's making that up. Your lungs don't create aerosolized virus particles.

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

He's making that up. Your lungs don't create aerosolized virus particles.

Wait random internet person is claiming a PhD MPH is making things up? Why would he do that? He is a chaired prof. He would destroy his career for making things up. Are you telling me you know more because Steve Doocy told you otherwise?

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

I'm not a virologist but it seems totally obvious to me that cruise ship passengers get it when quarantined because they are eating food prepared by asymptomatic carriers, and that senior center residents get it because care givers are going from room to room without being aware that they are spreading it because they didn't have any reason to expect it to be in the center (or because they are themselves sick but don't realize it yet). In most of these senior centers, the caregivers have to see a LOT of patients in a day. And most residents are going to have pretty direct contact with probably a dozen people a day (the CNA that gives them a bath and changes their clothes; the RN that checks on them; maybe a MD; often a physical therapist or nutrtionist; several people from the kitchen that prepare their food; the folks that work in the laundry washing their clothes, etc.) Like the cruise ships, if one staff member is sick and doesn't realize it, they can spread it to dozens of people in one day.

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

He's making that up. Your lungs don't create aerosolized virus particles.

Wait random internet person is claiming a PhD MPH is making things up? Why would he do that? He is a chaired prof. He would destroy his career for making things up. Are you telling me you know more because Steve Doocy told you otherwise?

Multiple other medical doctors and epidemiologists say he's wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:He also says only N95-tier masks actually block out this virus. Most of the masks people are using are not cleansing the air.

Thank god I bought all this stuff when Trump was elected. Everyone called me crazy. They may still call me crazy but I didn’t have to stockpile. We already had what we needed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Jeff can you take this post down?

3 weeks later, we now know this *is* in fact airborne and it's spreading via coughing, talking & breathing.

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Anonymous wrote:So yes it will be in the air, but the droplets don't sit there in a cloud waiting for you to walk into it. Once it is coughed or sneezed or breathed out it will begin to dissipate as gasses naturally move from areas of higher concentration to areas of lower concentration. You need a certain amount of exposure to get it so unless you breathe in what someone just breathed out you will be fine. Being outside in the fresh air is probably one of the best things you can do for yourself right now. How lucky we are to have such marvelous weather.

Dr. Osterholm said cruise ships get it when quarantined because the virus starts circling through the boat's air system -- same is true for senior centers?

He's making that up. Your lungs don't create aerosolized virus particles.

Wait random internet person is claiming a PhD MPH is making things up? Why would he do that? He is a chaired prof. He would destroy his career for making things up. Are you telling me you know more because Steve Doocy told you otherwise?

Multiple other medical doctors and epidemiologists say he's wrong.

This didn't age well, did it?

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Weirdo.

[Anonymous]

I though even non-scientists would know that it was in the air?

These kinds of illnesses have been happening when seasons change. Right now the world is hotter and wetter...conditions that will result in a blooming of microbes of all sorts.

Yes, it is in the air. But hygiene practices like washing hands and wearing masks and not congregating together - lowers the VIRUS LOAD in your body. Also prevents CO-INFECTIONS with other stuff like eColi, Listeria, etc etc etc.

Which means that your wonderful body will fight and recover if it is a small skirmish instead of a full fledged WWIII

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I though even non-scientists would know that it was in the air?

These kinds of illnesses have been happening when seasons change. Right now the world is hotter and wetter...conditions that will result in a blooming of microbes of all sorts.

Yes, it is in the air. But hygiene practices like washing hands and wearing masks and not congregating together - lowers the VIRUS LOAD in your body. Also prevents CO-INFECTIONS with other stuff like eColi, Listeria, etc etc etc.

Which means that your wonderful body will fight and recover if it is a small skirmish instead of a full fledged WWIII

Omg stop. It was false info lies they fed us because there aren't any masks.